Why don't they just outlaw smoking?

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The governments here have been tip toeing around the subject for the last few years, why don't they just simply outlaw smoking? Of course, when i type this i am really asking a rhetorical question as i know why they wouldn't.

It's getting to the point though where everything is being done to make it impossible for smokers to smoke, so why bother enforcing all these silly laws and changing things like this?

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It would be more effective to crack down on deceptive advertising across the board. That's what does it.
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I once heard that, by not letting, banning smoking publicly will make smokers desire more to do so. They just got to show off their macho image.
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I once heard that, by not letting, banning smoking publicly will make smokers desire more to do so. They just got to show off their macho image.


Actually you have no idea how hard this is on habitual smokers. I've been trying to quit for 6 months now. I've made progress and smoke less than half of what I did six months ago, but what makes it difficult is primarily the nicotine addiction, but also the fact that I actually enjoyed it for a long time. Not to mention it helps relieve some of the stress I've been going through the last year. The "macho image" thing never occurred to me - ever.

I decided to quit for two reasons - cost, and the fact that it's becoming increasingly more and more difficult to find a nice public place to relax and enjoy a good smoke. I remember the days when it was a relaxing pleasure to smoke a good cigar while sipping some quality brandy, and I wasn't alone in the bar doing it.

Now if you can find a bar to smoke in, you can't smoke pipes or cigars.
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Thanks for telling me that, of course my oppinion was wrong. You helped me to see what exactly is happening to an addicted smoker, and in my place, there are still dozens of pubs and bars allow smoking. So I was just unaware about your situation in your place, and sorry if I offended.
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I decided to quit for two reasons - cost, and the fact that it's becoming increasingly more and more difficult to find a nice public place to relax and enjoy a good smoke.


You know, in a certain light one might assume that means all of this outlawing stuff is actually working.
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I see the macho image more of the reason why people start, at least a lot of high school students.
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. I remember the days when it was a relaxing pleasure to smoke a good cigar while sipping some quality brandy, and I wasn't alone in the bar doing it.


A1 to that :!: I'm a smoker who wishes to give up (eventually :roll:) and I supported the ban on smoking but I really miss dining out and ending the meal with a brandy/coffee and cigar. It's probably the only time I truly miss smoking whilst out and about.
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I see the macho image more of the reason why people start, at least a lot of high school students.


I'd started because I didn't want to feel left out.
I was the kid who when asked if they'd jump off the Skyway Bridge when they saw everyone else doing it would [want to] answer somthing along the lines of
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Sure, if everyone else was doing it. I don't want to be the only one here nursing survivors back to health.
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I think the macho thing is a bit outdated. Nowadays it is more peer pressure and trying to fit in.
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They will never outlaw smoking completely, simply because every government in the world is reaping the benefits from cigarette sales.


I'm sure the added burden on health care systems negates any benefit a government body would be getting.

There's a reason life insurance/etc costs more for smokers.
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If they didn't why have they not banned smoking completely when they know its so bad for people?


Cocaine & Marijuana are banned in the United States.
I just saw a story on the local news this morning about a rental SUV that ran from the police and ended up crashing.

The driver of the SUV is charged with armed cocaine distribution, possession of marijuana, fleeing/evading, & a whole list of other charges once of which was driving with a suspended license.

Care to make a guess why the driver was running from the police & endangering the lives of everyone around them in the first place ?
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After reading all this, I sure could use a cigarette.

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grinch2171 wrote:
I think the macho thing is a bit outdated. Nowadays it is more peer pressure and trying to fit in.


I think this is true, Before the age of smoking went to the age of 18 in the UK I used to smoke. The thought of smoking really did not come into my mind until I noticed all my friends was smoking. I remember going to collage and all my friends was stood outside smoking ( I was the only one that was not)

I felt that for some reason I just did not fit in with these guys, And of course one day one of them said " Do you want one " not wanting to look like a complete fool I said yes.

So what you said is right, It's nothing to do with being " Macho " It is the pressure of fellow peers.

Fires caused by smoking make up 10% of accidental dwelling-fires. They killed more than 2,000 people, equivalent to a third of all fire fatalities, and caused 20,000 injuries over the last 10 years.
In 1998 alone, smokers’ materials started 5,500 fires, causing one in every five injuries from fire in the home. Smokers’ materials (cigarettes, pipes) cause 75% of all smoking-related fires. Matches and lighters start the rest.

That alone would be a great reason to stop the smoking ban, But also the goverment will not stop it becuase thats another way they get all their " Tax money "
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Smoking age went up to 18? is that all over the UK or just England and Wales? I was sure it was still 16 here in Scotland. Not that it really concerns me to know for sure.
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Well its 18 in the Uk, I thought Scotland was to?
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We have alot of different laws up here. It wouldn't surprise me if this was one that never changed, but in saying this we introduced the Smoking ban in public places a year before it was introduced in England, so i'd be surprised if the age of smoking didn't go up at the same time.
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Money. Why should they want to outlaw a cash cow? They're raking in far too much revenue from increased taxes.

We ARE talking about a government (esp. CONGRESS) that thinks increased deficit spending can fix an ailing economy, after all.
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It's 18 here too. And I hate it when my neighbor smokes, the air literally looms into my house and I get to be passive smoker, :banghead:
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it was 16 here in SA and recently (last year) it moved up to 18, but law enforcement here isn't very tight so 16yo people can still get away with buying smokes ... I have been smoking for four years roughly btw ...
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I just got back from Las Vegas last night and it was great:

Walk through the hotel's, lite one up.
Walk through the casino's, lite one up.
Walk down the street, lite one up (and drink yoru beverage of choice).

It's once again, people trying to push themselves into your life.
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wait hang on here why would the goverment would want to ban smoking really, how many millions of dollors do they get in tax from the people paying for death but don't get me wrong they have a lot of my money i can tell u now.
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That's true, the less people smoke, the less monety they get from the taxes, the more they tax everybody!
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Just read some of the news today, selling cigarette's under the counters of shops.

In the hope that its less noticable to the public, Hopefully reducing the amount of people that smoke.

I am intrested to see what happens.
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the asians have shotty deals if u know how to ask them. tax free sigs. for like half the price
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the asians have shotty deals if u know how to ask them. tax free sigs. for like half the price


Tax free isnt this illegal?
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Of course it is. You are stealing from the government by not paying any tax on the items they choose to tax.
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So those " asians " that are doing that should be arrested.
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They should be.
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But saying that, They never will be :(

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