What do you think about this technology?

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Post June 23rd, 2006, 6:05 am

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OK, Dynamic painting is not Art. It is an element of design. Why not? The question is: what it is more preferable for you - the Rotho masterpiece or a dynamic picture which varies all time?


Well, whatever you call it, I'm not impressed. I'm basically with flavah. Personally I don't like your's or the Rotho masterpiece. But I suppose that's the way it is with art. Extremely subjective.
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 6:36 am

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Well, whatever you call it, I'm not impressed. I'm basically with flavah. Personally I don't like your's or the Rotho masterpiece. But I suppose that's the way it is with art. Extremely subjective.

The goal of my message is not to pay attention to MY OWN art. My purpose - to pay attention to the new TECHNOLOGY . I suppose that I'm not too talented artist. Maybe. But someone other can make excellent pictures using this technology.

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You did not see my works. You saw only STATIC images. :)
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 6:38 am

I understood you quite clearly. I'm not impressed with the technology either. I was actually tempted to remove this post a couple times because in reality all it is is a nicely covered up sales pitch.
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 7:03 am

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I understood you quite clearly. I'm not impressed with the technology either. I was actually tempted to remove this post a couple times because in reality all it is is a nicely covered up sales pitch.

I not a seller. I have no company. I'm a private person. I do not sell technology. Do you want to get it for free? - ask me.
If it is your own forum - you can remove this post. You are supermoderator, you have this power. But I thought it is forum for artists and designers. This is "Digital Art" thread.
And If you wish to tell to me something - why you use the main thread? Send me a private message.

I think you should remove all yours and my posts because it interested only for you and me. But the subject can interest other people here.
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 11:08 am

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I not a seller. I have no company. I'm a private person. I do not sell technology. Do you want to get it for free? - ask me.


Why do you sell it for $24.99 on your website then?
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 12:21 pm

LOL owned!
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 12:32 pm

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Why do you sell it for $24.99 on your website then?

The thing is that, the size of this program is about 200MB, therefore I should send CD by mail. But I cannot do it for my own expenses. I think, that 2.5 cents/image is not too expensive. In any case it's not my business, belive me.

It is the instance of other dynamic picture. Looks more traditionally:
You can see, that the stylistics and a plot of this picture and the previous ones are absolutely different.

http://www.sanbase.com/art/img/x396.jpg

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Post June 23rd, 2006, 12:52 pm

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Bigwebmaster wrote:
Why do you sell it for $24.99 on your website then?

The thing is that, the size of this program is about 200MB, therefore I should send CD by mail. But I cannot do it for my own expenses. I think, that 2.5 cents/image is not too expensive.


Okay I can understand there is an expense to put it on a cd and send it via mail. CDs cost around 20 cents I think, and to mail it probably costs less than a buck. So selling it for $24.99 means there is quite a bit of profit on each one. So who is receiving that profit? Are you donating it to a great cause? Such as the Sanbase foundation?
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 1:02 pm

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Okay I can understand there is an expense to put it on a cd and send it via mail. CDs cost around 20 cents I think, and to mail it probably costs less than a buck. So selling it for $24.99 means there is quite a bit of profit on each one. So who is receiving that profit? Are you donating it to a great cause? Such as the Sanbase foundation?

Could you copy CD for me for free? + envelopes (special for CD) + stamps (for instance in China, Australia etc.). OK? All profit will be yours. :)
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 5:00 pm

I do not try to make a representation of the three-dimensional world, I draw a picture like artists do. It is a different approach in comparison with a standard 3D application. It may not be as realistic, but my goal was not a realistic image. My purpose was to make the image meaningful, emotional, but at the same time abstract.

I have made it for my daughter, for example:
http://www.sanbase.com/art/img/x398.jpg
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 7:21 pm

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I do not try to make a representation of the three-dimensional world, I draw a picture like artists do. It is a different approach in comparison with a standard 3D application. It may not be as realistic, but my goal was not a realistic image. My purpose was to make the image meaningful, emotional, but at the same time abstract.

I have made it for my daughter, for example:
http://www.sanbase.com/art/img/x398.jpg


So in other words you wrote the program and are trying to sell it?
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Post June 23rd, 2006, 8:02 pm

I still don't understand why you joined ozzu just to post this? What is your main message? I don't understand the meaning behind this thread...
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Post June 24th, 2006, 6:13 am

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So in other words you wrote the program and are trying to sell it?
No. The program is not for sale.
I wish to find people whom interests this technique. I do not intend to make a secret of this technology; I am ready to share it with talented folks. But they must possess two talents: the depictive skill and computer programming. I am not saying there are no such people, I myself am an artist and computer programmer, but I do know other people with the same combination of skills. I try to find them.
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Post June 24th, 2006, 7:32 am

How very odd. sanbase, I tried to respond to this message when it was first posted in the General Discussion forum, but the thread was moved and then it disappeared. This was a few days ago, I think. And now, it's back. Hrm.

Anyway. Regardless of your motivation for posting on this forum, regardless of what people think about your personal work, the technology is something I find amazing and fascinating. I can think of quite a few chaoscope, xenodream, apophysis, and ultra fractal users who'd really go for this kind of thing. Is the technology behind dynamic painting something that you will be making commercially available, something that you would license to individuals? I think that it would really fit in well with the fractal/flame artist community.

To have a constantly mutating, evolving work displayed on a plasma screen hanging on my wall would be amazing. How automated is the process? Do you just start with one of your pieces and let it go? Can you alter any parameters to affect the outcome? Can you keep a visual log of a piece's evolution, so that you can easily recall how it looked, say, a week ago?

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Post June 24th, 2006, 7:51 am

Does it visually mutate in real time?
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