Getting unbanned

December 11th, 2005, 12:24 pm

I have a really big problem.
At first I thought that I was still in the sandbox, but it's taking too long to see my site on G. My obvious conclusion is that my site is banned.
Right after launching it, I started submitting to free directories in order to get backlinks. Some of them required a link back, so I didn't give it much thought at the time. I later discovered that one of those, which sat right on my homepage, had PR 0 and was nowhere on G. The link was pointing to a banned site.
I found out that my domain name was used before but it was just parked at godaddy so I don't see any reason for it to be banned before ( http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lolhome.com )

MSN and Yahoo have both crawled and indexed it months ago and I have no problems with them.

My stats say that GoogleBot is sniffing around almost daily.

So the question would be what should I do to get unbanned? It's not just the absence in G that is bothering me; I can't get anyone to exchange links with (I have 0 PR).
Would it be a good idea to send them an email? What are the chances of getting a reply?
Hope I provided all the necessary information.

December 11th, 2005, 12:43 pm

I had a similar experience with a website that I owned for 3 years and then let go when my mom developed cancer. At the time I let the site go it was high in the search engines for the keywords "website promotion" "web design", etc.

2-3 years later I again purchased the site and started over. I didn't realize that a spam company had grabbed the domain and kept it for a year. Needless to say, whatever I did I was going nowhere with Google.

Finally, I simply sent them an email message explaining the problem and believe it or not within 5 days I was on page 1 of my chosen keywords. It's worth taking a chance and contacting them directly through this URL:
http://www.google.com/support/bin/request.py

Good Luck!


Staci

[vetofunk]

December 11th, 2005, 6:35 pm

Before you submit a request (if you were banned)...make sure any thing black hat you may have been doing, you have stopped. If you haven't changed anything, I don't see why they would let you back in.

December 12th, 2005, 1:27 pm

Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it.
I haven't used any black hat seo. The only reason I could find was that link, which was removed months ago.
I received an automated reply after writing my problem at that link which asked me once again if I have read all the info on Goolge's help pages. Subsequently I replied to their automated response with the same message and hopefuly a real human will read it.
Thanks again.

December 12th, 2005, 5:01 pm

alecs wrote:

At first I thought that I was still in the sandbox...

The "sandbox" is for certain keywords in certain industries, I doubt "funny
images" is one of those industries.

Quote:

My obvious conclusion is that my site is banned.

I think you've been led astray or that you have misunderstood what you have
been reading.

Your site is not indexed, but for a site only four months old, that does not
mean "ban".

Quote:

My stats say that GoogleBot is sniffing around almost daily.

Do you really think Googlebot visits banned sites daily?

Quote:

So the question would be what should I do to get unbanned?

Well, I could be wrong, but I think the question is what's wrong with your
homepage that prevents Google from indexing it?


<meta http-equiv="Content-Type-PRAGMA" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; no-cache" />

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />

Are both of those tags on all your pages?


I'm no expert with xhtml and I know nothing about rss feeds, but I think
you should look again at the code on your page. I think something there
is "putting off" Google.


just my thoughts.
Bompa

December 13th, 2005, 12:47 am

Quote:

<meta name="robots" content="index,follow" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type-PRAGMA" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; no-cache" />
<meta name="revisit-after" content="4" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />

All of the tags above can be found on all my pages. I don't have any robots.txt file that could stop Googlebot either.
Isn't the 'sandbox' applied to all websites? I thought it was an initiation period for new websites causing them to rank lower than others just because they are new on the net.
All my other sites got into the SERPs in less than a month so I don't see a logical explanation for this one taking more than 5 months except that it is banned.

And why shouldn't G visit banned sites? Doesn't it follow links from other pages pointing to yours?

December 13th, 2005, 4:28 pm

First I though delete revisit-after tag becuase your could be telling Google not to spider your site for 4 years.

But sorry chap it looks bleeker than that.

Your site is 100% banned (PR0, no back links or site). Get yourself a new URL and webspace as there is no way back from this.

December 14th, 2005, 1:20 am

Johan007 wrote:

First I though delete revisit-after tag becuase your could be telling Google not to spider your site for 4 years.

