Has PR been devalued this time?

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Post June 24th, 2004, 3:08 pm

Wondering if anybody else noticed that there seems to be a lot more PR-5 sites this time around?

Maybe I am just hanging around a better class neighborhood but it feels like I am running into a lot more PR-5 sites than last month. :)

When I checked back on my link requests it seems that more than half have increased from PR-3 to PR-5 or better.

Anyone else seeing this?
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Post June 24th, 2004, 3:52 pm

Ive noticed the same thing. About 75% of my clients are a PR5. I am starting to hate 5.
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Post June 24th, 2004, 6:45 pm

Hmmmm ...

Does that mean there is a bug in the algorithm and we'll all fall back next month?

Or is this Google's way of getting more PR-4's because no one wants to link with low PR sites?

Did this only affect low PR sites? :twisted:
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Post June 24th, 2004, 10:09 pm

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Or is this Google's way of getting more PR-4's because no one wants to link with low PR sites?

Interesting thought....all the top site linking to each other and all the new sites left out in the cold....maybe we're responsible for the non-existant "sandbox effect" :lol:

PR in it's nature has a cascading or domino effect.

When you have
link1 > link2 > link3 > link4 > link5 > link6 > ...

and PR goes up somewhere it gets pass along the path.
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Post June 24th, 2004, 11:53 pm

I like to measure things and see how they change over time....

Looking at my link requests from March thru June (so all sites had link pages) It does look like it is harder to move PR the higher you go.

100 - PR-3 sites 73 higher, 22 same, 5 fell
100 - PR-4 sites 58 higher, 33 same, 7 fell
100 - PR-5 sites 29 higher, 64 same, 7 fell
18 - PR-6 sites 4 higher, 14 same, 0 fell

BTW ... depending on link quality these are average links required (small sampling):

PR-4 from 2 to 30+ links
PR-5 from 25 to 50+ links
:?: This gap appears very odd?
PR-6 from 150 to 350+ links

There are plenty of exceptions in *.gov and affiliate sites. :!:
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Post June 25th, 2004, 12:28 am

It could be the fact that once you get enough PR you start to concentrate on other aspects of ranking.
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Post June 25th, 2004, 7:46 am

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This gap appears very odd?
PR-6 from 150 to 350+ links


My site dropped from a PR6 to a PR5 during the update in april. At the same time the number of backlinks increased from around 30 to 55.

My site, when it was a PR 6, did not have anyway near the 150-350 backlinks.

It tells me that Google does boost new sites (my site was new at the moment). It also tells me that Google does re-evaluate new listings to a more decent PR over time.

During the latest update I reached 93 backlinks, but my site is still a PR 5. I have also come to hate the "5":-)
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Post June 25th, 2004, 9:12 am

Down with PR5 ! or is it up?
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Post June 25th, 2004, 1:50 pm

Little bit of an update ...

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PR-4 from 2 to 30+ links
PR-5 from 25 to 50+ links
PR-6 from 150 to 350+ links


These are not hard quotas ... even one good quality will raise your PR to dizzying heights. :shock: But I don't have access to *.gov, *.mil or major manufacturers. It's been said here before ... if you COULD get a link on Google's home page your site would rank PR-9! :lol:

A 'little guy' like me has to accumulate PR-4's and PR-5's and maybe in a good year I might get a PR-6 or two (I hope). I know ... I could BUY better links. :roll:

So how many PR-4s and PR-5s is it going to take?

I went back and did a little more research. Using PROG I found different PR values and clicked on [backlinks]. PROG is at http://www.webmasterbrain.com/prog/

PR-4 from 2 to 30+ links
PR-5 from 25 to <100 links
PR-6 from 100 to 350 links
PR-7 from 350 to 1000 links
PR-8 1000+ links

Again ---> there are exceptions depending on the QUALITY of links you can get.
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Post June 25th, 2004, 2:36 pm

Google caused Pagerank Mania!

http://www.webpronews.com/insiderreport ... Mania.html
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Post June 25th, 2004, 2:46 pm

I like the future PR tool. is it accurate??
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Post June 25th, 2004, 2:51 pm

It is just a prediction.
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Post June 25th, 2004, 3:09 pm

Some people are saying PR is almost worthless now.

I'm not certain.

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Post June 25th, 2004, 3:19 pm

I don't think that's true...it's one of the things that seperates google from other search engines...it's their niche....It may be in a state of devaluation now....but I would bet that they are working on making it better at figuering out what are natural links and which links are purchased or spammy...a couple of more graduations from Stanford and they will have the personel to do it. :)
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Post June 25th, 2004, 6:30 pm

I would never believe that. They need to improve it, but it is still a very useful tool in ranking sites.
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