How to Google Friendly Web Site Content ?

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Evereyone knows how the HomePage looks ugly when its filled with words.
But its needed for Google Ranking right? and sometimes its needed for helping visitors to find more information on the homepage before they left the site because of bored to search for their interest at the subpages...

Most of the Ecommerce pages have F.A.Qs and knowledgebases that share the big part of the whole site contents so i am thinking to add some ? symbol at where the crowded explaination needed under a title(feature) , pratically i want that when a user point the mouse on a ? symbol under a title - it will show the crowded explain on javastyled popup and this content have to be crawled by Google and tought its exisiting within the Page altough it is hiding on the first shot.

Anyone know how to do it?
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Google is getting pretty good at crawling scripts ... as long as the link address is clear and it returns HTML.

They don't seem to follow javascript pop-up windows ... probably just too many ads. :)

If the address is broken up or has to looked up in a table then they can't follow those links as yet.

I have a couple of perl script links on my site that return HTML pages and Google has no trouble crawling those pages.

Hope that helps ...
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I think i cant tell what i mean - i am not talking about java links or something that binds the popup pages to the homepages ...

Exactly: Think a HomePage that have less content with some titles and story headers and just near the titles + story headers there will be a "?" symbol and when a visitor point the mouse on this ? symbol it automatically popup(add extra border that have the content within the page) the full content of the title or story header and those contents will belong(in the html of) the homepage so Google will read all the Title/Story headers + their content as they are existing on the HomePage but at the first shot of the HomePage visitor wont see all the titles/story headers contents until they point their mouse to the ? symbol near them.

Why i need it : clean web page designs altough it has enormous contents .

I have a good idea but i dont how to do Google friendly ?
I really forgat all the Java codes since 2000 :) , at least anyone that understand my idea , could forward me somesites that have already done this?
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OK ... you are talking about mouseover effects. :)

The user does not have to click on anything ... just move the mouse over the "?" and the content is displayed.

Mostly I have used it for menu and graphics. I'll have to look around and see if it is search engine friendly.

I have seen this used but I don't have any SEO experience with mouseover and text. Would you be usig this with frames?
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just use divs that appear when you mouseover.
try dynamicdrive.com for some scripts.
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i reckon with mouseovers, your missing out on the chance to have normal links on your page.
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The question is ... do search engines index text in a javascript mouseover popup? How do you do this so it is search engine friendly?

I think madmonk is partly right ... you probably need to use <div statements to get the popup. But I think you might also need to use <noscript to ensure the search engines see the text.

Take a look at ...
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex5/popinfo3.htm
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rtchar wrote:
The question is ... do search engines index text in a javascript mouseover popup? How do you do this so it is search engine friendly?

I think madmonk is partly right ... you probably need to use <div statements to get the popup. But I think you might also need to use <noscript to ensure the search engines see the text.

Take a look at ...
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex5/popinfo3.htm

I have loaded sample page to the http://www.dolay.com
There is Story Header Link and qoute from the linked page , thats what we need to do exactly.
now will Google crawl the content of the Mouseover qoute(very similar to alttag) as its the content of the HomePage?
Also will this link have problem to crawled by Google as an Anchor text Link?

Thanks a lot.
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From what I can determine Google strips out mouseover javascript and does not index the text.

Look at the cached text of the page containing this script...

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:jdFvb5vuihsJ:www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex5/popinfo3.htm+site:www.dynamicdrive.com+popinfo3&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&strip=1

I would include a <noscript tag with the text inside.

There are several threads on how to use NOSCRIPT on this forum.
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great example on mouseovers js rtchar :-)

how about main navigation links?
ie. mouseover on navigational links to reveal more links of the site...

is it possible to strike a balance btween js and nav links.?
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rtchar wrote:
From what I can determine Google strips out mouseover javascript and does not index the text.

Look at the cached text of the page containing this script...

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:jdFvb5vuihsJ:www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex5/popinfo3.htm+site:www.dynamicdrive.com+popinfo3&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&strip=1

I would include a <noscript tag with the text inside.

There are several threads on how to use NOSCRIPT on this forum.

As it shown at the cahce, Google dont care what the mouseover effects have but maybe its because of the Js. couldnt work via cahced page, couldnt it? However can you forward me any forum that the discussion of this issue exactly? on OZZU - i cant find them :(
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You can check the W3C standard at http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/scripts.html



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The NOSCRIPT element allows authors to provide alternate content when a script is not executed.

In the following example, a user agent that executes the SCRIPT will include some dynamically created data in the document. If the user agent doesn't support scripts, the user may still retrieve the data through a link.

<SCRIPT type="text/tcl">
...some Tcl script to insert data...
</SCRIPT>
<NOSCRIPT>
<P>Access the <A href="http://someplace.com/data">data.</A>
</NOSCRIPT>

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