do i have the right to be pissed?

Who is paying for the hosting?....domain name?...

if he has merly comtributed some code, pics, whatever.... with no copyright...
stuff him
slap ur own copyright on it.

it might not be right, but the way he is acting, uncivilised, then he deservers what he gets.
he paid nothing for the domain name, or hosting...
so all his stuff is on whoever paid for the webhost.
delete it, anything he made, he has a problem with that?...
who paid for what eh!?

well, thats just what I would do...
Or (b-t-s-o-o-h)
cus i just get p**** easily

pay no attention to me...
i go off on one sometimes lol

I agree with Nucleo. If he's not contributing money, and his technical contribution isn't worth it, it's a waste of your time dealing with him. If he's your friend, just explain it to him. If he's REALLY a friend, he should understand, as long as you're not confrontational about it.

The bottom line is, change the FTP passwords again, and don't give in this time. Call whoever is doing your hosting, and make sure they won't provide assistance to him (in case he tries to call them directly.. of course, if he wants his own account.. that's his business).

It's not worth the effort dealing with that sort of garbage.

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That what I would say... also as a Team should always work together and respect others work.

you know we gave him a second chance... he said that he was going to work on the site this weekend... hrm... 2319 sunday evening... not one single file has been changed on the site since wednessday when i went and reconstructed the mainpage... hrm... this sucks... hes not doing any work, but hes my friend... damn i dont know what to do...

make backups, lots of backups

but seriously, even if he is a freind you have to look out for the site. Remember the site is for your public. Not so much for you all, but your fans.

I think you really need to get rid of him

Well, its 21:22 Monday the 31st.... no updates from him... the other admin (who has not been working) posted bio's to are way to extensive for me o.O.... but thats me....

I am the one paying the Domain Name chargre, the hosting is provided free by a friend of mine who was kind enough to offer us space so damn long ago (2 years i think it is now), and he's also saying "kick him". Anyway..... now we just need a way to ask a VERY large person to step down ..... (he's body-checked people and sent them accross rooms and into the air) o.o

friends don't do that to each other, regardless of the situation

if he is a friend then he should understand...

some friends don't understand
sometimes it's hard doing business with friends. You shouldn't start until you know for sure your friend is responsible.
But in this case, kick him before it gets worse.

Going into business with friends is alot like becoming roomates with someone you're already friends with. I've learned both lessions the hard way already. When it comes to business, you don't want to go into business with a complete stranger, but you're usually better off not getting into it with someone you know well, or at least someone you tend to spend time with away from doing business (aka, a friend...).

It's an important rule to have, but it's hard to understand why until you have a problem. Some people are lucky, and no serious problems come up, but then there's the other 95% of people =]

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Hey there,

Everyone seems to be putting in their two cents worth... So I figured I had better go and throw in mine too

Not that I have anything particularly new to add but ...

Allow him to keep his rights, (that way he does not feel cheated / betrayed. As he is your friend, (and while he would be jumping to a pretty large conclusion) he may conclude you are attacking him personally and his friendship that he has to you.

I completely understand the time and effort that "others" have contributed to your site, but it is just a bunch of 1's and 0's.

If you really consider him to be your friend, and your friendship with him is important, then you should put that first. When he sees that he is your priority (above the website that is , perhaps not above anything else) then I I think you will see a change in heart by him. (ie he will contribute more steadily, or cease complaining about the contributions of others.)

Its easy enough to reload some code, a lot harder to reclaim a friend.

A few side notes if I may....

I am not saying you're wrong for being annoyed at him, I am not saying you're wrong for changing the passwords. But I am not your friend. I don't already feel that I have some sort of ownership at your site and I don't feel that my existing friendship with you should be sufficient to see me through any crappy decisions I may or may not make.

But he might just be.


Explain to him that he is an important friend to you, and important to the site. His effort into the site does not go unnoticed and is always welcomed and appreciated. (I understand he may currently be doing nothing).
Straight away, you have him in a receptive mood, he may not like anything you say after that, but at least you hold a better chance of him actually listening to you... then, you need to give him your ideas and ask him to think about it for a while and get back to you...
Don't nag him, don't say the same thing multiple times (even if it is in a different way. Guys hate Nagging... you start repeating yourself, he'll stop listening... - I guarantee it.

The points you want to bring up with him are;
If he wishes to be remain an admin of the site, he is required to do some administration. (don't tell him how slack he has been. Just leave it as a comment.)

Tell him his work is appreciated and respected by the other admins, and visitors to the site, and likewise, you (the other admins) expect, and even demand, that respect for your work, back from him. )again, leave it there... don't give him examples.... he already knows that he has strayed from this path, since he is listening to you tell him about it!)

Let him know, that an admin of the site is a responsibility but is also supposed to be a fun outlet. add something like : "I don't want you to take this wrong way, we're not trying to get rid of you, but - If you're no longer enjoying your role as an administrator and / or no longer want he responsibility of looking after the site, then perhaps you would prefer to be just a member. Your friendship is more important to me, than having to argue over a web site all the time with you."


I am sure you get the picture... keep it positive, keep it direct, men just don't get "beat around the bush" speak. Ultimately, leave him in no doubt that the decision is 'his' to make and that he needs to make it.

Hopefully, you will get the results from him (admin wise) and keep your friendship too.

Subsequently, if after this chat he is still not pulling his weight, still not being respectful to your work etc, then you should change the password again and not tell him what it is.
Tell him your friendship is more important than fighting over a web site, and so you have take the website away, so that you may continue your friendship...

He may well get pissed off, but he will realise, he has it done it to himself, as you made him responsible for it originally (the decision)...

Anyway, I hope this helps.... if not... it was only my two cents worth...
Wait until I roll out the five cents worth!!!!

Best of luck......