PageRank contribution question.

Post June 3rd, 2006, 7:44 am

1. Will a page with a rank directly contribute to your site (which the backlink points to) as long as it is indexed in Google?

2. Will a page with a rank contribute to your site if it is not indexed in Google?
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 7:57 am

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1. Will a page with a rank directly contribute to your site (which the backlink points to) as long as it is indexed in Google?

Depends what you mean by contribute. If you mean increase your PR, then yes it will. If you mean increase your SERPS no it won't.

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2. Will a page with a rank contribute to your site if it is not indexed in Google?

Any backllink will contribute to your PR.
Google must know about the page if it had PR, So means they visit, and if they visit they will be following links from that site to your site. But if that page is nowhere in the index and has PR it must be either dupe content or a worthless page full of spam... In suffering in an algo update.

But don't worry about PR. Concentrate on getting links from related sites rather than backlinks based on PR.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 8:14 am

So you're saying Relevancy > PageRank?

Are you relating this to SERP performance? or PR performance as well.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 8:25 am

Relevancy is much more important than PR when it comes to increasing your serps. Getting links from unreleated sites will only incrrease your PR, which is of little (or no) use.

Links from related sites means google are more likely to see you as an authority in that market (as your competition think your information is worth informing thier visitors about) , It also has the chance of bringing you targeted visitors who are likely to buy your products, or at least bookmark your page.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 8:40 am

Would a listing from a directory in a category related to your site be considered relevant? Or are directories useless when it comes to relevancy?

I'm thinking my best bet is to post to blogs that are relevant to my site. What do you think?

Another question -- I have a directory...do you think it's best for me to increase PageRank and then eventually charge for submissions...or try to get ranked in SERPs (is it even likely I a directory would list) and try to make money off ads?
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 8:54 am

Directories would help if you submit to the most fitting catagory.
But directory listings are starting to lose any importance they do have, Because it's fairly easy to get a site with poor content listed in a directory.
Posting to blogs is the same, It's fairly easy to get your link in a comments section of a blog and most blogs now use a rel="nofollow" attriibute on links so bots don't follow them anyway.

The best links are links on related websites that are static hardcoded HTML links.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 9:08 am

Then blogs that list URLs without the rel="nofollow" should still be valuable then. What if the blog site uses Haloscan...do you think posts are still worthwhile in this case?

Thanks for all your replies.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 9:12 am

Personally i wouldnt waste my time posting on blogs.
Even blogs that dont use a rel="nofollow" are still going to be of little value

A one way link hardcoded into a related site is going to be worth 100s more than a link in a blog comment.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 9:21 am

I guess there's no easy way to go about this...I will have to find relevant sites to do link exchanges with.

Any secrets or wisdom you could share?

Also, do you have any idea when the next Google update should happen?
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 9:25 am

The only secret is to build a really good site full of usefull information that people want to 1) read and 2) link to.
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Post June 3rd, 2006, 10:27 am

corduroy090 wrote:
I guess there's no easy way to go about this...I will have to find relevant sites to do link exchanges with.

Any secrets or wisdom you could share?

Also, do you have any idea when the next Google update should happen?


If you're willing to invest some money, you may want to take a look at 'SEO Elite' ( http://www.seoelite.com ) - it's analysis software that can help you identify similar sites (based on your keywords), retrieves contact information, and can even analyze your competitors' sites to determine where you can make improvements. All of these can be done manually for free, of course, but the amount of time and effort it saves is more than worth the money, in my opinion. :D

HTH,
Sam

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