IE8 is the best! Wait, what?! Who wrote this??

Google's GMAIL is a lot of Javascript.

On that argument you quoted (of mine), I didn't really know what to say... I just felt that Javascript wasn't wrong to use for DOM processing and that stuff... didn't consider the fact that some developers use Javascript for everything.

Punch developers in the face LOL, Love that!

Bogey the point is this. I am by no means a super programmer but I know enough to know that I wouldn't dare try implementing a system unless I had 100% certainty that I was able to do it correctly. Sure I might site around and hack at it a bit in a dev environment but I would launch the system for business/public consumption.

The web is not about design practises. It is about standards compliance. Image the scenario where by IE wasn't able to render a single site because the document was valid but it was unable to render the document. It would then be MS responsibility to rectify the issues not developers problems to hack to fit. So it is kinda like contract driven development. I fulfill my responsibility in what I say is going to be available and beyond that point you are responsible for making sure you can use it.

I think Spork pretty much summed up what I was trying to say

Javascript is handy but again, flyout menus, a more engaging user experience, async requests and post backs. It is just silly (very cool don't get me wrong but silly). The HTML/XHTML should never contain any processing logic, it is a display language not a processing language. Just because Google does it doesn't make it right either LOL

I personally despise the big companies that insist on showing us "the cool stuff" that can be done as opposed to enforcing the most important part about programming. It has to be smart and sometimes it is smart to dumb things down.

HTML/XHTML are display languages for formatting data to be processed into human readable format. I mean you would never think about doing form variable validation in SQL would you? We just need to be clever when assessing things. As a network admin once said to me "Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should". We just getting to smart for ourselves

Point taken. I understand where you are going from... keep it simple yet functional type of thing

I'm not the type of person who throws in something just because I know it... I throw something only if I really need it, or if it helps my site be user-friendly or something.

I used to do that, but I like to think I stopped... if I still do, then, post in my review site section and tell me what I added that isn't needed...

Bogey the comment weren't direct at you specifically, if you learned your lesson then I applaude you Will give your sites a visit and give some feedback

I didn't take that comment to be directed at me specifically, just one in that list