Submitting to Web Directories - helpful or useless?!

March 3rd, 2008, 3:45 pm

How important are directories?!

For many of people web directories seem to be a master key for their own websites success. They submit to almost everything that even looks like web directory, thinking of... thank God for this easy way to catch good PR... as much directories I submit, better PR I have... higher PR directory, even better... etc...
So they submit hundreds of directories, but their PR was still zero. It doesn't move from the spot at all, even after months and months of hard submitting.

What's the problem?!

Honestly, it could be a lot of problems in relation between website and good PR, but we are talking about web directories now. What could be wrong?! You submit to so many of web directories, even a good one directories, with high (5, 6 or 7) PR, and nothing?!

The problem is in relation between web directory and Google. They are simply, worthless!!! So are the backlinks from them. You may have a millions of that kind backlinks and still have PR zero, even if they have really high Page Rank...

How could it be?

If you do a little research about web directories, you will find out soon why is it so. You will find tons of generally web directories, those kind of websites who are not explicitly web directories, and they have very mixed content. Just a little of SEO things, a little of web design, some free templates... little of this - little of that... which means, they are generally-content websites. Most of them are junk or spam, in best cases just another website with a lot of Adsense. Certainly, some of them are really good websites, with trusty and valuable content on their pages, so they earned 5, 6 or 7, some of them even 8 PR, but they are still generlly-content... and also, by the way web directories who offers bacllinks to you, mostly conditioned with reciprocal links. So... they are practically chasing after their own backlinks, which is in some cases hundreds of thousands of them, because people gladly submitting websites, expecting good valuable backlinks.
The pages that contains submitted links (pages with categories where have you done your submission) are not actually indexed by Google spider on purpose of hiding them, because they actually don't need them to be indexed. All they need are backlinks that you have provide by putting reciprocal links into your index page.

Watching from other view... whole game is about their backlinks, not yours!

[joebert]

March 3rd, 2008, 4:09 pm

If The Internet were a human, directories would be cancerous cells.

March 3rd, 2008, 4:34 pm

joebert wrote:

If The Internet were a human, directories would be cancerous cells.

Yeah man... It appear to be so! Glad you agree with me... Not long time ago I had a different opinion about this. I thought its best and most important way for websites success. After a while I was surprised that my PR doesn't move at all. Done some research on the topic and conclude... that's useless job. Was so disappointed after months and months of submitting...

Anyway, thanks for support!

[joebert]

March 3rd, 2008, 5:10 pm

Ever send spiders crawling through directories ? Rarely do you find somthing that's not just directing you to another directory. I've gotten less of a runaround trying to make an appointment at the DMV.

March 3rd, 2008, 5:38 pm

No man, as I tell you... absolutely worthless links. I wouldn't lie if I say that I submitted to more then 100 directories. I have try even to f...... DMOZ year ago (almost), guess what?! They never even f...... answer me... Is it bad website, or wrong category, or they just don't like my shoe number.

By the way, what's DMV?
Anyway... sory, english isn't my mother-lenguage... So, I am not just like fish in the water, on this forum.

[joebert]

March 3rd, 2008, 5:50 pm

I've heard great things about DMOZ for the most part, but I never use it.
I've never had a listing from DMOZ show up in a search result either come to think of it.




DMV is the Department of Motor Vehicles in the U.S. It's where we take care of driving licenses & they're notorious for giving people the runaround in some states.

March 3rd, 2008, 6:34 pm

Oh, that is DMV!!! I am a little far away from the States...

About DMOZ... You won't get them listed in the search results, because they don't want to. You know... robot.txt file, and staff like that. Who knows what reason for?! I guess because they are a >really< web directory by >default<. If you noticed they are specific only to be a web directory, not generally website and just by the way, some directory.
Here it is, my friend... Its a little late here (02:30 after midnight) and its time to go sleep...
Nice to chat with you joebert!

Snooper.

March 3rd, 2008, 8:46 pm

Directories is very important and useful for web administrators if their sites hope a high rank level and anyone want to find a web address that they need with shortest time.

March 4th, 2008, 2:54 am

htcorp wrote:

Directories is very important and useful for web administrators if their sites hope a high rank level and anyone want to find a web address that they need with shortest time.

Guys, guys, guys...


Firstly, there isn't such a thing... SEO ranking!!! It is only, SEO does effect to the ranking... I could agree with that.

Secondly, can you give me a proof, but explicitly your own... something like your own websites PR, based only or mostly on web directories backlinks?!


