What Is The Best Stage Setting for most Browsers?

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:o Hi All,

I would like to make an effort, to build a complete site in Flash.
What is the best size for me to set my stage in Flash, to show best on most common browsers/windows? Are there any excellent Flash sites to use as example of this?

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here's a good place to start --
http://www.kirupa.com/developer/mx/full_site.htm

do you have any knowledge of flash at all? http://www.kirupa.com has a ton
of great tutorials to get you started, or to advance yourself as well.

in terms of dimensions, that is completely up to you as a designer.
I started designing all my sites for 1024x768 resolution this year because
most people are using that resolution over 800x600. A safe stage size
is 780x550 or so.
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A typical stage size that i've heard being used for Flash sites is usually in the area of around 700x500.

However, as Unflux stated, it is you as a designer that has to figure that out. You can design smaller for a compact layout, but then you might cramp everything together if you don't pull it off right. Or you can make a larger layout, but then people with smaller monitors may have to scroll. Or you can design something that will fit comfortably within a browser on an 800x600 monitor (keep in mine the viewable browser area will not be 800x600) so that it can be viewed at least on that monitor size, and it won't look so cramped on larger monitors.
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Thank again guy, I am kind of new to Flash, about one years worth of skills. This will be my first site built in Flash now the I know some AS.

*Let me ask you this... I have been to at least two sites built in Flash that has something that looks like a "Floating Menu".

Example: You click on a subject of interest, and the next thing you know, a menu pops up and is attached to you mouse pointer. You can release it or click on it and move it around some more. And for sure you can click on the menu list to go to whatever page.

What is the called, and what book and/or site can teach me that one?

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Do you mean something like these?

http://www.flashkit.com/movies/Interfac ... php?chk=no

http://www.flashkit.com/movies/Interfac ... php?chk=no

http://www.flashkit.com/movies/Interfac ... php?chk=no

If so, then I have to put my $0.02 in.

These types of menus, although can look very nice, or cool, are useability nightmares. Many people find it quite annoying when the menu follows the mouse, because it makes it harder for them to do what they want to do with the mouse. And then on top of that, if you still have the menu follow the mouse while it is opened, the navigation buttons become a pain to try and hit and you have a menu taking up your stage which isn't pretty.

But if you decide to use one, the 3 above links are all open source if you want to check out how they are done ;)
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:o *Laughing* I really thought I was seeing something New & Hott.
Oh well, I really thank you for your replies and help.

:?: By the way, what is New & Hott these days?

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:o Lostinbeta,

I went to the flashkit site you linked, and those are not what I mean.
Go Here:
http://www.msichicago.org/scrapbook/scr ... ndex2.html

This is a well built Flash site, that has one really cool pre-loader I'll kill to have (not really kill). That "music On/Off" graphic is cool also, looks like a EQ read out. This person has madd skillz.
BUT
What I am talking about you'll find if you click [exhibits/interactives], a menu will pop-up with the word drag on it, and you can drag the menu all over the page.
Now that is something cool, I love to create.

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I'm going to review this site as if it was posted for comments in our
Website Reviews section to give you an idea of what I think about
sites like this. Please don't take my comments personally, I'm just being honest.

//begin site review
I don't think that site is very good at all, for a lot of reasons. Most of
these reasons, I consider to be fundamental and basic design.
Some of the design elements are good, but overall it's a very poorly designed site.

The colors are strained on the eyes, and too bright for a black bg. A dark
grey would serve it a lot better for those color choices.

The flash work is remedial and common. Most of it is open source from
sites like flashkit (i.e. navigation, equilizer, dragable menu, etc.). You
could go and download 6 tutorials, piece them together, and have a site
as good as that. Being able to do just that, does not make for a good
site IMO.

The usability of the site is ok, but it definitely could better. The images
being used are actually the strongest point. There's some really good
stock photos throughout the different sections that bring color and
variety. I do like that about it.
//end site review

All of the "ooh and ahh" you have, comes from your relative newness to
seeing flash, let alone good flash. Overall, there really isn't anything
special about this site. Like I said, I'm not trying to burst your bubble or
sound rude or mean...I just want you (and others) to understand that
using open source material is weak, and never makes for a good design.

If you want "new and hott," visit some sites like these, and check out
their portfolios along with their own sites. There are so many great
ones, but here's a few to get you started.

You will be amazed, I assure you --

http://www.2advanced.com
http://www.billybussey.com
http://www.flashlevel.com

Here's a thread wehre some of us started a list as well --
http://www.ozzu.com/viewtopic.php?t=371

enjoy :D
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Oh, so you want what is known as a draggable window, not a floating menu ;)

Well in that case, check this out...

http://www.flashkit.com/tutorials/Inter ... /index.php

I know that was totally done in Flash 4 and needs updating, but i'm in a rush so I can't explain how to do it, and I can't search more for what you need.

But now that you know they are called draggable windows, you could run a search for more on google or other flash related help sites.
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:o Gents,

Thank you both very much. I will take the advice of doing tutors online.
I will continue to seek growth, thanks.
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Tutorials online are a must for learning Flash.

It's how I learned. Just gotta know where to look ;)

I basically started off googling for flash tutorials, then as I found sites that I liked I stuck between those sites and did tutorials as needed, then tried to adapt those tutorials in other ways to help me learn more about the methods instead of just that effect (or whatever the tute was on).

When all else fails, forum time 8)
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lol, AMEN!
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Yes I agree that 2advanced & Blitz Digital Studios are outstanding. Those sites has one flaw, they are not built for surfers without DSL or at least High Speed. New sufers will not know that the "Pre Loader" is bring up the site, find the site slow, and move on. This could cost a client income. Sometimes we must think of our clients basic needs first, will a Flash developed site do anymore then a HTML site with some or no Flash. Will those well designed, well built, basic HTML sites with great images and text still get the point across to surfers and new business. All the extra toys, and sounds could make for a long slow day for the dail-up folks. But again, for the DSL surfers, it comes no better then a Flash site.

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