"a" or "an"

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Interesting question - would it be "a hawaiian party" or "an hawaiian party" ... we're writing an invite and we're not sure ...
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Use the one that leaves your mouth and tongue in the best position to start saying the next word.
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I think saying "an" would be proper english, but I've never heard anyone ever actually heard anyone say it before except for hoity toity people on tv. If you use "a" nobody will scrutinize you for it.

By the way, its nice to see you're alive R_T! I figured you were probably drunk and passed out in a gutter all these months.
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Since the H is silent "an hawaiian party" is correct
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Since the H is silent "an hawaiian party" is correct


The H is silent? since when?

I am quite interested in hearing how you say Hawaiian now.
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Like I said, use whatever leaves your mouth right. Chances are the people receiving your invitations are going to have the same accent as you, right ? :)

The H isn't silent where I'm from. You try to pronounce it without there H here and someone might think you're talking about a bottle of wine.
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In a news article from the AP...

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President Barack Obama ended a Hawaiian vacation to return Monday to the Washington he never really escaped.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 9614.story

//it should be noted that examples of both ("a", "an") can be found.
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But then there's this...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_a_Hawai ... &src=ansTT

I pronounce the H, too. Maybe that should be the determining factor.
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Is an hawalian party.
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By the way, its nice to see you're alive R_T! I figured you were probably drunk and passed out in a gutter all these months.


I have been pretty drinked and *cough* smoked up the last while ... I actually bought two foosball tables and have been spending a lot of time on that aswell ... I've become pretty adept at it ...

This is quite a tough one for me ... "an" says a bit easier, but neither really sound correct ... I think I am going to use "an" though ...

Thanks for all the replies ...
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So, are we all intvited to the Hawaiian themes foosball party?
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Having been there twice, I can assure you Somoan natives pronounce the 'H' as well. That makes 'a' the correct choice here.
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Having been there twice, I can assure you Somoan natives pronounce the 'H' as well. That makes 'a' the correct choice here.

I hear what you're saying ... but I have been listening to the people around me speak, and even though they think they do, they do not pronounce the H. So for me here in SA it would make sense to use the "an".
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It's A HAWAIIAN!!!!!


Since when H is among vocals???? How canit be an?

You do not go to Awaii on vacation, do you?
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Well lol

Its not a huh "awaiian party", thats how it exits my mouth anyway....:mrgreen:

I can't explain it...

..An Hawaiian party"

I always thought silent was only in 'Honour'!
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Try saying "A hour". As in, "I'm getting off work in A HOUR." Now that's just plain unatural. :)
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So we're saying it's good and proper to swap grammar rules depending on pronunciation? eek. Something tells me that if I so choose to mispronounce a word back in my school days and then swapped around grammar to suit, it wouldn't fly with any of the professors.
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How do you pronounce "hamburger" there? Is it typically a or an?
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So we're saying it's good and proper to swap grammar rules depending on pronunciation? eek. Something tells me that if I so choose to mispronounce a word back in my school days and then swapped around grammar to suit, it wouldn't fly with any of the professors.


But, isn't it proper grammar to use "an" before a soft "h" and "a" before a hard "h". And, don't pronounciations vary with dialects/accents?

I mean which English speaking culture doesn't have it's own unique way of murdering the language. :lol:
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up here with yankee accent its Hawaii not Awaii.

We also say Roof not Rooooof though.
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We also say Roof not Rooooof though.


Here, it's 'Ruf' as in Rufus. Winders (the things you see through in your walls), Pillers(the things you rest your head on while you sleep), and short-legged britches (shorts) are a few deep-South pronunciations I could do without, though.
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...deep-South pronunciations I could do without, though.


Ha! You mean like people who say "God" with three syllables?
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I'd like to hear god with three syllables.

Its interesting dM, in your post above you said a hard "h" with an "a" and not an "an" for the hard "h".
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Ha! You mean like people who say "God" with three syllables?


Indeed.
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I'd like to hear god with three syllables.

Its interesting dM, in your post above you said a hard "h" with an "a" and not an "an" for the hard "h".


Gaw-uh-duh! :)

I'm not sure what you meant in the second part.
A Hamburger. An Hour.
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Meant that for r_t, sorry. Should have quoted.
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I'm not sure what you meant in the second part.
A Hamburger. An Hour.
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You you typed the words "a hard H" you used "a", so if someone reads your post out loud they say "a hard" rather than "an hard".
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Enunciation and Pronunciation are not the same beast. Pronunciation does affect this grammar rule since its based on a word's phonetic "first" letter. The general rule is that any word starting with a consonant should be preceded with the "a" while words beginning with a vowel should be preceded by "an".

The two examples would be: A Hawaiian (huh-wahy-uhn) vs. An honorable (on-er-uh-buhl) person...

From the Purdue Style Guide
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graphixboy wrote:
Enunciation and Pronunciation are not the same beast. Pronunciation does affect this grammar rule since its based on a word's phonetic "first" letter. The general rule is that any word starting with a consonant should be preceded with the "a" while words beginning with a vowel should be preceded by "an".

The two examples would be: A Hawaiian (huh-wahy-uhn) vs. An honorable (on-er-uh-buhl) person...

From the Purdue Style Guide


Yep, I agree here, but what r_t is stating is that in South Africa, it's commonly pronounced as a silent H. Didn't accept that that's the native pronunciation, either. So, I think the issue lies more in the adaptation than anything.
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How about instead of a or an Hawaiian party, he could just call it THE Hawaiian party. Of the century. Be there, or be square.
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