Several Anti-Virus Products Tested with Shocking Results

  • grinch2171
  • Moderator
  • Genius
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Feb 11, 2004
  • Posts: 6744
  • Loc: Martinsburg, WV
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 9:29 am

http://www.csoonline.com/article/493119 ... 2009-05-21

Very interesting indeed. Those of you that are loyal to one Anti-Virus may want to change products after viewing the results. Personally I don't use any Anti-virus software on my home machines but I am reckless and wild like that :D
‎"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." Maj. Gen. James Mattis
  • Anonymous
  • Bot
  • No Avatar
  • Joined: 25 Feb 2008
  • Posts: ?
  • Loc: Ozzuland
  • Status: Online

Post May 21st, 2009, 9:29 am

  • ATNO/TW
  • Super Moderator
  • Super Moderator
  • User avatar
  • Joined: May 28, 2003
  • Posts: 23407
  • Loc: Woodbridge VA
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 9:50 am

Man, AVG was pitiful. Some of those were quite surprising. Not at all what I expected. Avast was much much better than what I anticipated. Great link. Thanks.
"There's no place like 127.0.0.1 except for ::1."
Alexandria Networks. Leader in IT consulting for associations/non-profits, and small to medium sized businesses around the northern Virginia and Washington D.C. metro area.
  • digitalMedia
  • a.k.a. dM
  • Genius
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Dec 29, 2003
  • Posts: 5169
  • Loc: SC-USA
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 10:41 am

Holy Cow! In a way I feel somewhat vindicated. For years I've been saying to people, "Don't trust anti-virus programs. They slow down your processes and are unreliable because they tend to be purely reactionary. The best protection is good browsing habits."

Like the grinch-man, I don't use anti-virus software and haven't for years. I've never had a machine that had to be taken down for viruses (knock on wood).
- dM
  • graphixboy
  • Control + Z
  • Mastermind
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Jul 11, 2005
  • Posts: 1828
  • Loc: In the Great White North
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 10:50 am

Yeah I guess I'm going to stop using AVG and find something else. Although I have to say I liked the price...
If at first you don't succeed F1... If that doesn't work try Google!
//// Designer, Developer & Teacher - Interactive, Motion and 3D \\\\
Portfolio at WhenImNotSleeping.com
  • ATNO/TW
  • Super Moderator
  • Super Moderator
  • User avatar
  • Joined: May 28, 2003
  • Posts: 23407
  • Loc: Woodbridge VA
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 10:52 am

I use Symantec enterprise at work and at home. Honestly, though I'm like you guys. Don't really need it based on "good browsing habits" however, if attacks like Gumblar continue to increase, downloading what you expect to be a legitimate pdf or Flash file could be enough to put your computer at risk.

Quote:
The attack, which has intensified in recent days, can be found on several thousand legitimate Web sites, according to security experts. It targets known flaws in Adobe's software and uses them to install a malicious program on victims' machines, CERT said.


I think professionals well acquainted with the internet and vulnerabilities are much less at risk then clueless home users (especially those with kids who will click on virtually anything). However, I don't think even the safest surfer is totally immune anymore. About a year ago I recall clicking on what I believed was a safe link from a Google search and got nailed so fast, my anti virus was shut down before it could react and it took me a solid day to get rid of all the crap that was instantly installed. Fortunately I knew enough to disconnect the Network connection immediately or it could have been much worse as it had already established a remote connection with the malicious server.
"There's no place like 127.0.0.1 except for ::1."
Alexandria Networks. Leader in IT consulting for associations/non-profits, and small to medium sized businesses around the northern Virginia and Washington D.C. metro area.
  • joebert
  • Sledgehammer
  • Genius
  • No Avatar
  • Joined: Feb 10, 2004
  • Posts: 13458
  • Loc: Florida
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 10:57 am

All I know is that I was able to better use my computers when I quit running and worrying about anti-virus software and just used the computers correctly and with a little common sense.
Strong with this one, the sudo is.
  • graphixboy
  • Control + Z
  • Mastermind
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Jul 11, 2005
  • Posts: 1828
  • Loc: In the Great White North
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 11:25 am

joebert wrote:
All I know is that I was able to better use my computers when I quit running and worrying about anti-virus software and just used the computers correctly and with a little common sense.


If only I was the only one who used my computer...
  • Bigwebmaster
  • Site Admin
  • Site Admin
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Dec 20, 2002
  • Posts: 8934
  • Loc: Seattle, WA & Phoenix, AZ
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 11:25 am

I am also in the group that does not use any antivirus program. I haven't for 10 years and have been fine because I feel as long as you are competant in what you are doing and have safe browsing habits you will be fine. Two reasons I don't use one is because I feel its a waste of money for me to buy one, and second they consume uneeded resources and time that I would rather have myself. I think those programs are best for those who have unsafe browsing habits, are not experienced enough with how the internet works, or who are not able to identify what is real or isn't (such as popups from websites that say they have 1000 viruses on their computer and they need to download their malware to make things better).

