XP with shared folders, some say access denied to Vista.

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Aloha !


This is to weird to actually ask but I have searched and searched and searched and........

Anyway... The problem exists in my moms network, so if I get some advice don't be mad if i don't react right away,
I have to drive to my moms house, no RPD there, and try it...

So what the BLEEP is going on...
My moms bought a new pre installed PC with Windows Vista so we formatted her old PC and installed XP.
This PC is just standing in the corner with uTorrent and E-mule being busy.
So far so good.

I have a folder on the XP-machine called E:\Downloads and it is shared (DUH)
The Vista machine has a network drive N: (\\download-bak\E-downloads)
I can see this folder in the Vista machine...
Still good right ? Wrong...

Lets just say these folders have been made by uTorrent :

E:\Downloads\Bugsbunny-adventure
E:\Downloads\Watchmen
E:\Downloads\Zion-treasures-of-the-wild

From the Vista machine I double click : N:\Downloads\Watchmen
And get the message : Access denied.

I go back to the XP machine and make a 4th folder in Windows Explorer like :

E:\Downloads\Bugsbunny-adventure
E:\Downloads\Test-folder
E:\Downloads\Watchmen
E:\Downloads\Zion-treasures-of-the-wild

I put some files in the folder and go back to the Vista machine.
From the Vista machine I double click : N:\Downloads\Test-folder : and voila, I see the content of that folder !

Since I CAN make my own folders like : E:\Downloads\Test-folder : and read those using the Vista machine.
Thus, I copied the folder : E:\Downloads\Bugsbunny-adventure : using the [CTRL]+[C] / [CTRL]+[V] keys.

The following folders now reside in the XP machine :

E:\Downloads\Bugsbunny-adventure
E:\Downloads\Copy of Bugsbunny-adventure
E:\Downloads\Test-folder
E:\Downloads\Watchmen
E:\Downloads\Zion-treasures-of-the-wild


The folders I now CAN read on the Vista machine :
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E:\Downloads\Copy of Bugsbunny-adventure
E:\Downloads\Test-folder


The folders I now can NOT read on the Vista machine :
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E:\Downloads\Bugsbunny-adventure
E:\Downloads\Watchmen
E:\Downloads\Zion-treasures-of-the-wild


So it appears I can only ready files/folder that are NOT downloaded from the internet......
Can it be that applications like uTorrent run under different user names ?


So what have I checked already :
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- The two PC's are in the same domain :Leeuw
- The two PC's both have a user called Gerri with the same pwd
- User Gerri on the XP machines and the Vista machine is member of the Administrator group
- All the files in E:\Downloads have the same owner : Gerri
- I linked the N:-drive on the Vista machine using the user download-bak\Gerri and the pwd
- No other users besides Gerri are connected to the XP-machine
- The event and security logs stay empty, no errors like : Unknown user
- I even enabled the guest on the XP machine
- When I ping download-bak on the Vista machine I get the correct IP (192.168.1.100)
- The Vista machine has 192.168.1.101 and the same subnet 255.255.255.0
- Installed all updates and patches on both Windows machines
- Disable firewall on both machines
- Disable Viruskiller on both machines


Soooooooo


If ANYONE can help my poor lil' ma, I'd be much obliged...


Thanks for you time !!!!


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Your post is confusing. When you say "The folders I now CAN read on the Vista machine", you mean 'from' the Vista machine because the E: drive is on XP.

"The Vista machine has a network drive N: (\\download-bak\E-downloads)"
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Why are there 2 \\ before download-bak if it's part of a path on the N: drive?

"- When I ping download-bak on the Vista machine I get the correct IP (192.168.1.100)
- The Vista machine has 192.168.1.101 and the same subnet 255.255.255.0"

If download-bak is the name of the Vista machine, why do your quotes about the IP addresses conflict?
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"- The two PC's are in the same domain :Leeuw"

There is no domain. You mean a workgroup.
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Check the permissions on the Download folder on the XP machine. And then make sure those permissions are the same on the folders within that folder.
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Aloha !

Don2007 wrote:
Your post is confusing. When you say "The folders I now CAN read on the Vista machine", you mean 'from' the Vista machine because the E: drive is on XP.

"The Vista machine has a network drive N: (\\download-bak\E-downloads)"
__________
Why are there 2 \\ before download-bak if it's part of a path on the N: drive?

"- When I ping download-bak on the Vista machine I get the correct IP (192.168.1.100)
- The Vista machine has 192.168.1.101 and the same subnet 255.255.255.0"

If download-bak is the name of the Vista machine, why do your quotes about the IP addresses conflict?
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Confusing ? Oh sorry about that...

Drive N: on the Vista is connected to the network path
The network path to the XP machine is \\download-bak\E-downloads

The XP machine named Download-bak hss 192.168.1.100
The Vista machine has 192.168.1.101

No conflict here....



