Fibre Optic

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grammar ?? this is an art forum not a grammar contest .
and since its a art forum why dont u make some art that is actualy any good ?
and as for my sallary thats what i make working for a company minus the fees i recive in other contracts etc etc .
plus the english currency is diffrent than yours so to compare them both is silly.
as for grammar well ill learn ta use grammer when you learn ta draw and do art if thats what you wanta call it
and as for unflux the best ?
well hes good but ive seen better . ie fusion
but do me a favour .. go have your have your lips removed from his ass its not nice ta suck butt

sorry i had ta be so to the point but idiots like you who cant do good art then comment about others work which is alot better than yours just get my head going .
but like i said i dont have ta explain myself to you .
you will come to nothink with your attitude and your art ?
well that *plum* speaks for itself.
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amen
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I am sorry, I said I was done, but I lied, I can not tolerate these words you have so blatantly put in front of me. First off, notice I nicely translated your English pounds into United States dollars, making them on the same level. Secondly this isn't a grammar contest you are right, but if you are such a man, because you can stand up for fusion, then tell me this, why does your writing look like an adolescents? Third and finally unless you continue your little tantrum I will state it again:

How many wine testers make their own wine?

I apologize I turned Jekyll into Hyde; I hope it doesn't happen again.
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the man of quotes and catchphrases strikes again
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JORDO wrote:
this is an art forum not a grammar contest


Yes, this is an art forum and art is all about personal opinion. There is no way to prove that someone's art is better than someone else's. I personally dislike this particular image that Fusion designed. Why bother listening to my opinion, though? Some will love it, some will hate it. Fusion, you posted your image in order to get opinions, did you not? Well, you got exactly what you asked for, you just didn't like them.
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friend foe enemy mrs butt suck what ever your name .
first of all just comparing currency is thick.
if i was american doing the job i do now i wouldnt be on 75,000 usd
id be on a lot more probaly double that maybe more even.
but see im english and the english economy for what i do isnt as rewarding as it is in america.
so before you start going into rates of pay actualy get your facts straight.
and my writing is what like an adolescents ?
well my writing and your art our on the same level, maybe when i get my writing sorted your art might look like summet worth showing but i doubt it .
and beleave me if u want a slanging match about art and all the *plum* you think you can design then cool im up all night .
oh and to point out that im stickin up for fusion ? well ive never met the guy but his work speaks for itself .when has he said your work was off or not right etc etc ?
well someone needs to tell you .
and dont comment on me backin people up when your practicly sleeping with unflux .
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yeah i posted it for opinions.. constructive criticism would do fine. but not when someone says its common and unorignial and easy to do
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thanx again.
i agree, you cannot compare GBP and USD...
as us english fools work jus as hard for less, but ahh well, thats for a different forum.
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First off I do not want anybody taking what I am saying personally. This is just my opinion.

I would have to say Im slightly on Fusion and JORDO's side with this post. There are so many people on this planet that it is hard to be completely original these days, and no matter what you create, there will be someone who says well thats just not original because "so and so" already made something like that. When I created bigwebmaster.com it seemed like many said to me, "great another script directory, like we do not already have enough of those out there". But to me my site is unique and I am glad I created it and am very proud of my work. I really like Fusion's work too, and I think he has much potential. I would say that he has a simliar style to many other artists out there, but just because his style is similiar, doesn't mean his work isn't unique.

No offense to Unflux, but to me his style doesn't really seem that original either. He definetely isn't the best out there either (in my opinion) but I commend him for always trying to improve himself to make better work. I have seen much work out there similiar to his. There is nothing wrong with that though, everybody is learning and trying to become better at what they do and usually people will try to base their style off of other artwork/designs that intrigue them. When he creates work though, there is never anything out there exactly like that, so i would still say its unique. But, as far as his style, I would say its definetely not unique.

Now even if some artwork is original, that does not mean everybody will like it. I gurantee you will find people who dislike it, and you may find others who enjoy it. Everybody has different tastes and I would try not to take any criticism personally.

Now as far as the Fibre Optic creation by Fusion, I would have to say I really do not care for it. I do like much of the work Fusion has done, but for some reason I do not care for this piece.

As far as personal attacks against each other, you guys really are not resolving much.
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yeah fusion glad someone relised it.
oh and b_heyer 24 000 usd a year ?? what you selling ? your ass
cos it sure as hell isnt your art .

fusion you seem to be posting fast my freind if your online drop me a message im currently on my msn if you would like that chat ? .

