How to get noticed by google?

March 31st, 2005, 9:58 pm

Okay, so I have put my keywords, description and author name in a text file with I "included" in my welcome page header, my phpbb forum header and my coppermine gallery header. I have put a lot of keywords, a solid description, my website should be pretty easy to find on google, right? Nope.

My problem is: My site is named Another Fantasy. My username is Vidda. My featured work are named Stressed and Lancers & Dragoons. Why is that a problem? Well there are millions of sites and projects using the name Another Fantasy. Vidda is a word in some foreign language and also the name of an association. Stressed is a commonly used word and Lancers & Dragoons is a term often used in history sites. When I type any of those keywords, I get the whole internet but my site. And yes I have submitted my site to google and it is indeed in their database. When I search for another-fantasy vidda, it works, but that's about it.

So my question is: How do I get noticed by google. Do you guys have any tips on how to make it easy for my site to be in the frist pages of a search engine with people entering a few basic keywords related to my site?

Thanks.

April 1st, 2005, 9:58 am

I dont want to write an essay but...

1) There are billions of websites out there trying to be in top 3 just like you
2) Google uses a complex system to determine whos gonna be at the top, which includes page loading time, content, how many sites are backlinking to you, their quality and much more...

Just use the search button im im sure you will be able to find something here

April 1st, 2005, 10:14 pm

Vidda

You got some work ahead ...

First your splash page (bad) contains little more than a copyright notice.(also bad). When I get to the next page I find several links at the top with SID# (really bad).

I suggest you go over to the REVIEW FORUM and start there.

If your search terms are that competitive then you need many more links. A PR-1 site is not going to rank well.

Google only has 3 pages indexed so this is a new site or there is no clear path to follow.

Good Luck

April 2nd, 2005, 9:47 pm

rtchar wrote:

Vidda

You got some work ahead ...

First your splash page (bad) contains little more than a copyright notice.(also bad). When I get to the next page I find several links at the top with SID# (really bad).

I suggest you go over to the REVIEW FORUM and start there.

If your search terms are that competitive then you need many more links. A PR-1 site is not going to rank well.

Google only has 3 pages indexed so this is a new site or there is no clear path to follow.

Good Luck

Okay slow down. You're gonna have to tell me what is "SID#" and why would it be a bad thing for a top menu. Also what is a "PR-1" site, and what has Google 3 pages indexed about? I would also like you to clue me in to what makes my copyright notice flawed.

For what it is of the splash page, well it asked for the little talent a photoshop beginner like me could use. I was planning to make a new one but I don't think that this one is so bad.

mighty b wrote:

I dont want to write an essay but...

1) There are billions of websites out there trying to be in top 3 just like you
2) Google uses a complex system to determine whos gonna be at the top, which includes page loading time, content, how many sites are backlinking to you, their quality and much more...

Just use the search button im im sure you will be able to find something here

Well it's not really a question of being in the top 3. You see, take Joanime's website for exemple. It's still in construction, and the forum has been taken, yet when I type Joanime I get her site as the first result. I already knew Google had a complex system to determine wich page shows at the top, but I concluded from this that the keywords had a lot to do with it.

April 4th, 2005, 2:52 pm

I was hoping someone else would pick up your questions ... guess I have to continue on my own

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what is "SID#"

Session ID Numbers are used for tracking visitors activity on your site. These are bad because Google cannot arbitrarily decide to delete some parts of a URL ... so normally they just won't follow them.

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what is a "PR-1" site

Google scores each page from 0 to 10, based on the number AND quality of links to that page. A PR-1 is close to the bottom of this PAGE RANK range. All things being equal the higher page rank pages will appear first in the search results. NOTE: 100+ FACTORS ARE USED --- PAGE RANK IS ONLY ONE OF THESE FACTORS.

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what has Google 3 pages indexed about?

By using a site:domain search for your site it shows how many pages Google has found. And more importantly WHICH pages they can index. Sometimes this can indicate problems in navigation or links.

Your site can be seen here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... asy.uni.cc

UPDATE --- Down to one page indexed today

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notice flawed.

It is not that your copyright is flawed ... it is just that there are NO keywords on your home page for Google to index. Standard text like this is probably on a 1000 other sites ... what makes yours different?

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For what it is of the splash page

See the comment above ... splash pages seldomly describe a site's content and generally contain little or no references to keywords.

You can see what Google remembers about your page by looking at the cached text here:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:hU ... r=&strip=1

April 4th, 2005, 6:06 pm

Ok thanks.

About SID#
Sorry but as far as I know I can't do anything about it. The whole site's using the phpBB system and I programmed all the non-phpBB/non-mMODs parts (the whole update system that makes my forum behave exactly like a CMS) out of almost-scratch, except I used phpBB's basic functions like template parsing and such. So unless there's a mod that will tell me how to remove SID#, then I can't do anything about it.

About PR-1:
How do I know the page rank of my site, and, is there a way to raise it. (ie: Make my site better and then get it re-reviewed by google)

About google indexing:
Right now it shows 6 pages in my broswer, yet again it might be because I'm logged on to my own site... What pages does it show when you index my site's URL, and how do I make it so Google can crawl to more pages?

