please help, 3D Graphics Card Problem

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Hi, I need to know what 3D card I have got if any on my laptop:
Here are the basic specs:
Windows XP
Intel Pentium III
248 MB ram

I also have a problem with installing Voodoo 4/5, I have downloaded it for free from a reliable source;
http://eng.pristontale.com/ in the downloads section, graphic driver.

But when I go to install it I get about 30-40% complete and then an error message appears:
"The software you are installing has not passed Windows Logo, testing to verify its compatibility with Windows XP"

"Continuing your installation of this software may impair or destabilize the correct operation of your system either immediately or in the future.
Microsoft strongly recommends that you stop this installtion now and contact the software vendor for software that has passed Windows Logo testing."

SO HERES WHAT I NEED TO KNOW:
1)So how do I find out what card I have got if any?

2)Has this problem Occurred because I have not recently updated Windows Device/Hardware from Microsoft Windows update? (which I havnt)

3)How do I get past the problem?

4)Should I just download another graphics card of the same website and install that to see if that works or update my Windows Device/Hardware and then trya again?

I know this is all a bit long, but I thank you in advance for your help.
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Hi playa13uk

You said you downloaded the Voodoo 4/5 driver. This will only be of use to you if you have this exact video card fitted.

Unfortunately with the details you've supplied no one here will be able to find out what video card you have. You'd need to supply the make & model of the laptop. For instance the laptop i'm on now is called a Compaq nx9105.

To be honest there is a fair chance your laptop doesn't have a 3D support at all (at least not of the level to play recent games). It will have a video card of some description but not necessarily one that has hardware 3D support (most laptops don't).

Try right clicking anywhere on the desktop (not on an icon) then clicking properties. You should see the Display Properties screen. Click the far right tab labelled 'Settings'. This should hopefully have your video card listed (probably where it says 'Display'?) List it here and someone should be able to tell you if it has 3D support.

Failing the above you can use a program called Belarc Advisor (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) and this will also list the video card.

Your best bet though is maybe to check on the manufacturers website for the exact specs, otherwise post here and we'll see if we can find out for you.

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hi, thanks for the help but the way you said where u go to the desktop and properties etc... didnt work, all it showed was the name of the monitor.

Hi here is some more information about the laptop, not sure if it is what you want:

Notino 2200

Manufactured an supported by:
Hi-Grade Computers PLC
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III
Mobile CPU 1200 MHz
800
248MB of RAM

would a standard card if I have 1 on this laptop work with the game on this website: http://eng.pristontale.com/

What else can I do?
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I went to the manufacturer website in order to find out what graphics chip they would be using in their laptops but they don't list it. All they have to say is that it has enhanced graphics. I would say that you probably have the Intel Extreme Graphics chip. Voodoo is a video card manufacturer that does not exist anymore so those drivers will not work. You can get the graphics from the Intel website.

Other chips you could possibly have but doubt it is the AMD or Nvidia chip. if the intel drivers don't work try those. That is the only advice I can give at the moment.
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thanks, but should i just go to http://www.intel.com and download the graphics?

but what should i exactly get? since so you have said I most probably hav an intel extreme graphics chip, do u mean software?
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Why are you looking for a graphics driver in the first place? You could download a free trial version of Sisoft Sandra and that will tell you what graphics chip you are running. You can get that here: http://www.sisoftware.net/index.html?di ... angx=en&a=

From your posts I can tell you aren't that computer savvy so I am just curious why you are looking for a video driver?
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yea you're right i am not that much of a whizz, but i just needed some help which is why i came to this forum.

I want a decent grpahics card just in case the 1 that I have got (if any) doesnt work with the free online RPG game I am downloading off the net.

why do u ask?
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The thing is that laptops do not have graphic cards, they have chips and you just can't change them out like you would on a desktop. I am sure your graphics chip will be fine. If not then you are S.O.L.
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oh i see, well i didnt know and knowone else pointed it out, but i guess u learn somethin new everyday.

but thanks for the info and help, and hopefully it will work.

p.s. what does S.O.L mean?
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*plum* outta Luck
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haha, that best not happen or i will be pissed!

dont know if you are allowed to swear or not, oh well s*** happens.
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What grinch2171 and myself are saying that if the laptop is working fine then a new video driver isn't really going to fix things. Providing the laptop hasn't been messed about with too much then it probably has the correct video card driver. If you attempt to install another you may well screw it up.