There could be some exceptions, like DMOZ or YAHOO. Its probably valuable directories... but have you ever submitted to DMOZ, or pay to YAHOO almost $300 for a single backlink?! I'd like to know your own experience, with proofs, of course.

That's what I am talking about. Whole story with directories is a little shaky!!!

March 4th, 2008, 3:55 am

@Snooper & joebert

Exactly ... I get so tired of this backlink-sh*t ! If webmasters would check their mark-up, (meta, title, headers) put content in the right place & make sure that their URLS make sense .... dhaa ... that would be sooo much more effective than having a gazillion backlinks.

March 4th, 2008, 5:53 am

Snooper wrote:

:? How important are directories?!

For many of people web directories seem to be a master key for their own websites success. They submit to almost everything that even looks like web directory, thinking of... thank God for this easy way to catch good PR... as much directories I submit, better PR I have... higher PR directory, even better... etc...
So they submit hundreds of directories, but their PR was still zero. It doesn't move from the spot at all, even after months and months of hard submitting.

What's the problem?!

Honestly, it could be a lot of problems in relation between website and good PR, but we are talking about web directories now. What could be wrong?! You submit to so many of web directories, even a good one directories, with high (5, 6 or 7) PR, and nothing?!

The problem is in relation between web directory and Google. They are simply, worthless!!! So are the backlinks from them. You may have a millions of that kind backlinks and still have PR zero, even if they have really high Page Rank...

How could it be?

If you do a little research about web directories, you will find out soon why is it so. You will find tons of generally web directories, those kind of websites who are not explicitly web directories, and they have very mixed content. Just a little of SEO things, a little of web design, some free templates... little of this - little of that... which means, they are generally-content websites. Most of them are junk or spam, in best cases just another website with a lot of Adsense. Certainly, some of them are really good websites, with trusty and valuable content on their pages, so they earned 5, 6 or 7, some of them even 8 PR, but they are still generlly-content... and also, by the way web directories who offers bacllinks to you, mostly conditioned with reciprocal links. So... they are practically chasing after their own backlinks, which is in some cases hundreds of thousands of them, because people gladly submitting websites, expecting good valuable backlinks.
The pages that contains submitted links (pages with categories where have you done your submission) are not actually indexed by Google spider on purpose of hiding them, because they actually don't need them to be indexed. All they need are backlinks that you have provide by putting reciprocal links into your index page.

Watching from other view... whole game is about their backlinks, not yours!

Well.......I think just submitting a website to maximum possible number of web directories is not good. We should focus only on popular directories and not just submit your site to directory but submit a site properly to most relevant category with relavant anchor text and description to a web directory....it will sure help in rankings but in long term as it takes long to get listed in popular web directory.

March 4th, 2008, 7:44 am

delNorto wrote:

@Snooper & joebert

Exactly ... I get so tired of this backlink-sh*t ! If webmasters would check their mark-up, (meta, title, headers) put content in the right place & make sure that their URLS make sense .... dhaa ... that would be sooo much more effective than having a gazillion backlinks.

Backlinks are great idea only to help (?!) better ranking, but a lot of guys think that is more important even then content of the website. I saw a lot oh guys making senseless websites, and they expecting great success after numerous of submitting.

I'd really like them conceded once: "Yes, I have wrong, my website is worthless, can't be reputable and I am going to do something better!"

March 5th, 2008, 7:40 am

directories are good but due to constant abuse in site submissions, they are now the new place for link spamming

March 5th, 2008, 8:01 am

For me submitting in web directories still have a value even a little...Just choose those reputable one, those well manage and has PR...There are free there and don't need reciprocal to be included...However, don't expect too much for it...It is one way in a lot of SEO technique in getting BL...Building quality BL to have high PR is depends on your effort and strategy to be used...Don't rely in just one strategy...For me on of the most important is having a good and valuable contents in your site, it will give you natural links...

March 7th, 2008, 4:51 am

psyche wrote:

For me submitting in web directories still have a value even a little...Just choose those reputable one, those well manage and has PR...There are free there and don't need reciprocal to be included...However, don't expect too much for it...It is one way in a lot of SEO technique in getting BL...Building quality BL to have high PR is depends on your effort and strategy to be used...Don't rely in just one strategy...For me on of the most important is having a good and valuable contents in your site, it will give you natural links...

I agree. I don't depend much on directory submission, I only submitted to those reliable sites.