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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:26 pm

see i just noticed my google page rank was 4. is 4 good?
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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:26 pm

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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:35 pm

*smiles...

If it's on the first page results...I'd take it!

But much of that assumption is based on the keywords you used. Make sure you take into account the keywords that viewers may use. That would be the ultimate.

If all your keywords put you on the first page...you're awesome!
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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:39 pm

that reminds me ATNO/TW you are first for "ATNO" and 8th for "Designing your future" right up there with Gates :-P
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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:50 pm

*lol -- I know~! *smiles

Getting placed on "free" search engines isn't hard...it's just a matter of knowing what people are going to look for.

There are some generics like "Web Design", for example...that it's a toss of the dice...but control what you can control.
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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:53 pm

PageRank is important to Google, but its useless if you do not have much content on the site for Google to index. Thus if you have no content, you really will not have any keywords for Google. When you design a site it is probably a good idea to take into consideration the keywords you would think people would use to find your site, and somehow integrate those words into your content that you have.

Having a good PageRank will only give you a measure of importance for google, which could help you achieve better SERPs (Search Engine Ranking Positions) for keywords.
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Post August 29th, 2003, 12:56 pm

Well, that brings up a question. Which does Google et al prefer? Content or a keyword and/or description meta tag...? I try to do both when possible, but I was never clear on that.
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Post August 29th, 2003, 1:01 pm

how long does it take to move up more?
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Post August 29th, 2003, 1:16 pm

Maybe others can confirm this...but with Google (I think)...getting others to link to your site helps. (At least that's the premis I'm working on)
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Post August 29th, 2003, 1:31 pm

Google prefers content, however I would still use meta keywords and description tags too. I usually use them on all my sites because sometimes Google will take extracts from the meta tags, and it is still useful for some other search engines.

If I had to only pick one though, I would say go for the content. Meta tags are not as important. Content is King.

To get better PageRanks you need more people linking to you, and preferably people with high PR sites linking to you. That is why I strongly suggest you submit all your sites to the numerous directories out there, one of the best being http://www.dmoz.org/

I would definetely not stop at that directory though. I have listed Ozzu on numerous directories and sites and that is why I believe Ozzu has a PR of 7 now, which will give more credibiilty to the site for the content it has, which can ultimately bring in many more members to help each other out.

To increase your PR it will not happen overnight. You just have to keep working at it, and as Google finds the backlinks (sites linking to you), you will keep doing better as far as PR is concerned. You do not need to submit your site to Google. It is worthless. All you need is lots of sites linking to you and Google will know what to do. That is the whole basis for how Google works.
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Post August 29th, 2003, 7:18 pm

yeah, i will. i been working really hard
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Post September 10th, 2003, 4:38 pm

From my experience, Google can take a while before the PR will actually show in your Toolbar, but I'm also assuming you can speed the process the more links you have. Generally, though, you can expect to wait about 3 months given a number of decent links before that PR 0 turns into a PR >0 :D
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Post December 3rd, 2003, 3:37 am

IT only took about a week for my site to get around a 4 in ranking for google. But this is what I don't get.

Does google only process the main pages? Because whenever I search, the only pages the will show up on my website are the main pages, and not any sub sections, and that tickes me off because thats where all the content is xD
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Post December 3rd, 2003, 6:14 am

Minne wrote:
see i just noticed my google page rank was 4. is 4 good?


Well, yes a PR4 is good, but I think it's also slightly below average.
My homepage is also PR4 :(

I did extensive research on the top 100 sites under my keyphrase
and

1 was PR7
13 were PR6,
55 were PR5,
27 were PR4
2 were PR3
0 were PR2
0 were PR1
2 were PR0


I checked many other factors besides PR. I was trying to determine how my competition got to the top.

The results of my research are documented here:
http://webmaster-link-swap-tools.com/top100.html

But remember, that's my keyword phrase, whether things hold true
for others, I have no idea.

To increase one's PR, one definitely needs more links

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Post December 3rd, 2003, 6:19 am

Minne wrote:
see i just noticed my google page rank was 4. is 4 good?


smallsports.com is your site??

It looks like a PR5 to me, you must be doing something
right.

Need another link? I'll link with you :)
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Post December 3rd, 2003, 4:53 pm

Fifi wrote:
IT only took about a week for my site to get around a 4 in ranking for google. But this is what I don't get.

Does google only process the main pages? Because whenever I search, the only pages the will show up on my website are the main pages, and not any sub sections, and that tickes me off because thats where all the content is xD


Hey Fifi..

Nice site. Here's a few suggestions that may help get some of you other pages indexed:
1. Do you have a site map?
2. Use some alt tags on you photos. Put you keywords in them.
3. Trim your keyword list down to a smaller list. You're diluting the value of your text because the list is so long. Build you keyword list form your body text. This will assure relevancy.
4. Use different tags on different pages. IE....if a page is about Final Summit Version 4 then use that in you title. Use Final Summit Wallpaper in the title of your wallpaper page...and so on. This page will then rank for the specific term Final Summit Wallpaper. In essence you should be sure that your tags match you page content. This goes for titles, keywords, descriptions, alt and any other tags you use.
5. Include some links inline in your body text. Make sure they are descriptive. Do Not use Click Here as your link text....use click here for Final Summit Wallpaper and make Final Summit Wallpaper the link. Use this same stragety when you get links from other sites.


hope this helps :lol:
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