I still remember in the past when making an appointment with Comcast (one of their connections outside was causing issues) they informed me that I must have an antivirus program on the computer before the technician looks into your internet connection problems. I was tempted to explain to her why its not needed, but instead just said "sure, no problem". A large percentage of users probably do need that on their computers (including some of my relatives).
Ozzu Hosting - Want your website on a fast server like Ozzu?
  • joebert
  • Sledgehammer
  • Genius
  • No Avatar
  • Joined: Feb 10, 2004
  • Posts: 13458
  • Loc: Florida
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 12:04 pm

You know, I bet active scanning types of anti-virus software don't seem like such of a performance hit these days. I remember my first computers with 300-600 MHz processors and 32-128 Mb of memory would slow to a crawl when I tried using anti-virus software.

Even the first laptop I quit using anti-virus software with was kinda slow with a 1.3 GHz processor and 256 Mb of memory. It came with Norton when I bought it and I remember having been around here at Ozzu for awhile feeling a little safer just getting rid of Norton when the subscription expired. It had been ages since Norton did anything for me anyways.

graphixboy wrote:
If only I was the only one who used my computer...


It's a truely wonderful thing. :D
Strong with this one, the sudo is.
  • SpooF
  • ٩๏̯͡๏۶
  • Bronze Member
  • User avatar
  • Joined: May 22, 2004
  • Posts: 3415
  • Loc: Richland, WA
  • Status: Offline

Post May 21st, 2009, 12:13 pm

For a while I never had an anti-virus, but then when I went to school they require it for a while to be able to gain access to the internet. However, they started to run into problems with cisco clean access agent and not allowing people to connect to the internet even if they did have an anti virus . After that they removed the restriction. I kept the anti virus anyways because I figured if I was on a "public" network of that scale someone was bound to screw up. Which someone did, about finals week, first semester internet was up about 20% of the time. After we got back from break internet was up for almost everyone except a few people that had a virus that spread accost the network. Almost all of which didn't have an anti virus.
#define NULL (::rand() % 2)
  • George L.
  • Bronze Member
  • Bronze Member
  • No Avatar
  • Joined: Nov 05, 2007
  • Posts: 2206
  • Loc: Malaysia
  • Status: Offline

Post May 24th, 2009, 6:15 am

Thanks for the link and comments.
  • dyfrin
  • Proficient
  • Proficient
  • User avatar
  • Joined: May 10, 2006
  • Posts: 499
  • Loc: WI
  • Status: Offline

Post May 27th, 2009, 9:17 am

That test wasn't thorough enough but I still stand behind trend officescan and avast.
dyfrin.com
  • grinch2171
  • Moderator
  • Genius
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Feb 11, 2004
  • Posts: 6744
  • Loc: Martinsburg, WV
  • Status: Offline

Post May 27th, 2009, 10:14 am

How was it not thorough enough?
‎"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." Maj. Gen. James Mattis
  • kc0tma
  • o|||||||o
  • Web Master
  • User avatar
  • Joined: Jul 20, 2007
  • Posts: 3318
  • Loc: Trout Creek, MT
  • Status: Offline

Post May 27th, 2009, 11:27 am

I kind of wish they would have tested Antivir, I've used that in the past and am curious how they say it ranks against others. My old job, we had Symantec Enterprise but we just weren't happy with it at all. That one did seem to slow everything down during scans. We wound up switching to TrendMicro because of the speed increase and because we were able to integrate it with our Watchguard firewalls for a gateway antivirus and the spam filter worked a whole lot better.
Like Mr Spork, I also write about my interest in alcoholic beverages.
  • Adela
  • Born
  • Born
  • No Avatar
  • Joined: Dec 01, 2008
  • Posts: 1
  • Status: Offline

Post June 10th, 2009, 9:06 am

Hello SYNO/TW, joebert, and kcOtma, and thank you (and all the others) for the most useful comments on the also useful link analyzing AVs.

But I write you 3 to ask for your permission to use your good and clever signatures as I show them below? However, SYNO/tw, why "dominatrix"? Could I change it to read: "dominator/dominatrix"? Thanks.

I haven't had the chance to write my signature, but it will probably be this one (among many others I have in the same vein) at the end of this reply. :)
___________________________________________

"The web is a dominatrix. Every where I turn, I see little buttons ordering me to Submit." SYNO/TW, of http://www.ozzu.com/

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but the whining wheel gets replaced. joebert, of http://www.ozzu.com/

I have a blog, I'm so ashamed. I can't believe I gave in to the trendy side of the internet. At least I'm not on facebook or twitter! kcOtma, of http://www.ozzu.com/
____________________________________________

The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men. Pulitzer Prize Winner Alice Walker "The Color Purple"
  • Anonymous
  • Bot
  • No Avatar
  • Joined: 25 Feb 2008
  • Posts: ?
  • Loc: Ozzuland
  • Status: Online

Post June 10th, 2009, 9:06 am

Post Information

  • Total Posts in this topic: 17 posts
  • Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 96 guests
  • You cannot post new topics in this forum
  • You cannot reply to topics in this forum
  • You cannot edit your posts in this forum
  • You cannot delete your posts in this forum
  • You cannot post attachments in this forum
 
 

© 2011 Unmelted, LLC. Ozzu® is a registered trademark of Unmelted, LLC.