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I just bought this CPU
http://www.compusa.com/products/product ... 7&pfp=cat3

my motherboard is a Biostar p4vma-m
http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=p4vma-m

I posted this to another forum and they said it wouldn't work....but just to make sure i was going to post it here.

So will this be fine....?

Also, Is there anything else that i would need to do after it has been installed....?
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Yes it will work, the CPU is skt 478 and the mobo is a skt 478 aswell.
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alright thank you..
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yeah, it should work fine.... although what do you mean "is there anything else..."?

You will probably have to set the FSB (Front Side Bus) in the BIOS to 800MHz (This may actually require you to set it to 800, 400, or 200 as many motherboard differ on how it is displayed) When you have it set correctly the system will report the correct CPU Name on boot up.... in this case 3GHz or 3000MHz.

thats really all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Is this okay ?

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or is anything wrong with this ??
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Looks fine to me, the Core and Bus speeds look fine.

Does it run fine for you though ? Try running a program called Prime95.

If your computer can run that for a few hours without crashing then your sorted :D
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Looks fine to me too... a little under optimal, but definitely in normal parameters. Don't forget to set temp alarms or shutoffs.... if you let Prime95 run on a bad CPU when you leave the house it is always nice to have a house to come back to!
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How do I setup the shutoff temps...and what do you suggest that I should use for it.
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As long as its the 7.x version, it looks good.


According to the enlarge pic, it is showing 7.x

http://www.biostar.com.tw/support/cpu/s ... 4vma-m-v73

There are two PCB versions.

2.x and 7.x

2.x supports:
Intel P4 Prescott 3.2GHz (800MHz)
Intel P4 Prescott 2.8GHz (533MHz)
Intel P4 3.4GHz (800MHz)
Intel P4 3.06GHz (533MHz)
Intel P4 Celeron - D 2.8GHz (533MHz)
Intel P4 Celeron 2.8GHz (400MHz)


7.x has:
Intel P4 Prescott 3.0GHz (800MHz)
Intel P4 Prescott 2.8GHz (533MHz)
Intel P4 3.4GHz (800MHz)
Intel P4 3.06GHz (533MHz)
Intel P4 Celeron - D 2.8GHz (533MHz)
Intel P4 Celeron 2.8GHz (400MHz)
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Should be a BIOS setting.... RTFM :lol:

Normally under a section like "Health and Monitoring"

You want the CPU (under load) to stay under 70° C so I would set temp warnings/shutoff near that level. Warnings maybe a bit lower like 65° C, but a good, safe shutoff is right around 70° C.
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Is that your mug, ComputerManDan?

http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/mugs/299a/
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There is no way I can setup the alarm temp, But I set the shutoff temp to 70° C.
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Skirge wrote:
There is no way I can setup the alarm temp, But I set the shutoff temp to 70° C.


Has a similar effect, alerts you to the fact your CPU is at a nice temp to fry an egg ....
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heh lol
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Whats the temp that a CPU can get before it gets damaged?
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EliteHunter wrote:
Whats the temp that a CPU can get before it gets damaged?


Intel® Pentium® 4 processor

sSpec Number sl7e4
Processor Frequency 3 GHz
CPUID String 0f34h
Package Type 478 pin PPGA
Core Voltage 1.25V-1.400V
Bus Speed 800 MHz
Thermal Guideline 89.0W
Core Stepping D0
Thermal Spec 69.1°C (156.38°F) Maximum Operating
L2 Cache Size 1 MB
Manufacturing Technology 90 nm
L2 Cache Speed 3.00 GHz
Bus/Core Ratio 15
Box Order Code BX80546PG3000E
OEM Order Code RK80546PG0801M


Thermal Design Power
The maximum amount of heat which a thermal solution must be able to dissipate from the processor so that the processor will operate under normal operating conditions

Thermal Temp
The thermal specification is the temperature at the critical point on the die and usually represents the hottest point on the processor. Therefore, the Maximum thermal specification represents the maximum temperature for reliable operation of the processor.

sSpec Number
Also known as specification number. A five character string (SL36W, XL2XL, etc.) that is printed on the processor, and used to identify the processor. By knowing the processor's sSpec Number, you can find out the processor's core speed, cache size and speed, core voltage, maximum operating temperature and so on.
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AMD can handle a lot more heat it seems.
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AMD CPU can run happily around 70*C without being damaged to much. An Intel CPU would have commited suicide by this point though.

Anything over 65*C [ for either CPU ], I would suggest looking into better cooling in my personal opinion.
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mine goes up to 57-- my FX55.. i am getting watercooling in the next few weeks :)
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The new AMD X2 cores have some sort of amazing technology that means they run cooler that most current Intel P4's and AMD 64's yet they have TWO cores.

Thats impressive :D
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everything from AMD is impressive.!
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Enigmatic wrote:
AMD CPU can run happily around 70*C without being damaged to much. An Intel CPU would have commited suicide by this point though.

Anything over 65*C [ for either CPU ], I would suggest looking into better cooling in my personal opinion.


HOLY CRAP!! my cpu temp goes to about 75*C to 82*C after playing games for a few hours strait

thats it im getting a water cooling system.!!
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mm... use the º please.. ALT+1+6+7

anyway.. yeah.. get something cool.. prob ur wiring, no offense, but you need lessons :D
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EliteHunter wrote:
Enigmatic wrote:
AMD CPU can run happily around 70*C without being damaged to much. An Intel CPU would have commited suicide by this point though.

Anything over 65*C [ for either CPU ], I would suggest looking into better cooling in my personal opinion.


HOLY CRAP!! my cpu temp goes to about 75*C to 82*C after playing games for a few hours strait

thats it im getting a water cooling system.!!


As I said, that is my PERSONAL opinion. I know people that run them nice and hot [ like hot enough to keep the room warm ] but I like to be able to remove my CPU from the mobo every now and then to replaces the thermal compound and check the pins etc.
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my computer was like that, when it was on it was 5-10ºF warmer
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mm... use the º please.. ALT+1+6+7

anyway.. yeah.. get something cool.. prob ur wiring, no offense, but you need lessons :D


HEY NO FAIR!! :Lol: no i fixed my wiring! i used my extra power supply. (longer cords) Everything behing my mobo!

What do you suggest in water cooling? something that'll keep my CPU around 39ºC or 40ºC


PS using * is better! :lol: looks cooler. but if you insist....
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VapoChill make AMAZING water cooling kits. They cost a fair bit, but will keep your CPU cold enough to freeze your nuts to the metal.

As for using º instead of *, its easier to press one key than four :P
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so about 10ºC?
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Perhaps I was over exagertaing a little :P

My bad !! :D

But VapoChill do keep your CPU the coolest out of all the cooling kits I have come across.
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a few people recommended that to me.. expensive though, about 300 dollars USD.

i was also considering Swiftech as seen in Voodoo computers :D
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