I did a little research and it *looks* like the laptop has a SiS 630S video chipset in it which is apparently not great for 3D. Looking at this game it looks like it might be quite 3D intensive. I think it may well not work very well with your laptop, but hey who knows! Give it a go and supprise me :lol:

Review of it here. They gave it a good rating!:
http://www.itweek.co.uk/Products/Hardware/1130634

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:oops:

Alrite boys and girlz

My pc is alrite but not totally crap

Compaq Preasario

556 mb ram
Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
Nvidia Graphics card (upgrading soon)

I need help on my graphics card i want to to make it better by setting it a light

Would it help

Thank You
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*peach*, pLaya 13uk u Paki
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k thanks, and i have got SISoftware Sandra Standard (WIN32x86 unicode), and it is safe to say it is a bit complicated.

To verify Duckit and grinch, which bit do i look in to see whether or not i hav the chip?
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oh hashpollen u are annoying, lol.
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You can't look anywhere really. Its all inside the laptop. Just try the game and see if it works :lol:
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oke doke, thanks for the help ppl and i'll get back to you with the results, so keep an eye on this thread.

c y around
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*peach*, pLaya 13uk u Paki
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I haven't played with Sisoft Sandra in a while but you should have an option to view system specs and i will list all kinds of crap about your laptop like Processor spec, video, sound and other info. Actually there is an icon that says video sytem information, dowble click that and it will give you specs like this

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SiSoftware Sandra

Video Adapter
Model : RADEON 9700 PRO
Chipset : RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E44)
RAMDAC : Internal DAC(400MHz)
Video BIOS : 113-94206-102
VGA Compatible : No
Total Memory : 128MB (125MB Video)
Texture Memory : 125MB

AGP Capabilities
Version : 3.00
Command Queue Length : 256
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Fast-Writes Support : Yes
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit
Data Transfer Modes Support : 4x 8x
Current Data Transfer Rate

Video BIOS
Date : 02/10/17
Version : 1002.848

Current Video Mode
Mode : 1024x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit)
Current Refresh Rate : 75Hz
Virtual Desktop Size : 1024x768

Video Driver
Model : ati2mtag.sys
Version : 6.14.10.6414
Expected Windows Version : 4.00
Video Acceleration : Yes
Screen Saver Active : No
Low Power Saving Active : No
Power Off Saving Active : No

