Guns, are they good or bad?

I was thinking about that when I was posting that. I guess I'm wrong again

"There is no spoon."

There might not be a spoon, but there is a spork.

I think the poll should be.. "Are Gun Laws good or bad?"

Gun Laws only affect Good People. Bad People don't care what the Laws are.

That is what I believe as well. I guess if you read my post you would probably see that in my post.

I primarily was thinking about guns and not the laws to be the topic of this postmbut I see that the laws governing the use and accessibility to the guns would have probably being a better idea... I can't edit my original post now, but that pertains to guns so that is part of this topic.

I personally don't think gun laws do much (except for the ones that governs the accessibility of it) since (like you said) that it's only for good people since those are the ones who actuallly follow them. Bad people ignore them, but making guns batsmen reach would make gujs hard to feach for 'some' people. Other people might have connections or find a way around the law.

I've seen bumper stickers that say "If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns." I think pretty soon it might be "If you outlaw masturbating, then only the outlaws will masturbate." How does Christine O'Donnell really plan on enforcing that law if she gets elected and actually manages to have that made into a law?

I don't have the privilege in my country to go to a gas station and buy a gun ( i mean a real one). Here only authorities are allowed to wear , shot and own a gun ... i am not saying is a good or bad thing , but i would really like to know how is to go hunting for real not blank , not C0²..

I own the largest firearm website in the Northwest. I think you guys can figure out how I voted

By virtue of the fact that guns are inanimate objects there is no possible way they can be good or bad. Being good or bad ties directly back to being able to actively decide on the action you going to take.

I often marvel at how people will ban guns but knives are never to be banned, large woodden beams, baseball bats, bricks, rocks, cars, trucks or anything that has the capacity to kill is left alone. Is it because they have a purpose other than destroying a target? Knives are far more dangerous than guns with in 7 meters of a target if the fire is holstered. Most law enforcement officers get killed with in 0-6 meters by knives. Knives never run out of ammunition and cut through bone and tissue. Knives are easier to conceal and get rid of but ban the guns though

I am willing to state that should a "bad" guy have a gun you are gonna wish that a good guy also has one.

As for dodging bullets, well Bogey, you can actually. Let us talk hypothetically for a second. A knife with a 12cm blade has a lethal area of? You guessed it 12cm, 2cm of which is all that is require to hack open your juggular, femoral or any other major blood vessels. A general swing of any knife (check out your favourite steak knife or bread knife) could in likely hood take off fingers or leave a rather unsitely gash in ones flesh.

Now on the other hand lets take a commonly used handgun caliber. 9mm. This is the diameter of the bullet head. 9mm to hit the target. Add the recoil from discharging the weapon and you start getting a great deal of time to move out of the way. 9mm is also the caliber used in the MP5 automatic sub machine gun.

So if you ask me to take my chances against 9mm bullet or a 12cm blade, I am gonna go for the bullet thank you very much and don't argue about range because if you are standing 50m out and someone takes a shot at you, you need to ask why you were there. Most self defense shootings happen with in 7m, the effective range of the knife.

Anyways, having done CQC and recently having started Systema I think the whole world needs to catch a wake up and stop blaming weapons for death. There is only one thing that makes a weapon dangerous and that is a man. Confiscating them will not work, you make your civilians targets for violent crimes.

That being said, I think the real question is this. Are human beings good or bad?

P.S. Please note that I have not included assault rifles or high power rifles. Those fall into a whole new game.

A knife you can dodge no matter what... the knives aren't moving at 500 feet per second. It gives you a moment to dodge and disarm the opponent. A bullet though travels at 500 f/s if not more, and you are telling me you can dodge that?

You can't... you are relying on the opponent missing the target, or hitting a non-major spot on your body... that would be lucky, not skill.

There are ways you can disarm your opponent in a knife fight with or without a knife... there is no way to dodge a bullet except for the opponent missing you or you wearing the riot shield (or something to that effect).

But I agree with you that it's not the gun but the human being that makes the result good or bad out of the gun. The gun is just an inanimate object with no thoughts to be bad or good. I guess I didn't initiate the correct topic to yield a more fruitful discussion, but I think that it is turning there so it's all good.

I wonder what psychological mindset or what makes the person react in the way he/she does with a gun.

I know this is going to sound silly but the idea made me completely chance how I viewed the threat of a knife.

Put on some crappy jeans and a tshirt and give your friend a red Sharpie. Tell him/her to "attack" you with the marker as if it were a knife. The "fight" stops if you can successfully restrain you friend or you give up.

Afterwards, look for all the red marks on your body and clothes. Each one of those is a cut or gash; a spot from which you are bleeding out. Even a few well-placed nicks are enough to make it life-threatening.

Ok, how do you do something like that but relevant to guns?

You're missing the point.