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Post April 6th, 2006, 2:32 pm

Came across this article via /. and couldn't help but be compelled to share it...

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"The Montreal Gazette today reported that a professor at Montreal's McGill University was refused a $40,000 grant, allegedly because 'he'd failed to provide the panel with ample evidence that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.' Ironically, the grant was for a study into the detrimental effects of intelligent design on Canadian academics and leaders." From the article: "Jennifer Robinson, McGill's associate vice-principal for communications, said the university has asked the SSHRC to review its decision to reject Alters's request for money to study how the rising popularity in the United States of 'intelligent design' - a controversial creationist theory of life - is eroding acceptance of evolutionary science in Canada."


http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/n ... f2&k=11346
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Post April 6th, 2006, 2:58 pm

It's frigtning that these people get to decide what sections of education gets funding.
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Post April 6th, 2006, 3:59 pm

That's funding for research, not education. Yes, I agree that it's frightening that governments throw their money away on things like this :P
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Post April 6th, 2006, 4:45 pm

is really sickening how people decide this stuff it's like there a bunch of retards running every thing its wrong
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Post April 6th, 2006, 7:32 pm

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That's funding for research, not education. Yes, I agree that it's frightening that governments throw their money away on things like this :P


But education would be a bi-product of research, would it not?

Throwing money away would be to produce text books to schools across a nation advocating intelligent design to the next generation of youth while scientific fact, in turn, becomes second or third rate... or even worse - not considered.... which is what situations like these can lead to if we're not careful.
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Post April 6th, 2006, 8:31 pm

lol, I hate to get involved in this, but, here we go......

I have no problem with evolution being taught in school, or researched. So, I do believe that they SHOULD have granted him the money. What I idslike is when other things are left out, such as creationism (you all know I'm a creationist). I dont think that the education system should be allowed to pick and choose between a few main stream ideas, and make only a few acceptabel in the class room. Teach it ALL, or dont teach it. Its not the schools place to determine whats right and whats wrong for people, its up to the person to determine what they wish to believe. ;)
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Post April 6th, 2006, 9:32 pm

Creationism is a religious belief, So why should it be included in the mainstream science education?

Creationism should be taught, but as a story in the bible during a religious study class, nothing more.
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Post April 7th, 2006, 6:11 am

LOL wow McGill is in the news a lot lately. What with the playboy article and now this.
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Post April 7th, 2006, 7:23 am

meman wrote:
Creationism is a religious belief, So why should it be included in the mainstream science education?

Creationism should be taught, but as a story in the bible during a religious study class, nothing more.


If you feel like actually researching into creationism vs evolution a bit, take a few hours and read this site. http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/creation.shtml

To be honest, I doubt that you have ever actually questioned your beliefs, you just follow what you passionatly believe to be correct. I used to believe in evolution, but it didnt add up in my mind. I found too many flaws and contradictions to follow it blindly any more, so I started looking around for something that made more sense to me. I found the web site that I posted for you.

This is my last post on this topic, I dont feel like getting involved in an argument that consists of us going back and forth saying what we BELIEVE, but providing no factual evidence. Cheers!

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Post April 7th, 2006, 7:44 am

Smokenjoe wrote:
meman wrote:
Creationism is a religious belief, So why should it be included in the mainstream science education?

Creationism should be taught, but as a story in the bible during a religious study class, nothing more.


If you feel like actually researching into creationism vs evolution a bit, take a few hours and read this site. http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/creation.shtml

That's a christian site... What do you expect them to say?
Which proves my point, Creationism is a religious idea, and should only be taught in a religious context, i.e made up and completely void of facts and evidence.
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Post April 7th, 2006, 8:14 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4879672.stm

Take whatever you want from the article.
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Post April 7th, 2006, 10:31 am

teach is all or dont teach at all

i really believe this it is the truth if you can teach but one thing when it may be worng then dont teach it at all. all ideas on the begining world should be added in school not just some one crack pot idea (no offence to any one else that dont be in creationism)[/quote]
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Post April 7th, 2006, 12:15 pm

Interesting article grinch.
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Post April 7th, 2006, 1:06 pm

but even know that they have found fossils of dead animals form the pass yes that may prove that the bigbang theory is true
but in the bible when god made adam he made him mature so that can lead up to believe that he made a mature earth.
so all theorys should be tought in school not just the wons some board of people say
who are they to say who is rite and who is wrong or what should be taught in schools
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Post April 7th, 2006, 1:35 pm

You can't teach something when every answer to every question will be "God done it".

That isn't education, it's indoctrination.
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