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Post December 13th, 2004, 2:45 am

5mins of video in any format will require more than 5MB of disk space. additionally you need to ensure that the mp3's you are publishing are done so with the permission of the copyright holder.

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SO, .swf is flash files ?
I never used flash, so I don't know.
And no, my website will not just be listing flash files but video files (.wav, .mp3) or whatever.
Frankly, whatever files people send me to list on my site, I will do it if I can.
You might aswell get your digital pencam out or webcam and create a file and then give it to me and I might put it on my website aslong as the video file is a testimonial to a product or service or website.
Understand now what I intend to do ?
I guess, such video files will be around 5MB in size (assuming each 5 mins in length) and if I have 100 different video files then that is 500MB worth of video files and if each visitor downloads them (assuming 100,000 visitors in a month) then that is 50,000 GB of bandwidth required !!!
Gosh !
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Post December 13th, 2004, 2:45 am

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Post December 13th, 2004, 2:54 am

It is my understanding that the TS is starting a site. Thus I doubt they have had resource issues with previous hosts. However to ensure they are qualified and/or capable of entering said agreement beyond the free trial we may require a subscription and/or valid credit card. I don't think it would be an unreasonsable request.

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Hi Uncensored - I dont think your post is out of line - however - I urge you to consider several things before making such generous offers.

Based on the OP's requirements - there are several things which would indicate to me that this customer needs to be thoroughly screened before offering a solution and allowing this customer on my cluster.

Judging by his post - he has run into problems with previous hosts (my interpretation) - I need to understand what these issues are - chances are - he/she has run into some bad hosts - but, the possibility also exists that the original poster has abused servers - particularly with cgi scripts (possibly home grown ones that arent particularly resource friendly)...

Though I respect your willingness to offer a solution - I caution you to screen users like this a little more thoroughly before giving them the keys to your house :)
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Post December 14th, 2004, 8:07 pm

You should set this up on your own computer and experiment to your hearts content. This is not what we signed up for. We made this offer so you could determine what resources the audio and video website you desired to launch would require. We did not agree to host you free of charge for three months on a production server so that you could experiment with hundreds of scripts that may be poorly written and/or threaten server stability. If you would like to stick to the original plan then our offer stands. If you wish to go this other route then we will have to withdraw our offer.

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Hi everyone,

Thanx for the offer Uncensored_Hosting ! :D
3 months free trial ? :shock:
Great !
Ok, I accept your offer. :D
But I also would like to tell you that I am starting to learn programming in Php and would use my website as an experiment.
I mean, I would write Php programs and execute them on my website to see how well the codes function and so please make sure that you take proper precations so that if my codes are ever badly written then they don't mess-up your servers.
I am thinking of running a "price comparison searchengine" like the ones mentioned here :

http://paler.com/us_international_price_comparison.html

Finally, if I ever finish my searchengine, then I will try to keep my searchengine based on the feed-back from netizens mentioned here regarding how to improve a price comparison searchengine :

http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives/000663.php

Wish me luck everyone !
:D

Frankly, I would appreciate it if everyone can post their comments on the "Price Comparison Searchengines" on the thread "Pros and Con features of the Price Comparison Searchengines" which I am just going to create on the "General Discussions" section.


Thanx everyone ! :D
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Post December 16th, 2004, 6:08 pm

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Hi Uncensored - I dont think your post is out of line - however - I urge you to consider several things before making such generous offers.

Based on the OP's requirements - there are several things which would indicate to me that this customer needs to be thoroughly screened before offering a solution and allowing this customer on my cluster.

Judging by his post - he has run into problems with previous hosts (my interpretation) - I need to understand what these issues are - chances are - he/she has run into some bad hosts - but, the possibility also exists that the original poster has abused servers - particularly with cgi scripts (possibly home grown ones that arent particularly resource friendly)...

Though I respect your willingness to offer a solution - I caution you to screen users like this a little more thoroughly before giving them the keys to your house :)


I agree, it is not wise to just throw the keys to anyone and I was abit shocked when I got the generous offer. Now, atleast I don't have to worry about band-width and can sleep at night.
And, what do you mean by "original poster" ?
You think that many people are using the nickname "onauc" ?
Why all these suspiciousness ?
Are you a webhosts ? Is that it ? Maybe, you got offended at my distrust of webhosts ? But you should not because I just was taking precautions against crook hosts and if you are not one then you have nothing to be offended at.

Ok, I have not been reading this thread lately and I don't like the sound of your interpretation :

" Judging by his post - he has run into problems with previous hosts (my interpretation) - I need to understand what these issues are - chances are - he/she has run into some bad hosts - but, the possibility also exists that the original poster has abused servers - particularly with cgi scripts (possibly home grown ones that arent particularly resource friendly)... "