But sorry chap it looks bleeker than that.

Well, I don't know. It's my opinion that something other than a ban is
keeping Google from indexing alec's site. It could be the revist after 4, Johan
could be right. I thought that was odd too.


If you got banned in less than five months with a white hat site, you may
have set a record.

Johan007 wrote:

Your site is 100% banned (PR0, no back links or site). Get yourself a new URL and webspace as there is no way back from this.

PR0 is not totally unheard of for a site under five months, imo.


Anyways, if you really think you are banned, google for 'google reinclusion',
cuz there is a procedure to get back into the serps.

But, speaking of getting "back into serps", was lolhome.com ever indexed
by google?


One more thing to keep in mind, your title "laugh out loud" returns about 9 million results, dats alotta bananas.

The #1 site with Google has over 8,000 backlinks showing with Yahoo,
compared to your 100 showing with yahoo.

I don't know, but I would remove the revisit tag and submit to Google's
add url page before doing anything more drastic.


Bompa

December 14th, 2005, 7:20 am

No Bompa I dont agree and I am 99% sure I am right on this.

1. New sites never have PR0 they just dont have any PR (not the same thing).

2. 'Google reinclusion' only works for penilised sites and not banned sites.

3. It is SE friendly. The site has 300 inbound and 145 pages on MSN so it can be spidered. Therefore the URL has been perminently banned on Google.... you cant come back from this.

December 14th, 2005, 9:52 am

Bompa wrote:

Well, I don't know. It's my opinion that something other than a ban is
keeping Google from indexing alec's site. It could be the revist after 4, Johan
could be right. I thought that was odd too.

I don't think so because I'm doing quite well on MSN, and Yahoo has indexed my site.

Johan007 wrote:

Your site is 100% banned (PR0, no back links or site). Get yourself a new URL and webspace as there is no way back from this.

I really hope that you are wrong
But it isn't fair. Just because of Google I am forced to change my domain and start all over with building links. Sometimes I really hate having google as a major search engine...

Bompa wrote:

But, speaking of getting "back into serps", was lolhome.com ever indexed by google?

No, it was never indexed.

Bompa wrote:

One more thing to keep in mind, your title "laugh out loud" returns about 9 million results, dats alotta bananas.

Yes, but that's not the only phrase in the title (try "laugh out loud pics" on MSN for example). In addition to this, the title changes on each display page with the description of the current image. So I think it's quite well optimised from this point of view.

Ok, I have removed the revisit-after meta tag although Inktomi Slurp and MSN didn't encounter any problem with it.

Other than that link I can't find any reason for the ban.

I read somewhere that if you get lots of back links in a short period of time, you may be penalised for spam. The site did have over 30 links in under a week from registration and was crawled By G immediately.

Could the IP have something to do with this problem?

December 14th, 2005, 10:58 am

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I read somewhere that if you get lots of back links in a short period of time, you may be penalised for spam. The site did have over 30 links in under a week from registration and was crawled By G immediately.

Yes but your not penilised your banned! Penilised sites dont show PR0when they have many back links - only banned sites do.

Quote:

Could the IP have something to do with this problem?

No.

I think the previous owner of the domain name may have misused it... your site is 100% banned IMO. Pick yourself up and move on… posting here will be a waist of time.

December 14th, 2005, 5:19 pm

Johan, where are you getting your information? I've never heard anything about the PR stuff you are talking about...I would have assumed it went to zero. Also, where/how are you checking PR?

If you ask me, banned means google won't list you at all...but google is listing his site...check it yourself...

http://www.google.com/search?q=ylipsis.com


IMO, your intro page ruins it for you. Google doesn't bother with keywords and other optimization-related meta data. Your intro page has no real text content, making google see it as unrelevant.

December 14th, 2005, 5:21 pm

To backup my above point, look at the following link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... lipsis.com

December 14th, 2005, 6:54 pm

Truce wrote:

To backup my above point, look at the following link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... lipsis.com

Hey Truce,

We're talking about his other site lolhome.com





Bompa

December 14th, 2005, 9:26 pm

Ah, sorry about that.