I luv Terragen! New wallpaper, anyone?

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Took about 16 hours to do this, but if anyone would like it for a wallpaper, feel free.

http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/reef9_1280x960.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/reef9_1024x768.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/reef9_800x600.jpg

(Sorry I couldn't do any resolutions higher than 1280x960 -- I haven't registered the program yet and that's the max res until I do. And I will. I love this program!)
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the end of the earth is near! :shock:

looks cool atno. I should give that proggy a try someday. Looks fun! :D
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What's it cost to register Terragen these days?
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I seem to remember it's roughly $80 US...
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It is fun UNFLUX -- if nothing else -- just something different to do -- digitally.

//It is freeware - http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/

although to take advantage of the extra options registration is necesary.
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Ooooh the advanced anti-aliasing is a registered-only feature?

Just you wait, you think you're impressed now? :mrgreen:
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ATNO/TW wrote:
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Took about 16 hours to do this, but if anyone would like it for a wallpaper,



its great ANTO/TW
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Thanks BlueHat
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WOW,Atno,

That is Awesome,

I wish i could do things like what you did.

Thankyou for sharing.

Its also my Background :P

If you dont mind.

Thankyou.

David. :D
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Thanks David.

The program is free if you want to try your hand at it:
http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/
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i think i might have to give this a go :D
how does it work?...
you make a 3d world?...
then render it...

just curious...
and again
well dont ATNO, very nice work!
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very nice....is it hard to use?
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It's relatively easy to use vladracc... but I'm sure you saw my post...it took close to 16 hours to render that photo the way it appears now (much depends on your processor and RAM). I had to play with atmosphere, lighting, clouds, shadows, water and surface map settings before I got it the way I wanted it to look (also the zoom..that's why the water seems to look a bit cut off --like "the end of the world" as UNFLUX said) --but best I could do to get the fulll picture like I wanted. . The cool part about the program is that you can get fairly nice renderings on the first try, but to do an outstanding look takes some study and experimentation like anything else.
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Wow 16 hours...that is pretty intesive. What where the specks on the computer that you used to render that?

I will have to check it out.
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Looks good, don't suppose you have a 1600x1200 of it?
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Vladdrac - Intel P4 2.6Ghz 512MB

ShEDeViL - unfortunately, I haven't the spare change to register it yet, and the free version is limited to1280x960 max. Later, I'll be able to make higher res images, but not for now.
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Yeah that software is cool. I came up with this on the fly. I love how you can set the memory buffer in the rendering settings. I am going to have to check out some tutorials for this software
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Very nice! Yep -- lot's of tutes out there. Here's a good resource to get you going

http://www.terrasource.net/#register
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well, i mean, i will register it if i like it
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How come it took you 16 hours to render that? I get the highest quality and biggest size image to render in like less than a half hour...and my specs are about the same as yours
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It depends on the complexity of the scene...

I've had some 3200x2400 images render in only an hour, and I've had smoe 640x480 mini-images take 2 days to render :)
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Exactly Axe...

This is the 2nd rendering of the original image and the only thing that changed in this image was the zoom settings I modified:

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http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom1.jpg

The time came in getting the tropical look to the water and editing the waves and getting the coral to show through via the transparency, and then modifying the surface map for the land took the most time overall. The sky I barely modified except for the clouds to cast shadows.

Each level of detail I added, added to the rendering time. There were about 720,000 quadrilaterals rendered each time and even with a pretty quick processor, I think the last render took close to an hour.
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Ok that makes sense....I definately see the difference in the render times take effect in those two pictures.

I guess I have a lot to learn about rendering because some things that I have rendered in 3ds max took way too long for me, so I just deleted the project. Now I see why
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Here's the progression if you'd like to see it (trust me, there was very much editing and previews in between):

http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom1.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom2.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom3.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom4.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom5.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom6.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom7.jpg
http://atnopro.com/ozzu/reef/zoom8.jpg

Of, course the final picture is posted at the beginning of this thread. The only "adjustment" I did to the final was to do a quick "auto level" adjustment for contrast in Photoshop -- other than that the rest was done through Terragen.
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In 7, is that what the built in foam effect does?
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You know ATNO, if you get some kinda spray going (just look at photos of Niagara for some ideas), you could make that look like a SERIOUSLY huge waterfall goin' off to the left.

I think the effect would look even more realistic if there was just a small rock on the left too, make it look like you're following the flow of the water, then it goes around the bend & off the drop where it's currently the end of the world :)
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Awesome!
I've got to give this a try!
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Axe -- I think you're spot on. I'd have to add the foam spray (and maybe a rainbow) in Photoshop. I can cut the water level by about 20 or 30 meters and it should show land, but I'd have to reduce the surface map for the coral effect by about the same -- I cut that one close.

