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On my old system, when I created my account password, it asked, "Do you want to make your files and folders private?", and I answered "Yes, Make Private".

Now, I want to access my files, and I cannot!

I only have Windows XP Home (I say this as some solutions on the Internet apply only to functionality available in Windows XP Professional).

How can I access my old "privatized" files and folders?
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How are you connecting to the 'old system'? Where are those files located and where are you now? What is the old system and what error message are you getting?
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I'm not sure if Home Edition has this feature, so go to Folder Options > View and check if there is an option called Use simple file sharing. If yes, reply here and I'll post the remaining instructions.
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I'm not sure if Home Edition has this feature, so go to Folder Options > View and check if there is an option called Use simple file sharing. If yes, reply here and I'll post the remaining instructions.


Sorry, XP Home does not have that feature! :(
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Sorry, I don't know of another method right now. Will let you know if I find one.
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Microsoft gives the same solution as you:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

And they say it applies to:
• Microsoft Windows XP Professional
• Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

But this is wrong... there is no "Use simple file sharing (Recommended)" check box under "Advanced Settings" where they say to look.
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If you answer my questions about your setup, I may be able to find another way.
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Sorry, I completely missed this post somehow until now...

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How are you connecting to the 'old system'? Where are those files located and where are you now? What is the old system and what error message are you getting?

The old hard drive is the same hard drive I am using now, only before I re-installed Windows XP Home on it, I deleted all files and folders off of it except for the "Documents and Settings" folder which I renamed to "old matthew's stuff" to avoid duplicate files/folders name problems. So I now have "old matthew's stuff" with my old desktop and favorites (in IE) that I cannot access!

The error message is this (as copied directly from the dialog window):
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C:\old matthew's stuff\Matthew
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C:\old matthew's stuff\Matthew\Desktop is not accessible.

Access is denied.

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OK
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Boot into safe mode by restarting the PC and press F8.
Logon as an administrator
Disable simple file sharing (only way to do it in XP Home)
Right click the folder and click properties
Click the security tab
Click the Advanced Button
Click the Owner tab
Make sure the owner is your username and apply the changes if any were made
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Boot into safe mode by restarting the PC and press F8.
Logon as an administrator
Disable simple file sharing (only way to do it in XP Home)
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I rebooted into safe mode, loggedi in as administrator, and I cannot find the option to disable file sharing. It is not found where http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881 says it should be found (Start, My Computer, Tools menu, Folder Options, View tab, Advanced Settings, Use simple file sharing (Recommended)). Is it in another location?

For what it's worth, I continued without disabling simple file sharing, unsuccessfully. I was able to enter the main user folder, named "Matthew", and see its contents, but was unable to enter any folders contained within "Matthew".
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Is your drive formatted as NTFS of FAT32?
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grinch2171 wrote:
Is your drive formatted as NTFS of FAT32?

NTFS
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Just checking.

Use simple file sharing (Recommended) is the last option in advanced settings of the view tab. That is the only place it should be.
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Just checking.

Use simple file sharing (Recommended) is the last option in advanced settings of the view tab. That is the only place it should be.


It is not there. I will take a screenshot to show everyone. This is Windows XP Home that came with a Dell... I wonder if that matters?
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Here is a thought. While logged is as Administrator in safe mode go to the Matthew folder and right click it and select properties. Go to the security tab and add your user account to the list and give yourself Full Control.
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Windows XP uses something called "Simple File Sharing." You can disable it in XP Professional, but not XP Home.
- http://www.wikihow.com/Disable-Simple-F ... me-Edition
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grinch2171 wrote:
Here is a thought. While logged is as Administrator in safe mode go to the Matthew folder and right click it and select properties. Go to the security tab and add your user account to the list and give yourself Full Control.

I will try this now...
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grinch2171 wrote:
Here is a thought. While logged is as Administrator in safe mode go to the Matthew folder and right click it and select properties. Go to the security tab and add your user account to the list and give yourself Full Control.

I will try this now...

I tried this, and it still does not work. There are so many options that I may be doing it incorrectly. I even tried deleting all the users or accounts, so that nobody and had permissions, and then added users or accounts (not sure what they are called) back in and give them all full permission ("full control" I think it was called)... but this did not work either.
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According to http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf ... 14007B145B the Microsoft fix at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881/ works, but only if you have Windows XP Pro. I have XP Home, so this does not help me. :(

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If you have XP Pro there is no problem :) (Must have XP Pro)
I have customers come in all the time with this issue.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881/
If you don't have XP Pro you can connect your HDD to a Pro system and do it that way.
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This is another reason I dislike XP Home.
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I should never have made my files/folders private... this is ridiculous. I have administrative abilities, and I cannot access files off my hard drive! I have found records of people doing this successfully on the Internet, but i cannot duplicate what they have done (their directions are always a little too vague to follow accurately).
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Windows XP Home Edition-based computers always have Simple File Sharing enabled. - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040

...the exact thing am I supposed to shut off in Microsoft's fix http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881!
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You could try using a live CD like Knoppix to access the hard drive and copy files over if you are really desperate.


http://www.knoppix.net/
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Good idea, grinch2171... Can Windows 98 access NTFS drives? I have a boot CD for win98 on one of these Dell CDs (for some reason one of the CDs comes with it).

EDIT... answered my own question:

Win98 does not come with NTFS support, as showcased by Sysinternals' "NTFS for Windows 98" which Microsoft has taken offline:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22NTFS+ ... dows+98%22
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You could try using a live CD like Knoppix to access the hard drive and copy files over if you are really desperate.

http://www.knoppix.net/
Just searching on the 'net to see if supports NTFS... do you know if it does? I keep finding stuff like this: http://developers.slashdot.org/article. ... /10/191202
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Yes it does.
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Avast!, on a pre-Windows boot scan, accesses those files and folders. Is there anyway to get to the command prompt *before* Windows boots up, near the same moment in "time" when Avast! can access the drive in full, without distraction?
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Warning to anyone else downloading Knoppix... some of the mirrors do *not* have the latest version. So do not judge what is the latest version by looking at whatever is on a random mirror! ;)
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Just a thought while waiting for Knoppix to download... if i were to copy the files/folders using Knoppix, would the permissions be copied along with them?
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As far as getting to the command line before boot up you could using the recovery console.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058

I honestly can't say about using Knoppix to copy stuff, I just know people have done it, I am no way an expert on using it.
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