I need to build a server

  • Hades
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Hi all,
At work we have like 6 websites for our organisation and I sugested to my boss that we should make a web server for us and put it somewhere. I got a location to where i can put it, but I'm not too sure about building it.

What I need help with is the hardware. I'd like to hear your suggestions. I was thinking of going with Linux for the OS. As with the rest help me out guys.

Processor?
How much RAM?
RAID?
And if I want MySQL, do I install it on the machine?
What about PERL and PHP?
IIS?

Any help is appreciated,
thanks.
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6 web sites, so that means at least 6 IP addresses unless you use a webserver that can differentiate between the DNS name used. Apache can, not sure if IIS will.

Your best bet is to get Linux or FreeBSD.
I would suggest Gentoo Linux with the latest Apache and the MYSQL module for apache. It's not very complicated to set-up..

As for hardware:
(Linux/FreeBSD Server)
Proc: AMD Opteron 244 socket 940
Mobo: TYAN S2850G2N socket 940
Memory: 4GB 2 sets of PQI Turbo (2x1GB) ECC Registered PC3200 DDR
Raid Card: Promise FastTrack TX4200 SATA Raid 0/1/10 JBOD
HDD: 4x Mactor DiamonMax 250GB 16Mb Cache SATA150
Case: 2U Enlight 8981EF1 Rackmount with 480W PSU

Price: ~ $1,946.99


(Windows Server 2000/2003)
Proc: Intel P4 630 EMT64 LGA775
Mobo: Intel SE7221BA1 LAG775 Server
Memory: 4x Kingston ValueRAM 1GB ECC registered DDR2 533
HDD: 4x Maxtor DiamondMax 250GB 16MB Cache Sata150
Case: 2U Enlight 8981EF1 Rackmount with 480W PSU

Price: ~ $1,734.27
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How much traffic you have, and are projected to have in the future have a large bareing on the hardware setup you'll need, so if you can give us some idea of the load people will be able to give you hardware solutions better tailored to your needs.
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Any of those two servers I posted before should be able to handle all 6 sites with 35,000 - 40,000 hits per day. The network would bottleneck before these suckers do. Any more than 100,000 hits I would say get 10Gbit fibre cards and split the sites to two servers or get a Blade set with 5 dual xenons at about $45,000.
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Whoaa :shock: That'S a lot of traffic.

I don't think that I'm going to get that much daily activity, but thanks for the stats. Hardware I don't have a problem. But the software...

What about the MySQL and the scripts?
Do i just install the MySQL on the server and bang It's on?
Same thing with php, is it in RedHat or am I way OFF?
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php and MySQL both come with and can be installed along with Redhat. It's pretty straight forward going through the setup and there are no shortages of guides out there.
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Redhat is worthless, get a real Linux distribution.

Debian, Gentoo, Slackware <- Any of those three. Although, if you wanna really get the haxx0r chicks all hot and bothered, you could even install FreeBSD, :twisted:
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Thanks guys

I'll finish my shopping and I'll let you know what I get
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ok...

I'm down to three choices

1.
- 2 X Kingston PC3200 (DDR400) 1GB DDR RAM (KVR400X64C3A/1G)
- FastTrak S150 SX4-M SATA Controller with 64mb ECC Retail (Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10, JBOD)
-2 X Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 200GB - 7200RPM, 16MB cache,SATA150 (OEM)
-AMD Opteron 244 1.8GHz 1128K Cache Retail
-Tyan Thunder K8W - AMD-8111/AMD-8131 (Dual Socket 940)
-haven't found a rack yet

Total : $1,840.80

2.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=635296&CatId=0

3.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=635296&CatId=0
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Ok this is insane, you don't need that kind of power and you definitely don't need to spend $2k.

This might be a little too late, but you would be suprised what you could do with a single chip P4 or AMD at around 2ghz.

You don't need anything more than 1GB of ram on a webserver, and unless you're running real database intensive stuff, you can almost always get away with 512MB.

I agree with the hard drives here, if you want anything stable you have to have mirroring raid setup (raid 1). I would get a board that supports raid 1 onboard, but DONT get the fasttrack, I have one of these things and I can't even use it. Drives are constantly dissapearing and it required a ton of work to get it to work in Linux (and I'm not a noob). It works under windows but I ended up losing 500gb of data when it randomly stopped seeing my drives.

Unless you're running something thats VERY database intensive you won't need much more than what I've described to serve hundreds of thousands of hits per month.

I would get something small to start with, spend less than $1500. If you need more power, buy another server on the cheap. You can split the database and apache or host some sites on one and some on the other.

Good luck!
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Also, I would check out dell.. you can get some really good deals on this stuff.

I bought some dell 1850's a few months back for under $1800 each.

Drives: 2 x 73gb 10k rpm drives in RAID 0
Ram: 2gb
CPUs: 2 x 2.8ghz Intel Xeon (64bit)
With dual power supplies, dual gigabit nics, rails and the dell remote access card.
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SMH....he is not running a gaming server.....or anything that intense, a single chip box would more then handle what he is trying to put together.

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Wouldnt it be cheaper to buy a Game Server? lol
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Could build a single chipped dual core amd system that would handle everything just fine I would imagine.

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