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Post 3+ Months Ago

Hi, im new to the forum and was wondering if anyone could help me out? I have realatively little knowledge concerning computers in depth, but i do know most of the basic stuff. Anyways, im gettin a new computer for college and was wondering which processor i shoud go with. I saw ur post on AMD vs Intel, but i still dont know what to get. I want to be able to play games (Counter-Strike: Source, Doom, etc), but i still want to be able to run other stuff and i dont know what that will involve yet. Im looking to spend around $1500 including a monitor and printer. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Hi and welcome ! :D

What is it your studying ?

If your going to be doing things like graphic design, video encoding etc then I would go with Intel. Your gaming may suffer [ but only very marginaly ].

Whereas if its just a bit of word processing and pishing [ not sure where I got that word from ] about in other apps then I would say AMD.

Thats my personal opinion though.
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usually with schoolwork people pick Intel
but ur in a little bit of a delimma because of the gaming
ill put together a computer for u and keep it under $1500

its going to be an intel system alright.
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alright! i have built the pc

totals come to
$1,288.61

at newegg ( hope u dont care that u gotta buy online )

but i need ur area code to figure out shipping

but heres what i put together

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wis ... urrent.asp

if that doesent work just read below




Computer ATX Cases:
A-TOP XBlade AT859A-BK Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer
Case 450W Power Supply
$56.99
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6811105113


Hard Drives - Internal:
seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380011A 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive
$63.00
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6822148015

Keyboards:
logitech Elite 967234-0403 Black USB + PS/2 Standard Keyboard
$24.00
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6823126114

Memory - System:
GeIL Value 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory Model GE1GB3200BDC
$95.00
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820144310

Monitors - LCD:
8-Cube JT178QP49-12 Black 17" 12ms LCD Monitor
$199.99
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6824209002

Motherboards - Intel:
Foxconn 865A01-PE-6EKRS Socket 478 Intel 865PE ATX Intel Motherboard
$75.00
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6813186003

Mouse:
Logitech MX310 930928-0403 2 tone 6 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse
$20.00
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6826104136

Printers & Multifunction Devices:
HP PSC 1315 17 ppm 4800 x 1200 dpi Color InkJet Multifunction/All-In-One Printer
$89.95
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6828104196

Processors:
intel Pentium 4 3.0E Prescott 800MHz FSB Socket 478 Processor $187.99
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6819116171

Sound Cards:
M-AUDIO Revolution 5.1 6 (5.1) Channels PCI Interface Sound card
$75.00
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6829121116

Speakers:
Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker
$46.00
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6836121118

Video Cards:
ATI Radeon 9800PRO 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card
$283.00
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6814102387

Drives:
Panasonic SW-9585BBD BLK Black IDE DVD Burner
$49.99
http://www2.newegg.com/product/product. ... 6827133009

AOpen Black 52X CD-R 32X CD-RW 52X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE CD Burner
$22.50
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6827106585




umm there ya go
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I would definitely go with an AMD processor. Not only are they the current performance leader, but they are also the value leader. Unless you're doing heavy multi-tasking and need Hyper-Threading, there's no reason to buy an Intel processor at this particular time. My suggestion is a Socket 939 AMD 64 3000+ or a Socket 939 AMD 64 3200+. Pair one of these processors with a Nforce 4 motherboard and you've got a great base for your system.

Your best bet for a videocard is probaly an ATI X800 XL or a GeForce 6800 GT. Both can handle any games out there and should have no problem handling next-generation games.

Pick up 1 GB (2x512 of Dual-Channel) of Corsair, Kingston, or another reputable comapny. The value-ram models from a reputable company should serve you fine.

Western Digital and Seagate are both reputable companies that offer hard drives that perform well and are reasonably quiet and reliable. Pick up one with at least 100 GB of space.

Cases are almost all aesthetics, so pick one that you like that has gotten good reviews and looks like a quality piece of equipment.

Don't skimp on your power supply. Go for a name brand power supply by Antec, Fortron, OCZ, Enermax, or another reputable company. Don't ruin your $1500 system by purchasing a worthless power supply.

I would pick a 19" CRT since they're basically superior to LCDs in every way unless you move your computer a lot. They offer better colour accuracy, more screen real-estate for your money, and no stupid native resolutions or ghosting. Aperture Grille CRTs are better than Shadow Mask CRTs but Aperture Grille's are also more expensive. If you don't need the absolute best, Shadow Mask should be fine.

Grabbing a Creative Audigy Sound Card of some king is money well invested if you play games and listen to music. The more expensive the card, the better the quality and features. Anything in the $50-$100 price range is probaly right for your purposes.

That's pretty much it. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Wow, thank you all very much. Unfortunately though, all of my questions were in vain. My parents had already bought me a computer and wanted me to do some research on my own before i got one i guess. I dont know, they're weird. Anyways, i appreciate all of your advice and thank you for your time. By the way, I ended up getting a P4 640 with Ht, a 128MB Radeon Video Card, and a lot of other sweet stuff for video editing and music. I also got a PVR with it so i can record shows of the tv onto my computer.

Thanks again
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how much hard drive space cuz ur gonna need alot for recording all of the tv u might want
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3700 San Diego or 3800 Venice would have been better for gaming, they are also cheaper/same price. Socket 939 also offers better motherboards and SLi capabilities at the moment. And the option of upgrading to a dual core processor without having to change motherboard. Both of the CPU's are available here:-

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Socket_939_cpus.html
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Thanks again for all of your help. I ended up getting a HP Media Center m7060n:
Intel 630 (3.0GHz, 800 FSB)
1GB DDR2 RAM
180GB Hard Drive
Intel Media Accelerator 900 (yuk) w/ TV tuner and video in/out
56X CD-Rom
Lightscribe DVD+-R
9-1 Media Card Reader
...and some other stuff

However, I have found myself in a bit of a problem. I only have PCI slots on my computer (no PCI-E) and im looking to get a new graphics card. I heard that PCI cards suck for the most part, and was wondering if someone could help me with choosing a good card. Im thinking about possibly getting a GeForce FX 5500 OC 256MB because its on sale for about $90 right now at Best Buy, but im sure there are better cards out there. Any help would be greatly appreciatied.

Thanks for your time,
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does the prescott extreme edition have a L3 or L2 cache?
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I dont know if thats what i have, but my computer has 2MB L2 Cache. More info is here http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4028990.
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i think ati is overall better. i would get the ati 9800 mention aboved. it's a pretty good card and worth the money.
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I would, however, my computer does not support PCI-Express. I only have PCI slots. I was wondering of the PCI cards which would be the best bet for me. Right now it looks like either a


Geforce FX5200 256MB DDR PCI Video Card
GeForce FX 5500 OC 256MB
SAPPHIRE 100114 Radeon 9250 256MB
POWERCOLOR R92P-LD3 Radeon 9250 256MB DDR

...these are all 256MB cards, would there be any 128MB cards that are better??
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does your computer have an apg slot?
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No, unfortunately it doesnt. However, somehting i missed previously is that i believe it does have 1 PCI-E slot. However, there is no "connector" (idk if thats the right term for it) to connect the card to the motherboard. If i can purchase a "connector" seperately, i think my problems are solved, and i will try to find a good card that isnt bottlenecked by my computer. Thanks for all the help, and feel free to keep shooting me some suggestions.

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