Page Rank Update Megathread (update 31.12.2009)

I think you are talking about two different effects here ...

In the first article you seem to attribute the improved search engine ranking to PR, but you never state if the page rank changed at the time.

I think what you saw was that Google found the links and attributed the link text to YOUR page.... thus improving your search engine ranking, not your PR.

Actually, this is the similar to the case you make in the second article.

By the way, I think your conclusions are wrong here also. You are seeing the same effect as above and assuming that external links carry more weight.

All I see is additional links to an internal page making it more relevant. I would guess the links contained your site name so this page becomes more relevant when searching for your name.

In both cases I think you proved that LINK TEXT is very important to search engine ranking for your keywords. And you proved that search engine rankings are updated frequently.

When the toolbar PR updates you don’t see any shifts in search results like you used too. Same goes for when the back links have been updated.

The Google Update has been dead for some time. Google updates all the time. Page Rank is the major factor in rankings (out side link text).

That's not been MY experience

After the last couple of updates, my new sites have moved a couple of pages forward in search engines.

Google seems to recognize the links (anchor text) almost immediately, and my site will move 1 or 2 positions. But, after a PR or backlink update it usually moves huge amounts.

Maybe when you are already at the top there is just no where to go?

lol I wish that was the case. I use http://www.cleverstat.com/google-monitor-query.htm to track about 20 of my pages every day.

Of course the visual pagerank did not change yet. its common sense that for that page to have become more important than the other page in my site that the pagerank had to have increased. the effect of the pages comming up and then drifiting away again to obscurity show the effect of having a link from pages one page removed from EarthWeb.com and Internet News, which eventually went into their archives at which time my page became less important.



PageRank is how they judge a large portion of the value of a link. obviously they need to estimate some value to have it take effect.


consider 300 to 400 inbound links using a term (including about a half dozen external links also pointing at the page)

vs

about a dozen links.

I think that does a good job of showing how much more effective external links are than internal ones.


Right, but since PageRank is a core part of the Google Algorithm they must associate some values with the links pointing at me and parse some of that power through or else such an effect would not be so dramatically noticable.

seobook

I really don't want to get into a spitting match over who has the best interpretation.

However .... The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine states:


and ...



If it is any help I do agree that "300 to 400 inbound links" are better than "about a dozen links".

Any one else seeing backlink changes?

My links just changed from 23 to 46 ... not seeing PR changes yet.

my pr has gone up abit 2 of my sites have bought links for a month to a pr 7 site and one have gone from a zero to a 3 and the other hasnt moved anything another one of my sites has gone up one

pitty i thought they would have atleast gone to a 4 or 5

God damned , why it happened before a big crawl , oh my god this sudden update owe a little fortune, i cant believe it , it has updated our sites backlinks however it has done when we are configuring the .htaccess redirects ... i wish google made a big crawl or still doin it and refresh those backlinks otherwise

Google has updated again its Backward links (BL) We have also seen changes in PageRank.I have also noticed the interested change In one case in which earlier google changed it to PR0 becuase of similar content we changed the conent last few now the page has again PR5.

There are changes only in the BL and no changes in the PR.Well let us see when the PR changes allthough BL have increased but so far no change in PR

I am seeing backlink changes, but no PR changes anywhere. For the people seeing PageRank changes are you sure?

Yes BigWebmaster I see one of our new page rised to the pr5 from 0 and i think the most important pr change is that i notice a page has pr4 fall to the 0 and this is the only page that have dublicated content(only file name different) but other twin has same pr still.

I think at this update, google has enchanged a strong pr filter for dublicated pages.

Could those backlinks and pr update are stil refreshing or does it completed ?

I have also seen a change in BL but no change in PR.

G shows 151 BL (update from 3 to 151) but any of 6-7 PR BLs No PR update too.