Don2007 wrote:
"- The two PC's are in the same domain :Leeuw"

There is no domain. You mean a workgroup.

Oops my bad.... Workgroup :D



Grrrrrrrrrrreets !


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Aloha mr Grinch...

grinch2171 wrote:
Check the permissions on the Download folder on the XP machine. And then make sure those permissions are the same on the folders within that folder.


Well if it was THAT simple I would not have posted here :lol:


Greets !


Jessy


PS: 6 months to X-Mas !
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Login to the XP machine and navigate to the download folder. Right click the download folder and select properties. Click on the sharing tab and then click the permissions button. For security purposes you do not want this to be set to the Everyone Group. I would only specify the user(s) or groups(s) you want to give permission to. Once that is done go over to the security tab and do the same thing. Remove the Everyone Group and specify who you want to give permissions to. Then check each folder inside the download folder and make sure the security tab properties are the same.
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Aloha mr Grinch...

grinch2171 wrote:
Login to the XP machine and navigate to the download folder. Right click the download folder and select properties. Click on the sharing tab and then click the permissions button. For security purposes you do not want this to be set to the Everyone Group. I would only specify the user(s) or groups(s) you want to give permission to. Once that is done go over to the security tab and do the same thing. Remove the Everyone Group and specify who you want to give permissions to. Then check each folder inside the download folder and make sure the security tab properties are the same.



As I said before, if it was THAT simple, I would not post here... lol
But since you never know what Windowz does, I checked it again...
Same as before : All files/direcories have "Everyone" full control (done for testing).

What does strike me as odd :
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uTorrent starts under the user "Gerri", who is an Admin.
Anything downloaded by uTorrent, is not accessible on the Vista Machine.
When I log in with user "Gerri" on the XP machine, I can read every thing...





Cheeeeeeeeers !!!


Jessy


PS: I already formatted my E-drive on the XP machine and made an entirely new folder. Didn't work...
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jecepede, had you stated up front that you had tried that step, rather than saying 'if it was THAT simple', then we wouldn't have misinterpreted. I took it the same as grinch - that you didn't know how to check that. We get all levels of knowledge here, so be sure to help us figure out where you stand with your replies. We're not mind readers. ;)
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Aloha !

UPSGuy wrote:
jecepede, had you stated up front that you had tried that step, rather than saying 'if it was THAT simple', then we wouldn't have misinterpreted. I took it the same as grinch - that you didn't know how to check that. We get all levels of knowledge here, so be sure to help us figure out where you stand with your replies. We're not mind readers. ;)


I stand corrected, you are totally right...

Mr Grinch/UPSguy/Don2007, If I have offended you (or anyone else) in any way,
I regret and I'm sorry. It's just that this problem has gotten on my nerves....



Humble cheers,


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No worries, just trying to help you get the assistance you're looking for. If the others are like me, then a smirk response probably discourages them from taking the time to help.

Moving along...

I've heard of issue between the two before. *quick google search* Have a look at this article and see if it describes your issue. If so, there's a registry trick there that you may want to try.
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Hi UPSguy,


Ok I logged onto the XP-machine Download-bak with remote desktop and did the folowing :

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1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then double-click the following registry subkey: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
3. On the right side, double-click restrictanonymous.
4. Make sure that the value in the Value data box is set to 0, and then click OK.
5. Close Registry Editor.
6. Restart the computer.
  1. 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
  2. 2. Locate and then double-click the following registry subkey: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
  3. 3. On the right side, double-click restrictanonymous.
  4. 4. Make sure that the value in the Value data box is set to 0, and then click OK.
  5. 5. Close Registry Editor.
  6. 6. Restart the computer.


At step step four I saw the restrictanonymous was already set to "0"
There also was a key called : restrictanonymoussam

I played a bit around with the settings but it didn't make any difference...


Still OI think it is something with rights. Here is one of my previous posts :

Jecepede wrote:
What does strike me as odd :
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uTorrent starts under the user "Gerri", who is an Admin.
Anything downloaded by uTorrent, is not accessible on the Vista Machine.
When I log in with user "Gerri" on the XP machine by remote desktop, I can read every thing...



Can it be that a remote desktop users is in another group than normal users ?



Cheeeeeeeeeeers


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It shouldn't alter the rights of the user - whatever you log in as should be what rights you're working with. :( Have you tried to install an app or open admin tools while remoted in to see if it gripes about administrator rights?
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are you running uTorrent while trying to access the folders? Vista and xp have trouble working together in this aspect, so you may be getting the "Access denied" because xp is writing to that folder while you're trying to access it via the vista comp. Try shutting down uTorrent and then attempt to access the folders via the network drive. If that doesn't work than I'm at a loss

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