Supported Video Modes
Mode 0 : 320x200 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 1 : 320x200 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 2 : 320x200 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 3 : 320x200 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 4 : 320x200 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 5 : 320x200 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 6 : 320x240 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 7 : 320x240 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 8 : 320x240 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 9 : 320x240 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 10 : 320x240 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 11 : 320x240 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 12 : 400x300 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 13 : 400x300 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 14 : 400x300 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 15 : 400x300 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 16 : 400x300 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 17 : 400x300 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 18 : 512x384 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 19 : 512x384 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 20 : 512x384 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 21 : 512x384 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 22 : 512x384 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 23 : 512x384 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 24 : 640x400 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 25 : 640x400 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 26 : 640x400 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 27 : 640x400 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 28 : 640x400 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 29 : 640x400 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 30 : 640x480 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 31 : 640x480 256 colours (8-bit) 72Hz
Mode 32 : 640x480 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 33 : 640x480 256 colours (8-bit) 85Hz
Mode 34 : 640x480 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 35 : 640x480 64K HiColour (16-bit) 72Hz
Mode 36 : 640x480 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 37 : 640x480 64K HiColour (16-bit) 85Hz
Mode 38 : 640x480 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 39 : 640x480 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 72Hz
Mode 40 : 640x480 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 41 : 640x480 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 85Hz
Mode 42 : 800x600 256 colours (8-bit) 56Hz
Mode 43 : 800x600 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 44 : 800x600 256 colours (8-bit) 70Hz
Mode 45 : 800x600 256 colours (8-bit) 72Hz
Mode 46 : 800x600 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 47 : 800x600 256 colours (8-bit) 85Hz
Mode 48 : 800x600 64K HiColour (16-bit) 56Hz
Mode 49 : 800x600 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 50 : 800x600 64K HiColour (16-bit) 70Hz
Mode 51 : 800x600 64K HiColour (16-bit) 72Hz
Mode 52 : 800x600 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 53 : 800x600 64K HiColour (16-bit) 85Hz
Mode 54 : 800x600 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 56Hz
Mode 55 : 800x600 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 56 : 800x600 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 70Hz
Mode 57 : 800x600 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 72Hz
Mode 58 : 800x600 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 59 : 800x600 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 85Hz
Mode 60 : 1024x768 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 61 : 1024x768 256 colours (8-bit) 70Hz
Mode 62 : 1024x768 256 colours (8-bit) 72Hz
Mode 63 : 1024x768 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 64 : 1024x768 256 colours (8-bit) 85Hz
Mode 65 : 1024x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 66 : 1024x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 70Hz
Mode 67 : 1024x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 72Hz
Mode 68 : 1024x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 69 : 1024x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 85Hz
Mode 70 : 1024x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 71 : 1024x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 70Hz
Mode 72 : 1024x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 72Hz
Mode 73 : 1024x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 74 : 1024x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 85Hz
Mode 75 : 1152x864 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 76 : 1152x864 256 colours (8-bit) 70Hz
Mode 77 : 1152x864 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 78 : 1152x864 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 79 : 1152x864 64K HiColour (16-bit) 70Hz
Mode 80 : 1152x864 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 81 : 1152x864 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 82 : 1152x864 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 70Hz
Mode 83 : 1152x864 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 84 : 1280x768 256 colours (8-bit) 56Hz
Mode 85 : 1280x768 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 86 : 1280x768 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 87 : 1280x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 56Hz
Mode 88 : 1280x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 89 : 1280x768 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 90 : 1280x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 56Hz
Mode 91 : 1280x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 92 : 1280x768 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 93 : 1280x960 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 94 : 1280x960 256 colours (8-bit) 70Hz
Mode 95 : 1280x960 256 colours (8-bit) 72Hz
Mode 96 : 1280x960 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 97 : 1280x960 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 98 : 1280x960 64K HiColour (16-bit) 70Hz
Mode 99 : 1280x960 64K HiColour (16-bit) 72Hz
Mode 100 : 1280x960 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 101 : 1280x960 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 102 : 1280x960 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 70Hz
Mode 103 : 1280x960 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 72Hz
Mode 104 : 1280x960 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 105 : 1280x1024 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 106 : 1280x1024 256 colours (8-bit) 70Hz
Mode 107 : 1280x1024 256 colours (8-bit) 75Hz
Mode 108 : 1280x1024 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 109 : 1280x1024 64K HiColour (16-bit) 70Hz
Mode 110 : 1280x1024 64K HiColour (16-bit) 75Hz
Mode 111 : 1280x1024 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 112 : 1280x1024 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 70Hz
Mode 113 : 1280x1024 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 75Hz
Mode 114 : 1600x1200 256 colours (8-bit) 60Hz
Mode 115 : 1600x1200 64K HiColour (16-bit) 60Hz
Mode 116 : 1600x1200 16M+ TrueColour (32-bit) 60Hz
Mode 117 : 640x480 16 colours (4-bit)
Mode 118 : 800x600 16 colours (4-bit)

Enhanced Video Settings
Animation Effects Enabled : Yes
Full Windows Drag Enabled : Yes
Font Smoothing Enabled : Yes
HighContrast Feature On : No

Device Mode Characteristics
Physical Medium Width : 270 mm, 11 in
Physical Medium Height : 203 mm, 8 in
Recommended CRT/Panel Size : 17 in
Horizontal/Vertical Resolution : 96x96 dpi
Colour Bits/Planes : 32 / 1 bit(s) pp
Brushes : 4294967295
Pens : 4294967295
Colours/Shades : 4294967295
Pixel Width/Height/Diagonal : 36 / 36 / 51