You should not jump to conclusions without asking me first about my experiences.
What made you jump to conclusions ? It's not nice to see a host of a forum foul-mouthing me with-out any clear proof. How would you like it if I ivited you to my home and some others and then when you went to the toilet I was stabbing you at the back ?
Is it because I wanted to pay monthly ?
Oh I see, you thought, maybe I want to spam or install malicious scripts and know that I will get kicked off and so that is the reason why I don't want to pay yearly so I don't lose my whole year's payment on my 1st month ?
Is that what you thought ?
Read webhost review sites and you will see plain clearly that they always advise you to stay away from webhosts who advertise "unlimited band-width" and "unlimited webspace" and "unlimited this and unlimited that" and ask for "yearly payments" or even "half yearly payments" because nothing is "unlimited" and they always have a "limit" and if you go over that limit, such as band-width, then your traffic slows down their server that hosts other customers' websites which causes trouble for other customers and then they (the host) looks for excuses to shut you down.
I read on several occasions that if the webhost cannot come-up with a good excuse then they try the easiest trick in the book and make wild accusations that you have spammed and shut you down.
Now, as you know, I intend to run a website where audio-video clips will be available for download (I am quitting the idea of streaming).
This means, my website will consume a lot of band-width and sooner or later it is obvious that my so-called "unlimited host" will see my website with a crooked eye and bend-over backwards to shut me down.
Now, if I get shut down on the 1st month after paying a year's hosting then I get cheated 11 months.
Now, who wants that ?
Yes, I agree, my website will be trouble for those hosts who offer "unlimited webspace" and "unlimited band-width" because they won't be able to live upto their offers and then the blame would be on me (all for nothing).
I read some stories that the webhost accuses high traffic websites of spamming but when the website challenges to show proof (provide the spam message to check it's originating IP) the host claims that they deleted the spam message which was forwarded to them by the spam recipient etc.
Crooks these hosts are and many many websites (webhost reviews) warn us to stay well clear away from those who ask for annual payments. And that is why I said I want to pay monthly.
If any "buddy" host wants to dump me because of my traffic then hey bro do so but don't claim that I did something I did not do and don't steal my many months' payment with a lame excuse. You want to dump me, fine, I have nothing to lose because you ain't getting my money for the months you did not host my website. That's my motto. And I think this should be every-body else's too.
Look at it this way, once the host gets your yearly payment they won't bother to provide good customer service through-out the whole year because providing the customer service doesn't earn them anymore money so they have nothing to lose by not providing it.
There's a saying, keep your watch dog hungry and he will stay up all night guarding your premises because he will think if any thief gets in the thief will steal his food that is waiting in line for him and so the watch dog will watch over your premises but if you feed him in the evening then he'll go to sleep and won't even bother to watch over the night. Why bother ? he has already got his supper for the night.
Employ a worker today. What will you do ? Will you pay him in advance for a whole year before he starts the work for you ? Do that, and you won't see his face again because he'll just go and work some-where else. But you won't get your money back. That's a bonus for him and he is going to spend that xtra on beer.
Webhosts are like employees and the watch dog. Pay yearly upfront and they'll go to sleep when it comes to giving you support.

And no, I have never used a paid host before and that's one of the other reasons why I am nervous and don't trust paid hosts too much and am too skeptical about them especially after reading these review websites.

I have used free hosts before but never installed backend scripts.
I tried on one but for some reason their cgi-bin was not working properly and I quit them. That was probably a year ago and ever since then I never bothered to make a website.
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Post December 16th, 2004, 7:31 pm

Hi onauc,

I used "original poster" to refer to you to a 3rd party - nothing more, nothing less.

I think you are being a little overly sensitive -

If you read my posts carefully - I 1) encouraged you to pay monthly and 2) provided you the best, most honest advise I could.

Accordingly, I also provided another poster (a fellow hosting provider) the best advise I could. As much as I want to protect consumers from bad hosts, I also want to protect hosting providers from potentially problematic clients. Although it was just a guess on my part - based on your requirements listed and my experience - you have proven to me that my original "hunch" was right:

onauc wrote:
But I also would like to tell you that I am starting to learn programming in Php and would use my website as an experiment.
I mean, I would write Php programs and execute them on my website to see how well the codes function


I am not trying to offend you - however, this type of situation is not something most reputable hosts would want to take on. After all - would you want your site affected because someone else on the server was testing a poorly written script?
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Post December 17th, 2004, 6:24 am

[quote="Uncensored-Hosting"]5mins of video in any format will require more than 5MB of disk space. additionally you need to ensure that the mp3's you are publishing are done so with the permission of the copyright holder.
[quote="onauc"]

I just noticed you are a student ! All this time I thought you was a middle-aged man. :oops:

Anyway, don't worry, I won't be distributing any copyrighted stuffs or music files or even porn for that matter.
The audios-videos will be purely :

1. product ad
2. product review
3. service ad
4. service review
5. website review
6. customer testimonials
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Post December 17th, 2004, 6:36 am

CartikaHosting wrote:
Hi onauc,

I used "original poster" to refer to you to a 3rd party - nothing more, nothing less.

I think you are being a little overly sensitive -

If you read my posts carefully - I 1) encouraged you to pay monthly and 2) provided you the best, most honest advise I could.

Accordingly, I also provided another poster (a fellow hosting provider) the best advise I could. As much as I want to protect consumers from bad hosts, I also want to protect hosting providers from potentially problematic clients. Although it was just a guess on my part - based on your requirements listed and my experience - you have proven to me that my original "hunch" was right:

onauc wrote:
But I also would like to tell you that I am starting to learn programming in Php and would use my website as an experiment.
I mean, I would write Php programs and execute them on my website to see how well the codes function


I am not trying to offend you - however, this type of situation is not something most reputable hosts would want to take on. After all - would you want your site affected because someone else on the server was testing a poorly written script?


Don't worry, I told uncensored_hosting that I'll stick to my original plan which means I'll quit the idea of running my webscript experiments.
And no, I am not being a bit too sensitive cos you could have asked me things first to clear your doubts/suspicions before back-biting. Ok, I'll forgive you this time but just don't do it again. If you suspect anyone of anything then first ask them more questions to confirm your suspicions before biting.
And yes, I am happy about your past inputs to me. :D

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