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hey, just got myself my first mac, a macbook pro
now i want to get msn set up, i found a msn for the mac, downloaded it, however
its not working, says that the service is not available to me or im not connected to the internet... which i am.
it does however let me log onto one of those web msn messengers, however this doesnt let you use half the features, webcams etc.

help appreciated
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Do you use MSN as your Internet service provider?
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no i dont, that shouldnt matter should it?
when i say msn, it might not be msn messenger, is it now known as windows messenger?
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I'm just wondering why you want to put MSN on your Mac in the first place.

If you just want to be able to chat with MSN users (Windows Messenger, whatever it's called), I highly recommend Adium.
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that looks perfect mate, just downloading it now, see what it like
thanks

if anyone nows why msn saying it cant open tho, would still like to hear
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hmm ok that adium is the same story as msn, its not able to connect....
help?
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Hmmm, if Adium can't connect, then it sounds like a problem with your Internet connection, not the software.

Goto your System Preferences and click on Network. Depending on how you're connecting (ethernet or wireless), check to make sure the the little dot next to your connection is green. If it's yellow or red, your network settings are probably incorrect.
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had a look there, the light is green next to my airport
and it still not connecting...
im connecting through wireless
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Can you access web sites?
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yes the rest of the internet is fine, im replying on my laptop, and had no other trouble woth any other websites...
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Hmmm, can you post the error message you're getting when you try to connect using Adium? My first thought is that you might need to forward the port on your wireless router (assuming that you're using one).
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spork's right, and if not port forwarding, at least configure your router to let IM app communication through. The admin interface for most routers is pretty straight-forward in that regard.
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ok you guys have lost me, can you simplify? :P
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Post 3+ Months Ago

I'm assuming you're using a wireless router at home. If this is the case, open a web browser and try navigating to either 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1.

You need to find the settings for Port Forwarding and add your IM service to the list.
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yes im using a wireless router, i tried copy/pasting those into firefox but nothing came up, am i doing something wrong?
cheers :D
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OK, let's see if we can find out the address of your router:

Go to your Start Menu and click "Run..."
Type in "cmd" without the quotes and press enter.

At the command prompt, type "ipconfig" without the quotes.

This will bring up some information about your connection. The IP address given for "Default Gateway" is usually the IP of your router in a basic home network setup. Try that address in your web browser and let me know if it worked or not.
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im using a mac remember mate, whats the equivelent to run on a mac?
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Oh whoops :oops:

My mind is gone today.

Open the Terminal application and type
Code: [ Select ]
ifconfig | grep "inet "


This should show you your IP address. The one you want to use is whatever your IP is, but replace the last series of digits with 1.
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ok i got into my wireless in my browser, now what?
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Ah, there we go.

Try navigating to 192.168.2.1 or 192.168.2.0
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edited post above ^^ now what?
thanks
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Did it ask you for a username/password, or did you get right in?
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it asked for my password then it let me in
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Excellent. What brand of router is it?

Anyways, you'll want to find the area where it lets you do Port Forwarding. You need to find out what port Adium uses for MSN and make sure that that port is forwarded to your computer's IP address.

When I get home tonight I can help you with this if you need it. I don't have my PowerBook handy right now so I can't walk you through this part.
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its a belkin router, ok il have a look for that, if i cant work it out how many hours roughly untill your home, i see you are from ny, im in the uk
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I don't get out of work for another hour, and then I have a lot to do tonight, so it might not be for 4 or 5 hours.

We'll pick up tomorrow if I can't get to it tonight.
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hmmmm ok cant see anything about port forwarding, dont really want to mess to much incase i screw my settings up..
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ok that will be great, really do appreciate your help mate :)
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I believe the port you'll want to forward is 1863. I think the Belkin configuration might call the setting "Virtual Servers" instead of port forwarding.

This screenshot might help, assuming you're using the same router firmware...
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spork wrote:
I believe the port you'll want to forward is 1863. I think the Belkin configuration might call the setting "Virtual Servers" instead of port forwarding.

This screenshot might help, assuming you're using the same router firmware...