About the keywords:
I added keywords in a meta tag, I didn't put them on my site, yet I gotta admit that the splash page has pretty much nothing in matter of text but a simple copyright notice. So perthaps I should add a description -- Or at least a hidden keyword list of some sort?

Thanks again.

April 4th, 2005, 6:49 pm

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About SID#

http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic31332.html

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About PR-1:

Get more quality links

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About google indexing:

When I click on the link above I see only your home page. Might be a different data center?

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About the keywords:

Few search engines look at the META keywords. A description and title with keywords is good, but generally not as good as content.

April 4th, 2005, 7:48 pm

SID#: Okay, seems like a lot of sacrifices. Do you think that applying some of those changes will help even though I don't apply them all?

PR1: I'll try, thanks.

Google Indexing: Seems to me like these links are "broken". Their URL exist, yet opening them from Google Indexing seems to lead to an error.

Keywords: I'll do that, thanks.

April 4th, 2005, 9:16 pm

I am not the forum guru ... however this is a phpBB forum ...

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Seems to me like these links are "broken

1. In the search box on Goole type SITE:yourdomainname

2. Below the results look for the word "cached"

3. At the top of the page find "cached text"

April 5th, 2005, 6:35 pm

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When I type any of those keywords, I get the whole internet but my site

The keywords your talking about (ie, Another Fantasy, Stressed, etc) are extremely generic and open in nature, hence, they are probably used by countless of websites to describe, denote or relate to a million and one notions, concepts, ideas, meanings, products, etc.

To reach the top in SERP (Search Engine Ranking Position) in say Yahoo or Google, you've got to understand that your competing with a massive plethora of websites. Sites that have been established for years and which have solid SEO (Search Engine Optimisation) traits (eg, thousands of quality backlinks, high PR, relevant and up-to-date content, good use of alt-tags, solid HTML structure, etc).

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Well it's not really a question of being in the top 3. You see, take Joanime's website for exemple. It's still in construction, and the forum has been taken, yet when I type Joanime I get her site as the first result.

You can't compare Joanime to keywords such as "Another Fantasy" or "Stressed". As noted, they have thousands of applicable uses and far more relevance, I mean, Joanime, it's not even a word according to http://www.yourdictionary.com.


Where to go from here? Start by browsing through other postings in this forum.


Good luck.

April 6th, 2005, 3:55 pm

Okay.

So now I see that Google has updated its cache for my splash page... but that's about it. It didn't update any of the few pages it indexes nor did it crawl through the site any furter than before, while other phpBBs even without the SEO mod have all their forums and topics indexed.

April 6th, 2005, 8:24 pm

Hmmm ... I think I see another part of your problem.

If I do a site search

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Results 1 - 10 of about 11 from anotherfantasy.uni.cc

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Results 1 - 1 of about 3 from http://www.anotherfantasy.uni.cc

Google is having trouble figuring out your domain name (with or without www??) You need to 301 redirect one so you are not penalized for duplicate pages.

See http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic42472.html

April 7th, 2005, 3:34 pm

Okay thanks for those informations, but what should I put in .htaccess to make anotherfantasy.uni.cc redirect to http://www.anotherfantasy.uni.cc without it getting stuck in an endless redirecting loop?

EDIT: Nevermind I have found out.

August 10th, 2005, 1:47 am

To get notice by google you should think at the google point of view also, you should implement changes and update your site with the basic requirement to get it notice by them, like adding lots of fresh & relevant content, optimize keywords and title, obtain backlinks from relevant websites.

August 11th, 2005, 1:42 pm

Vidda wrote:

My problem is: My site is named Another Fantasy. My username is Vidda. My featured work are named Stressed and Lancers & Dragoons. Why is that a problem? Well there are millions of sites and projects using the name Another Fantasy. Vidda is a word in some foreign language and also the name of an association. Stressed is a commonly used word and Lancers & Dragoons is a term often used in history sites. When I type any of those keywords, I get the whole internet but my site. And yes I have submitted my site to google and it is indeed in their database. When I search for another-fantasy vidda, it works, but that's about it.

So my question is: How do I get noticed by google. Do you guys have any tips on how to make it easy for my site to be in the frist pages of a search engine with people entering a few basic keywords related to my site?

Thanks.

I think your site has been noticed by Google already and that your
real question is "How do I move up from nowhere in the SERPs to
the top 20 results?"

First, you need to decide if your keywords are correct for you.

When I search Google for 'another fantasy', it says it has over
12 million results.

Therefore, many people will tell you that 'another fantasy' is a very
competitive search phrase, but it's not.

How do I know? Because there is not one webmaster willing to pay
for an ad to show for that keyphrase.

Do you know how many people search for 'another fantasy' daily?

Roughly 1 per day.

In my opinion, you need to do some keyword research.

How do people find your competitor's site?
How do people find sites like yours?


just my thoughts,
Bompa