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Post June 23rd, 2004, 8:29 am

I normally hold 4th-5th place on certain keywords on google. Now if I
type either the "Keyword" or my sites Name "ToyWiz.com" no results
will show.
I update the meta tags religiously and now my site is nowhere to be
found even if the sites name used as a keyword on the search.
Can someone please tell me what has happened ...err...does anyone know what happened?
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Post June 23rd, 2004, 8:29 am

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Post June 23rd, 2004, 8:45 am

google has been shifting alot today, u are bound to expect a few changes, just give google time to settle
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Post June 23rd, 2004, 8:45 am

I think you should also simplify your META and TITLE 8)

<head><meta name="Keywords" content="yugioh, yu-gi-oh cards, duelmaster cards, evo-crushinators, beyblade, games,transformers, lotr, lord of the rings, exodia, games, neopets, orange county choppers, OCC, exodia, egyptian god cards, halo exclusive, booster packs, dragonball z, mcfarlane, pokemon, simpsons, zoids, action figures"><title>ToyWiz YuGiOh Cards, Yu Gi Oh Cards, Duel Masters, Beyblades, Lord of the Rings, Transformers, Dragonball Z, Pokemon, Neopets</title><head><TITLE>ToyWiz.com - Best Store for YuGiOh,Yu Gi Oh, YuGiOh cards, Yu-Gi-Oh cards, Duel Masters Beyblades Dragonball Z Transformers toys cards!</TITLE>
<meta name="description" content="Your source for yugioh, duelmasters, dragonball z, lord of the rings, transformers,neopets,tcg,cardgames">
<meta name="keywords" content="yugioh, yu-gi-oh cards, duelmaster cards, evo-crushinators, beyblade, games,transformers, lotr, lord of the rings, games, neopets, orange county choppers, OCC, egyptian god cards, halo exclusive, dragonball z, mcfarlane, pokemon, simpsons, zoids, action figures">
<META NAME="abstract" CONTENT="yugioh cards, yu-gi-oh trading cards, duel masters, beyblade, zoids, dragonball Z, neopets, pokemon, halo special action figures, wall papers">

You may very well have tripped the spam filter...... 8)
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Post June 23rd, 2004, 9:04 am

Thats because of the 2 separate areas Yahoo shopping carts (yahoo sites) have. Its been like that since like the beginning of time.
I'll narrow it down and keep it clean but it does meet standarts on meta tag generators (well atleast the ones I use)


But even when I type in TOYWIZ or "Toywiz.com" as a search my results are "only" people I affiliate with or niether.
is it possible that I have been blacklisted...and if so...after 5-6 years that the site has been on the engines why would I be BL'ed?
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Post June 23rd, 2004, 12:29 pm

Did you add a large amount of links recently?
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Post June 23rd, 2004, 1:12 pm

naaaa....I just submit and affiliate with the main index page I.E;toywiz.com/index.html.

I have been doing research on the issue this whole day and I've heard from others that have the same dilemma that google have changed their algerhythems(?sp) . If anyone has heard this kinda stuff please let me know. I depend on these search feeds even though I do have the adwords. Other search engines rely on googles feeds and my ranking (which was 5/100) yet alone sales has dropped do to this problem.

please if any of you see or even hear anything please let me know!
thanx alot guys ;)
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Post June 23rd, 2004, 6:02 pm

It almost looks like your PR was transferred to http://shop.store.yahoo.com/dragonballzcentral

Maybe ... toywiz.com was deemed a duplicate site and removed?

When I check backlinks it shows 0 for 'toywiz' and 213 for the 'store'.
Furthermore when I follow a backlink from the 'store' it is pointing to 'toywiz'.

You have been caught ... :shock:
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Post June 24th, 2004, 8:22 am

Rtchar might be correct. I have one client that has two domains...their choice. Anyway, there positioning bounces back and forth between the two domains monthly. I able to see this because I track both sites with DigitalPoint's tool. You may want to do this to see if this is happening to you.
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Post June 24th, 2004, 8:28 am

world4health wrote:
I think you should also simplify your META and TITLE 8)


Is there a general consensus on how many words you should use in your title, keywords and description?
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Post June 24th, 2004, 9:45 am

hey

are you guys talking abt
2 different domains Names with same contents?
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Post June 24th, 2004, 9:46 am

madmonk wrote:
hey

are you guys talking abt
2 different domains Names with same contents?


sorta
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Post June 24th, 2004, 9:54 am

Only your most important keywords should be in the title. I don't recall any limit to the title but you will only see about 65 of the title's characters in the google serps....yahoo is a bit more generous. The important thing to remember is that the more keywords you put in the title the less effective each one becomes....don't over do it.
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Post June 24th, 2004, 9:56 am

oic. heh heh.
gd luck man, heh heh

in relevance to this.

how abt ie. http://www.sitename.com/en
http://www.sitename.com/uk

is that better ? or having....

http://www.sitename.com and http://www.sitename.co.uk

this is hte part that is confusing me. i would go for country specific domain like .co.uk, .com.au
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Post June 24th, 2004, 12:39 pm

Complete article here: http://forums.seochat.com/t11609/s.html

Domain Name Issues
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.... I wanted confirmation of my own observations that unlike a couple of years ago, where the general consensus amongst SEOs was to have separate folders for different languages on the same site, that it was now better to have separate domains with the language/country specific top level domains for the different language content. My own site suffers currently from this as I have an /en/ directory which caters for my English pages. Good when I did it, bad now!

It doesn’t however stop at just changing the TLD (top level domain such as in my case .de) There are three other considerations which were pointed out Robin Hislop (Spannerworks) and Ren Warmuz (Trellian) who were the speakers. The language on the page is important. Defined not only by the Character set but the content itself. Other factors for determining regional relevance from the search engines are the IP address. That is of course the IP address of the website. This means you may need to find a webhost in the country you are targeting. Where the links are coming from also logically help to define region/language. So you need links from sites in the language you are targeting.

For my website which is a .de domain with an English language section in a /en/ directory I should theoretically be doing the following…

Find a web host in the US and/or UK to register my .co.uk / .com pages. Making sure there are no trademark violation issues first.

Move the english language content from my German tld /en/ directory to the uk/com domains. Change the .co.uk content to be more in line with the uk market (avoiding duplicate content and helping conversion by specific Geo targeting). If I have a .com then change the content to be more US focused.

Use 301 moved permanently in my .htaccess on the .de domain to make sure that there is search engine friendly redirection to the English language websites (.com or .co.uk) (Never use meta refresh or javascript redirection).

Pursuade all those linking to my old /en/ folder to switch to the new .co.uk domains / .com domains.

A lot of work really, but it would certainly help my rankings for the English language keywords I want to target. I do very well indeed for the German terms, it’s the English terms I’m not doing well on and the reasons why were confirmed in the first seminar I went to (not an English language tld, hosted on a german server, more german sites linking in than English language sites).

A good start and thanks to Robin and Ren for the confirmation. I have a lot of work to do!
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Post June 24th, 2004, 9:38 pm

i have read that before.

it is as good as google telling us that websites of different llanguages deserve to be traeted as different websites altogether?

afterall, their domain names are altogether different.
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