Driver Clipping Capabilities
Can Clip Output to Rectangle : Yes
Can Clip Output to Region : No

Driver Raster Capabilities
Supports Banding : No
Supports Fonts Larger than 64Kb : Yes
Can Transfer Bitmaps : Yes
Supports Bitmaps Larger than 64Kb : Yes
Supports Device Bitmaps : No
Supports DIBs : Yes
DIBs on Device Surface : Yes
Flood Fills : Yes
Supports Windows 2.x : Yes
Stretch/Compress Bitmaps : Yes
Stretch/Compress DIBs : Yes
Supports Scaling : No
Palette-Based Device : No
Saves Bitmap Locally : No

Driver Curve Capabilities
Can Draw Circles : Yes
Can Draw Ellipses : Yes
Can Draw Pie Wedges : Yes
Can Draw Chord Arcs : Yes
Can Draw Wide Borders : Yes
Can Draw Styled Borders : Yes
Can Draw Wide, Styled Borders : Yes
Can Draw Rounded Rectangles : Yes
Can Draw Interiors : Yes

Driver Line Capabilities
Can Draw Polylines : Yes
Can Draw Styled Lines : Yes
Can Draw Wide Lines : Yes
Can Draw Wide, Styled Lines : Yes
Can Draw Markers : Yes
Can Draw Polymarkers : Yes
Can Draw Interiors : Yes

Driver Polygonal Capabilities
Can Draw Alternate-fill Polygons : Yes
Can Draw Winding-fill Polygons : Yes
Can Draw Rectangles : Yes
Can Draw Scan Lines : Yes
Can Draw Wide Borders : Yes
Can Draw Styled Borders : Yes
Can Draw Wide, Styled Borders : Yes
Can Draw Interiors : Yes

Driver Text Capabilities
Supports Stroke Clip Precision : Yes
Supports Stroke Output Precision : Yes
Supports Character Output Precision : Yes
Supports 90° Character Rotation : No
Supports Any Angle Character Rotation : No
Supports Independent X-Y Scaling : No
Supports Doubled Character for Scaling : No
Supports Integer Multiples for Scaling : No
Any Multiples for Exact Scaling : No
Can Draw Double-Weighted Characters : No
Can Italicise : No
Can Underline : Yes
Can Draw Strikeouts : Yes
Can Draw Raster Fonts : Yes
Can Draw Vector Fonts : Yes
Cannot Scroll Using BitBlt : No

Hope that helps.
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The Sis 630 is a good graphic card and it does support 3d image I have used it before. Player your video card seems okay to me only that it may not be able to support 3d graphics but you can upgrade ur graphic card. To know whether your card can support 3D i need to know which Os u're usin. but the easiest way is to go to program files, direct x folder double click then click the tab for display it'll give you the full info you need to know
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cradle thanks for the help, but its ok, i've played the game and it seems to run fine and the graphics arent too bad.

So all in all, the graphics chip i have got is fine.
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Thats cool then. All that fuss for nothing :lol:

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Hi guys sorry for resuscitating the oooold topic but, i have the same problem as the guy above. I have a laptop and i have no idea on the graphics chip make and model. I downloaded Sandra and IT DIDN'T recognize a video graphics make or model, but under the chipset it gave some kind of intel code ... Uniwill computer Corp 82845G/GE/GL, now searching with the uniwill gave me nothing, but when i searched just with the number 82..GL i think it came out that it was a intel graphics chipset. I downloaded the driver, installed it (even though when i installed it it said that i had a newer driver :shock: maybe that is because of having SP2 installed in my WinXP). wheni restarted the PC after the windows logo the screen went black so the driver was not the appropriate one. I am madly trying to play command and conquer games but i can't because i need the latest graphic driver by what have i read. Actually on the system section of the control panel the video card is working with the default generic winxp drivers (it has the yellw question mark). Can anyone help identify my graphics card? And if i did identify it right why that driver didn't work? Thanks in advance!!~!

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