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Post April 3rd, 2008, 2:34 pm

o.0 I was looking at it and I was like urrrm that sucks hahahah. Yeah those lawmakers suck lol :P
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 2:34 pm

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Post April 3rd, 2008, 2:36 pm

lawmakers rule.
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 2:36 pm

Not all of them...
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 3:16 pm

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Not to offend anyone here, but, if you are all so put off by the laws that are applied to you in your areas, then why don't you all become legislators? Or campaign against the people and parties you've found wanting (...and I mean going further than putting a lame bumper sticker on your car)? Or get involved with a political organization that pushes the issues important to you?

I don't assume to know what your current activities are, but surely proactive participation is far more constructive, realistic and intelligent than what amounts bar room grumblings - aka whining.

The power of any government is derived from the acceptance of the people being governed. Sitting around complaining and not taking any action is a form of acceptance, IMO.

Also, I'm compelled to point out that if you feel as though your life is devalued by bureaucratic stupidities, you might want to glance through a history book. I think you'll find that most of us in the western world really don't have it so very bad, in spite of our sometimes fumbling, often greedy, law makers.


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Nicely said. I'm bored of people complaining about things and you say to them, well did you write to your local member of parliament and they look like :shock:

Most people don't even know who their local member is who represents them in government. Go get educated already people thats what they are there for to take your thoughts to the big guys!!
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 3:18 pm

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But just recently they changed the rules so that the women can run even slower and lift less, whereas the men have to work harder to pass the physical. I'm not sure why they did it that way.


Not that it affects me, but the United States recently lowered their physical requirements to get into the Army. The Army. Not enough qualified people applying? Give them incentive, don't let in all the idiots.

Then again, I guess all they need is someone to carry out what they want with the least questions asked.
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 3:25 pm

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digitalMedia wrote:
Not to offend anyone here, but, if you are all so put off by the laws that are applied to you in your areas, then why don't you all become legislators? Or campaign against the people and parties you've found wanting (...and I mean going further than putting a lame bumper sticker on your car)? Or get involved with a political organization that pushes the issues important to you?

I don't assume to know what your current activities are, but surely proactive participation is far more constructive, realistic and intelligent than what amounts bar room grumblings - aka whining.

The power of any government is derived from the acceptance of the people being governed. Sitting around complaining and not taking any action is a form of acceptance, IMO.

Also, I'm compelled to point out that if you feel as though your life is devalued by bureaucratic stupidities, you might want to glance through a history book. I think you'll find that most of us in the western world really don't have it so very bad, in spite of our sometimes fumbling, often greedy, law makers.


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Nicely said. I'm bored of people complaining about things and you say to them, well did you write to your local member of parliament and they look like :shock:

Most people don't even know who their local member is who represents them in government. Go get educated already people thats what they are there for to take your thoughts to the big guys!!


I did, I just failed to get a reply on one occasion :P
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 3:58 pm

well write again and tell then you want them to write back!
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 5:04 pm

Don't waste your time writing lawmakers.

If you feel that strongly about it, go to law school, if after that you still feel strongly about it, you'll have the tools to get something done. :D
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 5:10 pm

aye but not everyone can go get a law degree. you can still have a voice without being one of the policy makers.

this is why there are elections, the people voice their opinion on who will represent them the best.

just my 2c of course but then we have a much more interactive government structure than the USA. here everyone must have a say at election time and everyone can freely access their local member of parliament to put forward ideas and opinions to government.
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 5:15 pm

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Why not ? :D
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Post April 3rd, 2008, 9:09 pm

Maybe Musik was thinking about Robin sharma, she doesn't want Penguin to end up selling his ferrari/ laptop.
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Post April 4th, 2008, 12:11 am

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Saying that I think The Uk has one of the most corrupt goverments on this god dam planet, But again thats just my opinion on the matter.

hahahahaha ... haha lol ... lmao ... Then you need to come anywhere to South-Africa or Zimbabwe for two weeks ... look at a place like Zimbabwe ... that place is corruption Central ... and then here in SA aswell ... You have no idea ...

But anyway, back to topic ... maybe the person saying "beer please love" is Gay, and that is the way he/she talks ... what type of lawsuit would that make, on the one side you have someone sue-ing for sexual-harassment, and on the other side you have a person sue-ing because of discrimination against gays ...

