seeing accounts accross a workgroup

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Hi,

I'm new to this forum in which I already found some
helpfull information. However I have an usolved question.
I have two computers (one under XP Pro, the other under
2000 pro) both connected to a WiFi router linksys WRT54G.
The laptop, under 2000, is via 802.11b.
I understood that without a server I could only build
a network with the workgroup functionality.
I´m seeing both computers in my workgroup (home).
I can share folders. But,
Is there a way to see on a computer the user accounts
defined on the other computer ?
I would like to define the rights other than "everybody"
to the shared folders.
When defining user rights I only have access to the
accounts defined on the computer on which I am
and cannot change the computer so as to get the
accounts defined on the other computer.

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Both XP and Win2K will work the same way.


You will need to make changes in two places for each folder you want to share. Right Click the folder you have shared and click the Sharing tab. Click Permissions. Click Add. This will bring up a list of all user accounts on that computer. Add the user account/s that you want (I strongly recommend making sure at least one is an administrative account.) After you've added the acounts, click everyone once to highlight it and click remove. Highlight each account you have added one at a time and assign the permissions you want.

Next go to the security tab. Do the same thing there. (Before you remove everyone, uncheck the box that says Allow inheritable permissions to propogate to this folder. When you do this you will get an alert box with instructions. Read and follow the instructions. -- I usually just choose copy).

The reason you make the change in both tabs is because they do different things. The sharing tab controls permissions for users accessing over the network. The Security tab permissions are for those users logged into that workstation locally. The more restrictive of the two will apply, so if the security permissions say that everyone can do everything, but the sharing permissions say that a user can only read, then that's all that user can do. However if the remote user has full sharing permissions, but the local security settings are set to read only, the local policy will over ride the sharing policy.

If a user does not exist on both machines, you may need to add an account for them.

Hope that helps.
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Hi,

thanks for these inputs.
I'll check the consitency between Share and Security tabs
eventhough, as I said, currently every share is working
properly.
However, more precisely than in my previous mail :
When I do Sharing/Permissions/Add
the first component in the window is a drop-down list
with the name of the computer on which I am
and I can only add users that are defined on this computer.
The list is disabled. I would have liked to be able
to select with this list the other computer and thus have access
to the users defined on the other computer.
Basically I want, on Desktop to share and add rights
for \\Laptop\user_x.

hope it clarifies.

Note that I do not quite understand your last comment :
make sure users are defined on both PCs
do you mean user names (i.e. login) ?
It is already the case I have an account on both computers
with the same login/pwd but how can these be viewed as the same
as they are on different computers ?
(side question, the one I care the most for is the first one ;-)
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the first component in the window is a drop-down list
with the name of the computer on which I am
and I can only add users that are defined on this computer.
The list is disabled.


The dropdown will be disabled. You can only add users that have accounts on that computer.

However the list of user accounts underneath should be accessible. If they are not, make sure you are logged in as an administrator account for the computer. If you do not have administrative rights, you may need to get the person who does to log in and set it up for you. If the user list is not greyed out, then all you have to do is click each user you want once to highlight it and click Add, then click OK. You can add multiple users before clicking OK.
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Here's a very good tutorial on Sharing with XP:

http://www.quepublishing.com/articles/a ... sp?p=30421

And here's one for Windows 2000
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBH/tip3800/rh3842.htm
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So you confirm that there is no way to see
on a computer the user accounts that are defined on the other.
And that the only way to give access to user accounts of the other
computer on this one, is to let everybody have the rights
instead of specifying them explicitly.

right ?


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So you confirm that there is no way to see
on a computer the user accounts that are defined on the other.


Essentially for a workgroup that is correct. Using Everyone is a convenient workaround but not very restrictive.

In your case your user account exists on both with the same login. You should have no problems in either direction by adding yourself to the shared permissions.

Let's take this scenario. User A exists on XP but does not have an account on Win2K. In this case there is no way to assign share permissions for user A on the Win2K computer. Therefore when user A attempts to access the share on Win2K User A will get an Access Denied message. However, if Everyone is granted permission on Win2K, User A should have access.

The above should be correct. My apologies if it is not. It's been a long time since I set permissions for workgroups. I'm used to doing it with domains where permissions are set at domain level. Domain users do not need accounts on every machine as long as they are logged in and authenticated on the domain.
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Hi,

thanks for the help.
Indeed working with domain makes this easier than with
workgroups. But I only have 2 or 3 PCs and don't have
Windows Server neither ...
But I do not think that what you described works as in workgroups
the accounts are only defined locally.
The accounts on a workgrouped PC are \\PC\user
and as I can not access the other PC in the disabled drop-down list
I can't give rights to \\OtherPC\sameUserName nor
to \\OtherPC\otherUserName on PC.

thanks alot.
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Best of luck with it. The two links I provided earlier may help you work through it.

Personally, I categorize setting permissions as one of the most disliked aspects of my job. It's extremely confusing when you are new at it, and doesn't seem to get any easier with time. I almost always screw something up when I start going about changing permissions. I hate it!

(It get's really scary when you think about in some large companies, that there are people who's job is soley to do this!)

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