Mac OSX Leopard on PC Rig?

October 27th, 2007, 12:32 am

Being among the millions who are getting excited to taste the OS of the future, i fumbled to ask: Do Leopard run on PCs intended for Windows? The question emanates from the fact that new breeds of Mac are already Intel-based. Do my questions holds ground? If the new OSX do run on PC rigs, would it be as easy as flushing my Windows Vista-run rig then install the Leoprd seamlessly? Any knowlegable opinions would be highly appreciated.

October 27th, 2007, 7:49 am

People have been known to get OS X running on Windows-based Intel machines, but it's piracy and you won't find info about it here. Even if the OS were technically cable of being run on non-Apple hardware, doing so violates the EULA.

October 27th, 2007, 11:24 pm

why? does the EULA provides that Leopard should only installed in Mac? if that's so, Apple may have missed the opportunity of a bigger potential market.

Experience in installing OSX on PC is not that smooth. Drivers is the big problem.


But then i deduce, buying an OSX and installing on PC rigs is not a piracy. It may violate EULA, but its not piracy.

October 29th, 2007, 7:40 am

Leopard has to be hacked to be installed on non-Apple hardware. Whatever you want to call it, it's illegal.

October 30th, 2007, 6:29 am

http://www.informationweek.com/shared/p ... =202603020

But yes, when you buy Leopard, you are agreeing NOT to do that kind of thing.

I am kind of looking forward to leopard. I am going to wait a couple months before I buy just to be safe. I've got a couple third party x11 programs that apparently run a little rough under 10.5, so I think I will let those get fixed before I buy.

[spork]

October 31st, 2007, 10:30 am

My roommate just bought it. It's gorgeous. Nearly every part of the OS (visual-wise) uses Core Animation now, and it's spectacular.

October 31st, 2007, 1:54 pm

I am very very tempted to do it. Other than that X11 third party software thing, the only other problem I've heard of is pretty stupid. Oh no! The firewall is turned off by default! It's insecure, everybody panic! ...so then why don't you just turn it on? Duh!

November 9th, 2007, 8:38 am

Again, another temptation to slash my budget for an 800cc bike im planning to buy this dec. A friend introduced a new desktop supercomputer in the name of Mac PRO 8 cores which is bundled with the new leopard. Simply irrestible!
Hope Apple would offer free hot fixes for that minor glitches, kcotma, so i wont regret opting for a lesser displacement bike in favor of a leopard running on an 8 core machine. Whew Leopard! Why cant Microsoft create a better Os?

November 9th, 2007, 9:23 am

I have been reading a bit about those x11 things, and it seems to be a bug in the Leopard X11 itself, but there has already been a patch released. So maybe I will think about putting $130 aside and get myself a birthday present next week. That 8 core mac pro...holy cow! I've spec'ed that one out more than once in the mac store, but I just don't have the thousands and thousands of dollars to get it. It's getting to the point with hard drive speeds and memory capacity and processor throughput that the computers are soooooo fast, us humans are the bottleneck now.

November 9th, 2007, 7:33 pm

kc0tma wrote:

That 8 core mac pro...holy cow! I've spec'ed that one out more than once in the mac store, but I just don't have the thousands and thousands of dollars to get it. It's getting to the point with hard drive speeds and memory capacity and processor throughput that the computers are soooooo fast, us humans are the bottleneck now.

You are right kcotma, "we humans are the bottleneck now". Software developers have a grand time pacing up with those hardwares. where are the voice recognition technology? the mathematical modeling algorithm for hurricane predictions? simulation forecast for global virus outbreak? c'mon! Mac Pro has given us the power tool, we need those applications fast.....

by the way, I have just realized this machine isnt for my bedroom. the price tag is soooo much out of my budget. maybe the best way to get a touch of this machine is to prod my office to buy one. New 8-core Mac Pro would be great in Remote Sensing and GIS solutions....

November 10th, 2007, 9:43 am

Yeah, we got a cool machine with two dual core processors for one of our civil engineers at work, 4 gigs ram, SLi video cards, and dual 24 inch monitors. He doesn't totally need that much power just for running autocad, but his department was willing to pay for it so we got quotes and ordered it (something like 4 grand I think). And as far as the hurricane modeling goes, there is already stuff to do that...if you can afford an IBM Blue Gene supercomputer. I remember playing around with 3d modeling of weather system stuff on the national weather service website not too long ago. And there is the Boinc thing too, you sign up with them and install their software, and while your computer is idle, it downloads raw data and processes it and uploads it when ever it finishes. Thats basically just cloud computing. That 8 core mac pro would be sooo cool, I'm drooling just thinking about it. And you'de have to get at least two big monitors to go with it too.

November 13th, 2007, 3:47 pm

Step by step:
http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-att ... 321913.php

December 15th, 2007, 5:11 am

Thayk wrote:

Why cant Microsoft create a better Os?

because they're microsoft..? lol the first product they make that doesn't suck will be a vacuum cleaner..

December 18th, 2007, 12:01 pm

AnarchY SI wrote:

Thayk wrote:

Why cant Microsoft create a better Os?

because they're microsoft..? lol the first product they make that doesn't suck will be a vacuum cleaner..

I would say you have a very narrow minded view. Apple design's its operating systems for specific hardware and thus it is optimised for the systems it is running on. Windows will run on anything. Thus windows will always struggle to compare to the mac OSX.

The mac is more secure but this is down to the fact that only like 3% of people have a mac. There are less viruses for it and thus it is less vulnerable to attack. If the mac was the main OS then perhaps apples security record would be a little more patchy.

December 18th, 2007, 1:19 pm

JasonStanley wrote:

Windows will run on anything. Thus windows will always struggle to compare to the mac OSX.

There are less viruses for it and thus it is less vulnerable to attack. If the mac was the main OS then perhaps apples security record would be a little more patchy.

Windows don't run on an PPC macs, and it only runs on the intel macs because apple made bootcamp and has appropriate drivers. Something interesting-when I was shopping for a laptop, I did a part for part comparison between the macbook and other laptops, the only one that had a pretty-darn-close hardware setup was a sony vaio, and it costed quite a bit more money.

And as far as the mac OS being less vulnerable, that is a pretty big bad misconception that everybody seems to have thanks to the mac vs. pc commercials. It just has different vulnerabilities than a windows pc. Lets imagine that a hacker is a cowboy, and that cowboy is out in the wild west (the internet) hunting, he see's a bunny rabbit (the macs) and a buffalo (PCs), which is his easiest target to shoot? The buffalo is bigger than the bunny and has more meat for food (more people usually equals more money), so he hunts for the buffalo. Since there are only 3%(?) of people using macs, that other 95-97% is an easier target, and the hacker can just do a huge mass attack, and he is bound to get what he wants out of at least a few victims.