Not trying to be a jerk...

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but my god it annoys me when people post threads that have no discernible consistency in grammar or spelling. It's as if their cognitive thought process is being whipped in a blender before spilling out onto the forum. And there's a big difference here between people who don't natively speak english(I'm not discriminatory) and people who are just too lazy to write anything that's remotely decipherable. At least you can piece together the idea of what someone is trying to say in English who generally speaks a different language; at least they try (and usually succeed). Is it really so much to ask to have a subject and a predicate in a sentence?

Grrrrrrrr

Okay, I'm done ranting.
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First challenge - identifying if the person is a native English speaker or not.
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Actually in a general sense, most who use English as a secondary language get spelling right and grammar close enough for a native english speaker to interpret the rest.

m more rephring two da peepl who spll lik this.

Absolutely ridiculous, and that's as close a rendition as I can come up with, in reality these people do a far better job of making it worse.
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It actually violates our posting rules to use "chatspeak" here. We make every effort to catch those and warn the users.
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Second challenge: when you are making a post to complain about how people post in forums, be sure to use proper capitalization and punctuation and sentence structure as well.

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but my god it annoys me when people post threads that have no discernible...
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Actually that wasn't the beginning of his sentence. The sentence began in the subject and was continued in the body and "god" does not necessarily have to be capitalized.
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I know, I was just being a smart ass.

//its better to be a smart ass than a dumb ass!
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kc0tma wrote:
I know, I was just being a smart ass.

//its better to be a smart ass than a dumb ass!

lol


@mindfullsilence: I hear you... Most of the time, I just skip those posts and go on to something more understandable.
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Right on bogey, stick it to the man.

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Second challenge: when you are making a post to complain about how people post in forums, be sure to use proper capitalization and punctuation and sentence structure as well.


hahaha, funny.

ATNO, really the ozzu team does quite well with keping chat speak out of the forum. I'm more talking about when a sentence structure is completely reversed or is missing several vital pieces. I don't know, I was just cranky the other day and felt like venting. :|
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I'm guessing that most times the stuff you're talking about is the result of bots which take posts from other threads/forums and post an automated rewrite of the post.

If you look around the Internet for the phrases "copyscape passed" and "article rewriter" you'll find a lot of stuff about it. :)
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wow that's interesting. Never heard of such a program. What would be the purpose? Getting more pages cached by google?
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mindfullsilence, I don't want to be a jerk either... But come on! Don't criticize people about their grammar when you can't use one correctly either. The truth is non of us write perfectly. English is a second language for me and I only use it for roughly 6 years. Before that, I knew 0%... absolutely nothing (First language is Polish)
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mindfullsilence wrote:
wow that's interesting. Never heard of such a program. What would be the purpose? Getting more pages cached by google?


Some blog and site owners use it to increase the amount of content on their site, they're generally the ones worried about the phrase "copyscape passed".
On open discussion boards, the rewritten articles/posts are usually accompanied by links embedded into the post or signature links by someone looking for automated ways to get backlinks for search engines. They may be getting reposted by someone in India/China/etc, but chances are it's something automated.
Sometimes people use it to disguise "cookie stuffing".
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OmMEGGA wrote:
mindfullsilence, I don't want to be a jerk either... But come on! Don't criticize people about their grammar when you can't use one correctly either. The truth is non of us write perfectly. English is a second language for me and I only use it for roughly 6 years. Before that, I knew 0%... absolutely nothing (First language is Polish)


Actually if you reread the initial post, you'll see that mindfull has no real issues with people like yourself where English is not your native language. In fact, you quite supported his/her argument. What you posted was quite understandable and really very good for someone who does not speak or write English as their prime language.
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@OmMEGGA
Pretty much what ATNO said, here's my stance on people who speak English as a secondary language, quoted from my previous post:
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Actually in a general sense, most who use English as a secondary language get spelling right and grammar close enough for a native english speaker to interpret the rest.

Honestly you did just as I stated; spoke intelligently, with proper sentence structure, spelling, and grammar. What you said was very readable and understandable.

Again I haven't any issue with people who use English as their secondary language, they do great. It's people that speak English as their primary language and can't for the life of them understand that a sentence needs a noun and a verb.

What I do like about ozzu is that I rarely come across this.

An example of what I'm talking about; pulled off of a thread in a different forum website:
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This code of program calendar, but lacks some features? I mean, today we present a different color

Example: Monday, April 10, ten on the background changed color red

1 - there 4 line of code to add this features
2- any one can solution?

WHAT????!!!! :D
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1. Go to YouTube.
2. Select a video. Any video.
3. Read comments.
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hahaha, no kiddin.
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I see. Just don't get me wrong. LOL I totally understand you. :-)
To some degree, I think it's laziness or maybe trying to be cool... especially on MySpace. I can't understand a word what some people write. It's amazing how their brains work. I myself use abbreviations but only when I text with my Girlfriend. Lets say u = you , k = OK, aight = alright, you know what I mean. But when people use this on forums, it really irritates me too. I go APE $HIT sometimes. LOL

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