Flash and 16 bit vs 32 bit color

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What I have noticed sometimes when I create something in flash is that when viewing the site at 32 bit color in windows the flash that I design matches perfectly with the background color that surrounds. For example:

http://www.bigwebmaster.com/

The top left corner has a flash logo with the backround being the color #333333. Now the surrounded area which isn't flash is also #333333.

Now in 32 bit color they match perfectly, however if I go and change the settings of Windows to 16 bit color you can clearly see that they do not match and thus makes the flash box stand out as there is a contrast.

Anyway I was wondering if anybody knows why this is happening and what I can do to resolve this. Am I supposed to use some kind of "Web Safe" colors? And if so, I thought #333333 was a web safe color ( I looked it up ). Anyway any help would be great :)
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what version of flash are you using? and in your export settings, what
do you have it set to? can you post a ss?
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Well if I post a screenshot it will still look right for you since you are viewing in 32 bit color haha. It has somethign to do with using 32 bit color versus using 16 bit color. In 16 bit color the shades of grey in the flash background simply do not match the background of what is around the flash.
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a ss of your settings, not the image
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Have you tried rather then using a specified color for a background,
an actual 1x1 pixel of that color, as your background image ?


the rendering of colors is diff in 16 vs 32
the #333333 is seen somewhat differently.

to overcome something like this, I've had to use the 1x1 pixle as a colored background image, in the past.

I had this problem once when I was trying for a true white,
I had some .jpg in there with white background, but on other
systems, some showed a bit pinkish.

I match the color on the white for a 1x1 pixel, used it
as the pages default background image and the problem went away.


Perhaps try it ...
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Good idea Steen, let me go see how I made this flash file. I used Swish for this one. I will give screen shot of my settings too. I beileve the background was all an image though, not simply done by setting it to #333333. All I used the flash for was to give it its lighting effects.
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well, anyway....

flash apparently has this weird thing where different monitor settings
cause it to appear a different color or shade. macromedia.com doesn't
have anythign on the subject at all, and that tells me it's not a very
common issue, other than with users who see it.

From what I got out of a conversation with a flash-buddy of mine, there
isn't any way to fix it, but it's not always visible to everyone either. It's
a luck of the draw to see it or not with your monitor.

For instance, I just changed my settings to 16-bit and went to
bigwebmaster.com and didn't see the color difference.

so who knows, this could just be where flash has a different color
palette than windows, or it could just be how many different monitors
interpret some colors. It's not just #333333, many others can appear
this way as well.

the bad part is, there's no way to fix it. :(
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Steen wrote:

Have you tried rather then using a specified color for a background,
an actual 1x1 pixel of that color, as your background image ?

great idea steen :thumbsup:
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Here is my screen shot. It looks like the background color is totally made by the image and not the settings I have there. As you can see its #ffffff, so its definetely not by that:

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Also with regards to what Unflux just said, I do notice that on my computer with the LCD monitor when I put it to 16 bit I do not see the difference. However when I put it on my old computer with its own monitor (not the LCD) which is using Windows 98 I do see the difference in 16 bit mode, but it is totally fine in 32 bit mode.... hmmmmmmmmm.
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this is not flash sir. this is swish :roll:

why don't you use flash instead? so much better
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Man you two are lucky to own the latest FLASH,
I've had bad luck finding the < coughs > correct version, < double coughs >

Hint, hint ...
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Because it was much simplier to make. It still creates compatible Flash files. I am a busy guy, I haven't had time to learn Flash yet to the extent I would want. So Swish is my substitute for now. Anyway that has nothing to do with my problem. (Pretty sure).
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I had something on transparent Flash.

let me have a look ...
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Bigwebmaster wrote:
.... when I put it on my old computer with its own monitor (not the LCD) which is using Windows 98 I do see the difference in 16 bit mode, but it is totally fine in 32 bit mode....


try hitting F5 a couple of times, refresh it.

I had some flash that loaded slightly ofset on the colors,
went away when I hit refresh once and awhile.

oddly enough ...
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You guys RULE !!!!

looky here ... transparent Flash

& webpage:

http://www.codephobia.com/tutorials/view.php3?idnum=2


Boy I wish I had a proper flash program! < coughs loudly >
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this is def a weird problem, and obviously not consistent. Probably why
MM.com has nothing on the subject. :scratchhead:
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Steen wrote:
try hitting F5 a couple of times, refresh it.

I had some flash that loaded slightly ofset on the colors,
went away when I hit refresh once and awhile.

oddly enough ...


Hmm interesting, I will have to go try that in a bit.
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I know it happens alot though, because my sister told me she saw that difference awhile back on her computer, that is what got me to start thinking to why it happens.
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I wonder if it makes any difference if the two images I put into the flash file were gifs or jpeg.
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Steen wrote:

You guys RULE !!!!

looky here ... transparent Flash

webpage:

http://www.codephobia.com/tutorials/view.php3?idnum=2


Boy I wish I had a proper flash program! < coughs loudly >


That is a really cool page Steen. I love transparencies :)
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that right there makes a world of difference!!!

when you import an image into flash, you have 2 places to edit the
compression on the file. Within the Library, you can set the jpg
properties exclusively to that image, as well as in the export settings you
have the ability to choose the overall jpg quality.

If you imported it as a gif, you will almost def have this prob. I'm willing
to put $ on it, that if you go into the properties panel of that image, and
change it to 100%, it may just clear this up.

*fingers crossed*

you know where to go for that?
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No I do not, I am opening the program up now to look though. Hoping that it is the problem it too :) otherwise I will have to resort to the transparency way Steen suggested as I think that might be an alternative. However I would really like to figure out why its doing it, so going to try to to this.
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Hey Big, what did you do to the (&)nbsp;

it's not working anymore.

I use it to space stuff out.

      never mind - testing            testing       1       2        3

what gives ?

Never mind, working ...
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Okay quality was on high, there is one higher though called "Best" - not sure if this will do anything but I will try.
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Steen wrote:
 

Hey Big, what did you do to the (&)nbsp;

it's not working anymore.

I use it to space stuff out.

      never mind - testing            testing       1       2        3

what gives ?

Never mind, working ...


I usually use the spacebar :scratchhead: hehe
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can't space stuff out more then one spot using the spacebar.

too wierd, it works in some cases other times it only shows an '&'
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Well I exported it on the highest setting then went down to my other computer and cleared out the cache completely before loading up the site and its still there. Now when I import the image could that be where the problem might lie? It just seems weird to me why it wouldnt affect the comp I am on then since it looks fine here. Grrr.
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monitors render on different resolutions.

16 or 32

give up on it man,
learn the transparent Flash I just showed you instead.

ROFL


oh goody, my 100th post coming up ...

    hmm, better be something special.
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Bigweb - remember what we talked about from that other board?
people need to upgrade if they'er on older stuffs. These people need to
get with the times if they're still viewing everything at 16-bit!

(sorry steen about the upgrade comment ;))
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