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Post 3+ Months Ago

sysprep,

anyone have any good experience with sysprep xp pro
I have customized xp pro with apps and other reg fixes I need. I want
to make an image of it now. Is it a good idea to run sysprep for this.
I tried to run it but I dont know what the best choices are

I ran sysprep choice factory?

not sure that is the best I think mini set up is better any advice

thanks
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if you're sending an image to dell, why do you want to use sysprep??

all they need is an image on cd and they can reproduce your image over
any number of workstations as needed. They will also include a copy of
that image cd in the box for each workstation in case you need to rerun
it for any reason.

I used to do mass installs for dell at numerous types of locations, and I
never ran into any company that even bothered with sysprep if dell was
doing the work for them.

I guess I'm just confused on what you really need, but I was sure I
already said this before.

Is ghost not a viable option in this case???
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I think it is I just want to image a machine on how I want it I gues then I dont need to bother with sysprep.

None the less how do I image a machine to I need to install ghost on the machine I want imaged then send it to a networked drive. IN this case wont it image ghost as an app on the machine

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yes, but you need it installed on any machine you wish to image. unless
you plan to tote the cd around with you, then you'll have to install it
anyway as well just leave it.

as i said before, you're going to have to have a post-image checklist to
go over each and every time you join the pc to a domain anyway. So,
just add the an item to remove ghost from the program menu.

...takes 6 seconds. ;)
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you need to run sysprep on a xp image to reset the activation grace period.
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really? as many times as I've ran an XP image from ghost, I have never
had to do this. I have 40+ workstations, all imaged from the same
image, and have been running for more than 6 months without any
problems. Can you tell me why you say this has to be done?

Seems like an unnecessary extra step to me.
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Hey all

Sysprep is obviously a Microsoft tool and with all Microsoft tools there is a reason to use them.

Sysprep removes the unique security identifier that is associated with the workstation - this SID is used when connecting the PC to a Win2K - Win2k03 domain enviroment. The SID is not used in other scenario.
(Ghost's Sidwalker does the same function after the image has been applied)


You can also include other drivers in a sysprep image and also include other IDE controller references for installtion of mulitple configured machines.

There are other reasons for using sysprep but all in all it's down to the user choice.

Any question don't hesitate to ask.


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ahh, the brainwashed Microsoft professional....heheeh :twisted:
I know, because I'm a recovered addict myeslf. ;)

I've been a MCSE for 3 yrs now, and it's all on how you want to look at it,
as with most things. For the most part, I agree with what you are saying
but it's not imperative to the function of the pc to use sysprep. That's
really all I was saying.

I'm not saying to skip it, nor am I saying that it's wrong --
In every exam I took (8), Microsoft uses the phrase I live by:
"least amount of administrative effort." As I said before, it's an
unnecessary extra step. ;)
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I probably didn't explain myself properly.

i agree entirley unflux..

There's probably a scenario somewhere that sysprep is the answer.

Sounds like we're singing from the same hymn sheet.

8)
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Ok so interms of sysprep I do have an active directory network do I need
to use sysprep for my image.

I have about um say 5 apps that I am going to install as well.

in GHost what is the best choice backup / clone. I have ghost running on the machine xp pro, with my apps and I want to create my image.
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As far as the SID removal process is concerned Ghost has (or had) a util called SidWalker.

Secondaly (unless things have changed) you do not need to install Ghost on the PC your imaging, if you have another pc your not imaging then you can create a set of boot disks (including network boot disks).


All in all sysprep isn't 100% neccessary.

I've used Drive Image to create images with and without Sysprep.
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ok If I install ghost on say a machine in my workgroup. which I currently have, ie windows xp pro lets say, Can I go into my network with the boot disks and somehow image the machine I use the boot disks from?

I have a machine in my network that I want to image the hd drive. as its getting old and I want to make sure I have a good image backup just incase. Can I use the boot disks to create the image

Thanks
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Hi,

I came across this topic and have questions. If I understand you guys correctly, I can create a Windows XP image, and copy it onto other PC's without sysprep.

Does this cause any problems on a server using active directory? NT server 4?
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Howdy,

Just remember there are two primary methods of cloning using Ghost. Both methods require a machine running the Ghost Console, and is suited to varying numbers of machines.

1. Individually (Small numbers). You can create a bootdisk which allows you to join a session in conjunction with the Ghost CONSOLE. once connected you can start the image transfer. This method requires you to visit the destination machine. It's quick, simple, and requires a bit of setting up post-image.

2. Remotely (Large group). Remotely installing the Ghost CLIENT software and virtual boot partition, on the destination machines, allows you to target these machines from wherever the CONSOLE is installed. If imaging multiple machines, sysprep can ensure unique SID's, generate sequential machine names, static IP's, domain additions etc etc...

If you are doing one or two machines...the administrative overhead of sysprep is huge and, in my opinion, unwarranted. When you start getting into hundreds of machines then sysprep opens a whole new door of efficient possibilities and is well worth your learning.

Cheers

Rob
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