No, that picture will not help. It's a 403 Forbidden
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as he said, cant see screenshot
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Odd, was working last night.
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nope deffinatly aint workin, says its forbidden...
i found the virtual servers however, what do i do in there?
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Oh, good.

Basically, you want to forward port 1863 to your computer's IP address. Your computer's IP is the one that comes up when you run the ifconfig command I showed you earlier in this thread (you can also find out your IP by going to System Preferences > Network > Airport > Configure).

Use 1863 for the starting and ending port.
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grr still cant work out what im ment to do,
ok the page i got to fill out is as follows
No. | descrption | protocol type | lan port | public port | enable
1 | (text box) | choose either | (text box)| (text box) | (check box)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tcp
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . udp
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tcp & udp
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Description: MSN Messenger (Adium)
Choose Either: TCP & UDP
LAN Port: 1863
Public Port: 1863
Enable: yes (checked)
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oh there was one more box, it says Lan Ip address, then under it has my ipm address, then under that has a text box, anything go in here?
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it only letting me put three digits in that field, is that the 3 digits i replaced at the end of my ip address?
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ok, obviously not as it still comes up lan ip adress error
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Can you post a screenshot of the page you're doing all this on?
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i was going to do that then realised i dont know how to ss on a mac :P
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Apple Key + Shift + 3

The file gets saved to your desktop as a PNG.
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ah cheers :D
heres the shot
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Alrighty.

The LAN IP Address should be the last digits of your network IP address. This is the address that comes up when you run the following in a Terminal:
Code: [ Select ]
ifconfig | grep "inet 192"

For example, if I were doing this, I run the command and get this:
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inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255

In my case, I would enter 26 as my LAN IP Address.

For description, just put "Adium/MSN" or something along those lines.

For Protocol Type, select TCP + UDP.

Enter 1863 for the LAN Port and the Public Port.

Select Enabled.

If none of this gets you anywhere, please post a screenshot of the error that Adium is giving you when you try to connect.
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Also check out portforward.com. Here is the guide for a random Belkin router I selected from the list (don't know which one you've got, exactly), but if it doesn't work for you, you can find the guide for your one.

http://urltea.com/1714

[Edit]ed to remove ugly long URL.
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We already know you can't use IM, mtracerz. =) More helpful, probably, would be views of your router's port forwarding configuration so that someone can help you figure out how to fix it.
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justG wrote:
We already know you can't use IM, mtracerz. =) More helpful, probably, would be views of your router's port forwarding configuration so that someone can help you figure out how to fix it.

Please read the full topic before replying; I asked him to post that screenshot. We've been through port forwarding, it is not the problem in this situation.
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so does that ss help you any spork? im stumped like... rather annoying :(
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Yeah, I'm trying to think what could be the problem. I'm a bit baffled at this point. We'll have to pick it up during the week because I'm leaving in a few minutes and won't be here the rest of the night.
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spork wrote:
Please read the full topic before replying; I asked him to post that screenshot. We've been through port forwarding, it is not the problem in this situation.

Actually I did, but missed the line where you made that request. And by the way, it's certainly not clear from the conversation thus far that port forwarding might not still be the problem. But I'll leave it in your obviously more capable hands.

Apologies, mtracerz, and good luck.
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No need to take things personally, justG... I wasn't attacking you.
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Hi mtracerz, i have the same problem, Adium don't connect.
I think that port forwarding and router configuration has nothing to do with the problem.
In my macbook i'm running vmware with windows XP, and MSN connects on windows XP !
The same think happends with google Earth on MacOS: google earth don't connect to google server.
On XP google Earth connects and works fine.
I also turned my mac firewall off and the problem continues.

WHY ? port forwarding.... NO, router configuration ... NO, mac firewall turned on .... NO ....

:(


Spork and justG: any ideia ?



ps: i have Ubuntu in a virtual machine in vmware on macbook too, i use aMsn in ubuntu and it works too... aMsn in my mac doesn't work.


Thanks !

-sorry for the bad english ;)
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maybe instead of disabling your firewall, open port 1863 for msn to connect through?

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