//I'm not saying that gay people talk like that, or that straight people don't ... This was just an example of where this could go horribly wrong
Let's leave all our *plum* where it is and go live in the jungle ...
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Post April 4th, 2008, 1:12 am

You do raise an interesting point DM.

Do you want to know what i think with regards to writing letters to MP's? A complete waste of time.

I can't and won't go into a great bit of detail here, but my father hs unfortunately discovered very VERY unfairly what loyalty and commitment means nothing to several government and public backed organisations. He is currently going through a very expensive legal situation which has no doubt cost him hundreds of thousands of pounds (i base that on legal fees and loss of income) because of some bastards who somehow managed to change the legal system in favour of themselves. I mean, if i ever could just tell you what it is and show you the evidence i don't think anyone here would believe how corrupt this whole system is.

Because the organisation in question is being funded by the tax payer with there (i imagine) severely high legal fees it was obviously a matter in which was brought up to several local MP's. Countless amounts of letters were sent all eventually coming to nothing. They just didn't care, the case in question was too big for them to deal with and by taking it up they would have not only lost out on that "big promotion" but they would have had to devote a considerable amount of time dealing with it.

It is an easy life for MP's here, and when Penguin was talking about the government here being "Corrupt" i don't think he was too far off from the truth. Before Gordon (not Gordan, Penguin) Brown became our Prime Minister through the back door (I certainly wouldn't have elected him, even if he is Scottish) there was numerous things going around telling everyone of things that he authorised and hid before becoming PM. I just don't like the guy, and while i feel so strongly about it i don't think there is anything i can really do other than discuss it wherever.

Now, if you've just skipped all of that then i wouldn't blame you. However there is just one more thing i'd like to bring up with regards to all of this. It may not seem it, but i don't lose sleep thinking about these sorts of things and to a certain extent most of the time i don't even care to think about it. One thing that does bother me most days and probably will until such time as things change is the fact that every single day I personally wake up and thinking about things i always fail to see any sign of it changing. As i mentioned previously, i don't trust any political party here in the UK other than (to an extent) the Scottish National Party. This is my only major gripe, i just don't see any positives coming from this for along time. To be honest, by default i almost feel as though i'm in favour of Scottish Independance so we break away from the United Kingdom and start a fresh with a government who actually gives a damn about the country it is governing.
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Post April 4th, 2008, 4:09 am

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To be honest, by default i almost feel as though i'm in favour of Scottish Independence so we break away from the United Kingdom and start a fresh with a government who actually gives a damn about the country it is governing.


Thanks for your thoughtful post, SB. Yes, I read the whole. :P

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"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."


I don't see how one can quantify and measure corruption in any government. Yet, even without a unit of measure, I believe that righteous_trespasser is correct in his allusion. For all it's slick, slimy, etc., stuff the governments of the western world pale in comparison in the illegality and sometimes brutality of less developed countries and some countries who have taken different paths of development.

I, for one, believe in democracy and a government based on constitutional/parlimentary law. My understanding of history tells me that it's the best thing going. Living in a democracy doesn't mean you always get your way. It doesn't mean your candidate/party always wins. It doesn't mean that what is common sense to you will be common sense to all. It's one of those double-edged swords. Perhaps I'm an optimistic fool, but again, the historical alternatives aren't really alternatives. The beauty about constitutional/parlimentary democracies is that they can be changed - in total and in parts.

As for an independent Scotland, I am not well versed in the current situation, however I do have some understanding of the historical one, mostly based on military history. The history seems to be fraught with peril.

I'm not sure I see how it could really work on a fundamental level. Would you need a passport to cross the border into England? Would you have your own military, intelligence and civil defenses? Would you have your own welfare and health care systems? Is the United Kingdom going to cordially hand over 1/3 of it's land mass and associated revenue? Imagine the impact a sovereign Scotland would have on Northern Ireland. Again, I just don't see how this would work.
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Post April 4th, 2008, 6:49 am

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well write again and tell then you want them to write back!


Musik the fact is it really does not matter how many times you write to them, most of the time they will just ignore you still.

As for getting a degree in " Law " yes It would be good. The only thing is I am tied down by alot of other courses that I want to be doing, thats if I dont join the army.

All I will say is - I want Tony.B back as PM :)
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