Truth is, I haven't the "foggiest" idea how to do the photoshop stuff. I can send you the world, terrain and sruface map files if you want to have a go at it.
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Sorry but i am gonna be real here.

You love terragen, but it doesnt love you back. Im not gonna say "Oh thats awsome" and crap like that because to put it bluntly its not.

As a fellow terragen user it pains me to see that this took 16 hours. I am assuming thats render time? If so then thats understandable because these are pretty big...

You need a different camera angle, it seems as though you placed this at the end of the map? It doesnt feel balenced and thats a problem for any artwork. Reading through some of these posts it seems as if you wanted to achive a waterfall effect. The thing is like i just explained, i had no clue that thats whats going on, you need to present that better. Maybe have the camera at another angle so that you can present some of the waterfall, even with the mist and the rainbow i doubt i would have gotten it.

The colours on the mountian are to strong as well, tone those down. The colours are all to vivid and its really hard on the eyes in your final production render. It seems to me that this really started to fall apart around the 6th step, the water is starting to look a little to see through, and the moutian is falling apart already as well. I can see how you want to be able to see the reef but if the water and the moutain dont compliment eachother then you are gonna have problems real fast.

If you look around deviant art you can find some really good stuff just like what you are trying to do here.

I cant say that this is good, and i am sorry about that, i can see some ups and downs but this overall just isnt solid at all. You can grow a lot with the program, its EXTREAMLY easy to get used to as i am sure you know, you just need to see the materials arent working right and know where the colour ajustments are needed.

Sorry if my critique seemed harsh at first, i tried to be as constructive as i could, but it was important that you saw how my first impression was.

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Well...it's very constructive Mike. Actually -- I sorta feel the same way -- but that was my first "real" attempt at a Terragen render in at least over a year, and the very first time I played in detail with the water and the Surface Map. In truth I had no intention for it to have a "waterfall" look -- that was just sorta how it turned out when I changed the zoom, and I liked the look.

Be assured I will take your critique to heart and work with it more over time. I love this program. If I had the funds immediately available I would register the full verion and go for broke. At the moment, it's a play toy and experimentation with something I've always wanted to do. I've tried similar with Bryce in the past, but could never get it to do what Terregen does.

Thanks much for the post.

//And yes, the 16 hours was mostly render time.

// // btw --you wouldn't happen to be Michiel de Boer, would you?
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Your critique seems more harsh than constructive. I happen to like it, and I am sure that a lot of people just starting to use it probably could not come up with better.

Of course you may be the exception.
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Just ignore him, that's the typical individual who cannot make it any better himself. Sure the criticism was constructive, but he could have supplied sources that "were better" or whatever he thought at the moment.

I'm an Artist at heart and have been working with graphics since the first Corel Paint came out, ATNO's samples are truly cool in my opinion.
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Vladdrac and SymLink -- Thank you. Glad you both like my image, but I took no offense at the criticism, whatsover. Having learned what I have learned about the program -- his points were spot on. I could clearly see everything he was talking about, and appreciated the feedback, and will practice on improving my deficiencies with the program. There's no doubt in my mind that this gentleman knows what he's talking about and I'd certainly love to see some of his work. I have no doubt that it far surpasses mine.
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yes,
it seemed like a very harsh critisism...
I would like to see him back it up with some of his own work
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ANTO/TW: Thanks for taking my comment the way it was ment to be taken. Looking back on it i did phrase it a bit harsh, but was flawed for words at the time.

You can sift through my deviant art account if you would like, i have a few of my terragen renders in there.

http://devidedthrone.deviantart.com

If you would like to see some amazing terragen and photoshop work i think you might want to check out a few more names i can give you at deviant art.

http://alyn.deviantart.com/ <- The way he incorperates space into terragen is amazing, and he is only 16 years old.
http://kube.deviantart.com/ <- Just open your mouth and drool.
http://heidorn.deviantart.com/ <- More space/terra

Here is the terragen only part of *alyn's site
http://www.justalyn.co.uk/gallery/thumb ... hp?album=8
http://www.justalyn.co.uk/gallery/thumb ... p?album=13

I havent worked in Terragen in a while myself, so what is in my gallery at dA is really all i got. Right now i am focusing on MAX.

Overall its a simple program that turns out amazing results. All it takes is a little time to play around with it.

If you want some help on how to add the mist i might be able to help, i think i got an idea on how to do it. Let me know and i would be glad to PM you the info 8)

@Those of you who disliked my comment: I am sorry if i offended any of you, as i am twoards ANTO/TW, but if you knew the program i belive you would understand what i was talking about in how to better it.

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i like it alot its very cool i even put it as wallpaper

it looks very cool , u made a very good job ATNO/TW

I would love to use the same brogram .... it must be cool and fun GREAT JOB

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