2 women lie about being raped. ( UPDATED > COURT OUTCOME)

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I was reading the paper in my local area and came across This!

I was shocked that someone could be as evil and stupid to make up lies of this nature. Not only was this a complete waste of police time and pure attention seeking. Dont you think it would make people who have been raped less confident to speak to the police.

No fines or punishment have been given to these two women. What do you think about this?
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You've got alot to learn bud.
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Would you like to explain on that last comment.
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It's unexplainable.
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And why is that.
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It's like trying to explain why you shouldn't grab a hot pot handle. I could tell you that it hurts, but untill you've grabbed it yourself you really don't know what I'm talking about.

By just telling you that you have alot to learn, hopefully you decide to use caution with the subject from now on. ;)
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why should I use caution with this subject? Its in the papers and I was just posting this to see what people thought.

Have you took offence or do you disagree with this thread?
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No offence at all.

Sorry I can't explain it any better.
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I think that joebert was commenting on the stupidity of people and their behavior, not in regards to what you've said.

It's pretty much how I saw it when I saw this thread. I was just thinking to myself 'yeah this is pretty ridiculous, but it doesn't surprise me in the least'

At least that's how I interpreted his comment.
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That is a sticky subject. I personally think they ought to be fined for making their false allegations. Make the amount of the fines equal to the police man-hours they wasted.

I don't see why this would make other women hesitate to come forward with real allegations. Why let a couple of crazy lying hobags keep you from getting the help you need and/or getting the scumbags who victimized you off the streets?

BTW, penguin, it looks like one of them was ordered to pay a little something in costs. Not sure what it covered.
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must of missed the costs bit, I think its sick what they did.
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must of missed the costs bit, I think its sick what they did.


Absolutely. It's a crime (fraud at the very least, don't you think?), and ought to be prosecuted.

About the costs, I almost missed it too. It was on another report linked to the one you posted.
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ah right, and yes I do think they should be prosecuted.
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joebert wrote:
It's like trying to explain why you shouldn't grab a hot pot handle. I could tell you that it hurts, but untill you've grabbed it yourself you really don't know what I'm talking about.

By just telling you that you have alot to learn, hopefully you decide to use caution with the subject from now on. ;)


This is perhaps the most perfectly worded post i've read on Ozzu in quite a long time.
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SB wrote:
joebert wrote:
It's like trying to explain why you shouldn't grab a hot pot handle. I could tell you that it hurts, but untill you've grabbed it yourself you really don't know what I'm talking about.

By just telling you that you have alot to learn, hopefully you decide to use caution with the subject from now on. ;)


This is perhaps the most perfectly worded post i've read on Ozzu in quite a long time.


Why does it not supprise me you would say that.
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The solution is simple. Take these girls into a mens prison and let the prisoners have 24 hours to do anything they want with them.

"If you do the crime you gotta do the time" works both ways: "If you make some man do the time, he should be allowed to do the crime"
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I like your idea :P
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penguin wrote:
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joebert wrote:
It's like trying to explain why you shouldn't grab a hot pot handle. I could tell you that it hurts, but untill you've grabbed it yourself you really don't know what I'm talking about.

By just telling you that you have alot to learn, hopefully you decide to use caution with the subject from now on. ;)


This is perhaps the most perfectly worded post i've read on Ozzu in quite a long time.


Why does it not supprise me you would say that.


What exactly did you mean by this?
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I just realized I had this thread open & suddely had a craving for popcorn soon after, now I'm sitting here with a bowl of popcorn wondering if I should make a post with nothing but the words "attention whores" to see who thinks I'm being rude, who asks why I think these women are attention whores, and whatever else happens.
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SB wrote:

What exactly did you mean by this?


I think I will do joeberts tactic and say " I cant explain " :P
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penguin wrote:
SB wrote:

What exactly did you mean by this?


I think I will do joeberts tactic and say " I cant explain " :P


I don't think you realise how silly you seem right now. I sort of pity you.
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SB, My commet was not supposed to me immature, I just cant be bothered going into it. Just forget it ever said anything.
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Suddenly, this thread reinforces a memory I have with my first girlfriend. She said " I want you to rape me ".

and I...
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Suddenly, this thread reinforces a memory I have with my first girlfriend. She said " I want you to rape me ".

and I...

WTF!??!!? ...
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WTF!!! lol dude thats errr... Well I will keep my comments to myself lol :P
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righteous_trespasser wrote:
George L. wrote:
Suddenly, this thread reinforces a memory I have with my first girlfriend. She said " I want you to rape me ".

and I...

WTF!??!!? ...


Some chicks are into this, I can think of one I dated..... :P
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jflynn wrote:
righteous_trespasser wrote:
George L. wrote:
Suddenly, this thread reinforces a memory I have with my first girlfriend. She said " I want you to rape me ".

and I...