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thanx for the kudos big web. appreciate that. i know that were getting nowhere with this, but i just want to prove that abstract art doesnt have to be original to be good. i mean you look at all the abstract on dev art, its jus amazing, and i would love to have a few of them in a nice frame in my room.. really.
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sorry i forgot to say summet
bigwebmaster . i think your spot on there and im sorry not everyone agrees and i have resulted in what i said but i feel so many people need to be told and some times its not clean .
i look at everyones work and i admire for there efforts but for people to realy make comments that dont stand well comparing there own work.
well that gets my guts goin.
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oh and b_heyer 24 000 usd a year ?? what you selling ? your ass


I apologize again, but these words can not go unspoken for. I am currently employed as a webdesigner, making 15 dollars an hour. Also take note I said "has the ability to" which means I currently am not working full time, 40 week years. Also why must you keep commenting on my nonexistant art? I already stated that I do not take much interest in the creation of graphic design.
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and how does one earn 15 an hour, when im losing 15 an hour.. bah
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well ill finish this off by posting another pic lol.
http://www.fusion-netwerx.com/testing/images/carbon.jpg
dont bother postin if your gonna flame :lol:
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web design ?
then why u in digital art forum post given un wanted comments ?
if your not into gfx design dont comment on it cos u know sod all .
and good for you on your wage thats great realy glad at your age you can earn that but dont think that makes you great at what you do.
you have been knocked down a step or two in this post and im glad there was some comments because it gave people the chance to show the truth .
at the end of the day i couldnt care what you earned i couldnt care that i earn what i do im not money driven but its nice to see my work is praised by my company . just like fusions work should be praised .
hell maybe if you stop bitching at peoples work and showed us yours id praise that stuff too.
but for now ......
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i would love to have a few of them in a nice frame in my room..


Lol sorry I hadda start this one off with a quote because it fit so nicely. Now that is very cool, it has a great contrast between darks and lights, and keeps the interest flowing.
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well thanks :)
are you referring to the carbon pic?
and about that quote.. its true, i would love so many of them in my room, if i had enough money, there would be no paint left on my wall, it would be full of dev art digital pics, im a true fan of art, i love it... thats all :oops:
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Yes the carbon one.
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Everyone - let's cut out the little jabs and personal attacks. It's really
not doing anything but making longer posts and taking up bandwidth.

Fusion - you completely missed what I was trying to say. now i have to
write my explanation and i'm dreading it.

Obviously you thought it was very good, and wanted your ego stroked a
bit. If your work is good, and I have told you when I thought i was,
then I would say so. In this particular case, it isn't IMO.

I wasn't trying to start any arguments or tantrums, I was speaking the
truth of my opinion. What was said earlier is true. You put your work on
a public forum for opinion. I'm a professional designer, and I gave you
my opinion. Instead of taking what I said as criticism, you took it as a
personal attack and a bunch of flaming went down. That was clearly not
my intention.

Now let me explain why I said that it was unoriginal...
I have seen and also created those blobs countless times. There isn't
anything orginal, claimed to be art or not, about following a tutorial.
There are tons of free tutorials that teach you exactly how to make what
you made.

b_heyer has a right to his own opinion, just like you and Jordo do. If he
thinks I'm the best, then so be it. I don't really care in the grand
scheme of things. I'm working on client sites, and getting paid to do so,
and their opinion of me and my work is what matters most to me. While
I appreciate the support, I don't relish in it for a second. I know there's
tons of better designers out there, and all I can do is try to achieve that
level of success.

I do the artwork for fun, not for critique. If someone didn't like it, I'd
want to know that, and then to know why. I would then use that as
motivation to do my next one better, not sit back argue my points as to
why I think it is really good.

Defending my own work and my own site is old-hat, and bores me. I
don't think and never have thought, that my site looks or resembles
anything about 2a, other than I made it in flash and so did they. Yes, I
will admit that I was influenced by their work. But any designer would
tell you that the similarities are very minimal.

After all, I emailed the 2a crew for their opinion on my site, asking for
them to tell me whether or not it was too close to theirs. Shane told me
flat out that it didn't remind them of 2a one bit. That's good enough for
me, and i pass that along to anyone who questions it.

Personally, I hate my site now. It's been up for 1.5yrs and I CANNOT
WAIT to change it. I have so many new things I want to do, and
different styles as well. I despise looking at my site any more TBH.

Yes, I am a moderator, but regardless of that, I would always post my
true opinion of something. What good is it for you to hear "looks good"
or "wow, great!" every time you posted a work? i'll tell you = NONE

You will never get better, or expand your horizons when you become
complacent and satisfied with your skills and style.

I'm sorry you took my post and opinion personally. I'm not trying to
make enemies or cause any trouble. I want everyone here to work to
getting better and becoming better webmasters or whatever it is they do.

Being honest is the first step.
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Thank you for ending this Unflux, it had gotten completly out of hand.

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