How many back links required for PR

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Post July 15th, 2004, 9:09 am

does this topic name bother anyone else? I'm really curious as to what exactly PR secretes? Sweat? Goo? Nuggets of wisdom? I'd feel much more comfortable if we were discussing PR Secrets.
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Post July 15th, 2004, 9:20 am

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Post July 15th, 2004, 10:42 am

beefcakejcc wrote:
does this topic name bother anyone else? I'm really curious as to what exactly PR secretes? Sweat? Goo? Nuggets of wisdom? I'd feel much more comfortable if we were discussing PR Secrets.


There are no secrets to getting high PR. Just lots of work.
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Post July 15th, 2004, 3:03 pm

i agree with Vetofunk. Lots of hard work and constant learning are the keys here. Keep reading and adjusting till you reach the top!!

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Post August 5th, 2004, 11:46 pm

Hi All,

I am back again, sorry for late reply, as I was out of station.

nuclei - I just checked http://www.webmasterbrain.com/prog , it's really helpful, because it shows you the PR of websites which are coming in search results. Thanks for info nuclei.

vetofunk & philgill - I understand that to get high PR, there is need of Lots of hard work and constant learning. But I saw some smart ways SEO's are doing and getting High PR within 2-3 months.

Please check http://www.click-cialis.com/index.html this website has PR 7 has only 10 Backward links, also there is no links from Yahoo! and Dmoz.org I am trying to understand how this website is able to get PR 7.... :?:

Can any one analyze this website and share there comments :?:
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Post August 6th, 2004, 12:36 am

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Please check http://www.click-cialis.com/index.html this website has PR 7 has only 10 Backward links, also there is no links from Yahoo! and Dmoz.org I am trying to understand how this website is able to get PR 7....


you prolly did a search on their backlinks in google (which shows 10).
Have a look at the site and you will find 6 pages of links. 6 Pages of links!
Some of the links are coming from strong sites too.

This site did lots of link exchanges and probably thats why the PR is high for the site.
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Post August 9th, 2004, 1:31 am

Hi madmonk,

Which 6 Pages you are talking about, can you explain more indetail...?
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Post August 9th, 2004, 9:34 am

One non recip link from a PR 8 site can get you PR7.
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Post August 9th, 2004, 11:22 am

Getting PageRank is not that hard. I have not (yet) done the math, but there is only a couple of things that count when talking PR.

Incomming links will raise your PR.

The higher the PR of the page that links to you the more PR you gain.

Every outgoing link on a page will lower PageRank on that page.

Also take into account that PR will be lowered even when you link to pages inside your own domain.

PageRank does only concern PAGES and not as widely said SITES.
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Post August 9th, 2004, 12:40 pm

jaydeep. the site you are talking about has 6 pages of links. links from exchanges.
meaning that the site did lots of exchanges
Please look in the site to see what I mean...

"Every outgoing link on a page will lower PageRank on that page. "
- I dont think this is true... it will not lower the PR of that page. correct me if i am wrong..
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Post August 9th, 2004, 5:51 pm

Same problem on me, i think it is nearly impossible for our site to exceed pr5 until next year and i know most of our competitor have been buying backlinks from high pr sites so i decide that it become a some rules now :
1- Achiving to the pr5 is easy : List on dmoz.org and maybe yahoo directory and wait 2 month later you will jump pr4 from 0 then made some trades with pr4-5 pages and yup you are on pr5 at the next update
2- But when you have a pr5 , any of the pr6+ sites wont trade links with you maybe pr6 would give but they provide it from a link farm page - usually not quality and i think that gaining pr6 is impossible at this situation because you have had made all the possible backlinks to achieve pr5 from pr0 and there is no possible gaining resources left to you... So you must obey the rules and hire some pr7+ backlinks from the related resources.
3- When you have gained pr6 by the 2.nd rule then you will gain some additional resources to trade links with pr6-7 sites .
4- same 3rd rule will be applied to the higher steps too.

I do not know it is the best strategy but according to me they become a rule.
I have hired 2*pr7 and 30*pr6 backlink from related 2 sites including their all subpages and it costed to me 300$/M only now i have sit on my back (could left worrying on this issue and turn on my regular service jobs) wait for the closed pr update of the google to take its benefits , also i notice that text link ad's is bringing me some visitors too :beerchug:
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Post August 9th, 2004, 7:48 pm

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Every outgoing link on a page will lower PageRank on that page.


This is absoluteky FALSE ...

1. Page rank is calculated from incoming links ... nothing ON the page affects PR of that page.

2. The page rank PASSED by a page is affected by the number of links on a page.

3. Links to external sites reduce the amount of PR passed to internal pages (rank leak).

4. No external links often means no incoming links to get PR in the first place. :)
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Post August 9th, 2004, 9:43 pm

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This is absoluteky FALSE ...

1. Page rank is calculated from incoming links ... nothing ON the page affects PR of that page.

2. The page rank PASSED by a page is affected by the number of links on a page.

3. Links to external sites reduce the amount of PR passed to internal pages (rank leak).


Well, I agree with the above statement and also think that was what i was trying to write in my poor English.

You gain absolutely nothing from onpage code or onpage content. But PR value passed to other pages will lower proportional to the number of outgoing links that a page has.

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4. No external links often means no incoming links to get PR in the first place.


That depends of the situation. I have no external links on my main keyword page :)
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Post August 9th, 2004, 10:14 pm

I sometimes forget the international audience enjoying ozzu, as much as I do. :)

You also have to remember ... there are new folks here reading your advice and trying to understand.

Now my mistake ... :arrow:
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4. No external links often means no incoming links to get PR in the first place.


Weak attempt to say that links to other sites are a necessary evil. If you do not link your site to others, they may not link to you.

So you usually have to provide some external links (rank leak) in order to get back links (PR).
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Post August 10th, 2004, 10:32 am

"If you do not link your site to others, they may not link to you. "

agreed. Just have to look out for dodgy sites.
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