WTF!??!!? ...


Some chicks are into this, I can think of one I dated..... :P

Are you serious ... ?? damn ... okay ... I don't know people like this ...
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jflynn, yeah.. it's kinda dangerous.
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There are indeed women out there that like to get roughed up during sex. It is a bit odd if you aren't into it as well.
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It is my concerted opinion that Joebert’s reply was a far more concise way to emphasize the burden of youth when applied to mature subject matters. Such comments tend to emphasize the naiveté of the individual speaking with respect to an utter lack of experience with the reality of adult existence. In reference to that, with age (we hope) comes wisdom and thusly a comprehensible understanding of the inherent human condition.
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rape is a tricky tricky subject, for many reasons. one is that women are often shamed and terrified after being assaulted sexually (I mean the ones that really do get assaulted), and it leaves severe trauma. I've experienced a very very mild case of sexual assault - nothing near rape - and it left me absolutely shaken - I was uneasy about walking outside alone for a while. I don't know if a guy can imagine that sort of fear, where you literally are afraid of walking down the street, and jump every time someone turns in your direction.

also sexual assault is infinitely embarrassing, and many victims find it easier to shut up about it than to go through the shame of telling the grueling story again and again to the police, the lawyers, the court...... and being told that they're lying, that they led the guy on, that they really wanted it to happen.... insult to injury, you know.

on the other hand, one of the vicious turns of modern society is this bloody pc business, where suddenly women can do no wrong, and crying 'sexual harassment!' is a cheap way to get back at a guy for stealing your parking space, eating your pretzel or just being annoying. A sexual harassment charge is almost impossible to defend against these days, and even if you're found innocent the dirt sticks. and i despise women who scream 'harassment' for every slightly racy joke or an 'improper look', whatever the heck that may be. and don't even get me started on third-party sexual harassment. that's almost as stupid as preemptive defense.

now why someone would say they were raped when they weren't is beyond me..... I confess I can't be bothered reading the article, so I've no idea why the two of them did it. but it is not only pathetic and ridiculous, it is also extremely harmful to other women (who are less likely to be believed by cops who have had experience of women making up stories like this) and generally just...... sick really.

people do the strangest things sometimes.

ps somewhat relatedly - lots of women like men to be slightly aggressive during sex, and like to feel overpowered. but that again is a very dangerous game to play, because it can turn sour quite easily. you really need to trust someone, and know that they'd never really hurt you.
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ps somewhat relatedly - lots of women like men to be slightly aggressive during sex, and like to feel overpowered. but that again is a very dangerous game to play, because it can turn sour quite easily. you really need to trust someone, and know that they'd never really hurt you.


I haven't been this confused since the blind janitor installed the new brail signs on the public restrooms. :scratchhead:
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hahahahahha! it all really makes sense you see. being pinned against the wall by someone you're in a relationship with can be hot. being pinned against the wall by a total stranger is really frikkin scary.

now beyond that, one plays it by ear....
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Thank you for your insights, celandine.
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http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/displayN ... eId=151458

She was very lucky. Read this and tell us what you think.
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send her to jail....
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Thats what I was hoping would happen. She is so lucky.
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joebert wrote:
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ps somewhat relatedly - lots of women like men to be slightly aggressive during sex, and like to feel overpowered. but that again is a very dangerous game to play, because it can turn sour quite easily. you really need to trust someone, and know that they'd never really hurt you.


I haven't been this confused since the blind janitor installed the new brail signs on the public restrooms. :scratchhead:


If a woman wants it rough, who's to say she can't go to the police and show them the bruises and scratches and say she was raped?
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Abstinence is the only way for real.
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Unemployed Beasley was given a one-year supervision order, 150 hours' unpaid work and must pay £329 compensation to the police forensic science service for wasted tests.


At least she didn't totally get away with it.
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Yeah I guess. I just think for the amount of time wasted that a 3-6 month prison sentence would have been better. :)
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Yeah I guess. I just think for the amount of time wasted that a 3-6 month prison sentence would have been better. :)

But wouldn't that cost the taxpayers money? :scratchhead:
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It will have cost the taxpayers money on the amount of time and resources wasted any way.
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This whole raped/not raped thing reminds me of this movie I saw once. I can't remember the title, "Wild" something I think, it had Denise Richards and Neve Campbell. If I remember right, doing a google search for that might be a NSFW thing to do.

But the basic story was: this rich girl was pissed off at her parents, the same as with this poor girl. And their guidance counselor at their school helped them hatch this plan for the two of them to say he raped them, and somehow all three of them would get rich quick when they came clean in the courtroom and admitted they were lying about him raping them. I don't remember exactly how their scheme worked.

EDIT: I remember the name of the movie...it's Wild Things.
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yer i agree with penguin it is just a waste of time and money she is very luckly to escape a jail sentence.

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