How many back links required for PR

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serps vs pr ?
I agree with rtchar. hundreds/thousands of links cannot create suspicion. It will only mean that the site is massively marketing itself.
maybe a site like friendster will create more links than afew thousands in a day coz it is appearing in blogs all over...
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But a site like that would probably have more than 250 links to begin with...and they may not all pop up in one day or point to the opening page....it's really just a guess...but that fact remains when I added the links I got a big boost and one month later...goodbye :(

Lost all my money ($1000) and had to reinvent the wheel! I asked them to pull the links for a while and now the site I bought them from doesn't even return my emails... You know who you are ;) don't screw with me or you'll wind up like my landscaper...he will never do business on the web..see it here: http://www.mvcomputers.com/stuff/ Anyone who wants to link to this page I will give you a PR4 non-recip link back from one of my other sites that are Computer Services or Real Estate related.
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phaugh wrote:
"What do you think 3*pr7 + 300*pr6 would be able to jump pr5 site to the pr7 ?" I think it will depend on how many links are on the page. It could happen since PR is logarithmic and not linear...

I had a problem with links that I bought...got my site banned from google and yahoo in only one month. The sites I linked on were not related to my theme and I'm thinking that might have caused it....it also could have been that I tripled my link count in a day. It might have been the site selling them being identified as a link dealer...I don't buy them anymore...becareful :) My site has still not recovered...it's been 5 months. I got a new domain and have ranked high with that one using hard work.

Hey come on, whats the difference between the 3 sites that have 3*7pr and 300*pr6 that we have hired and THE YAHOO PAID DIRECTORY
Let me say ones price is 299$ other costs 450$/M :!:

If google think to bann some sites becouse of they are selling Backlinks they must first start to bann from YAHOO . ISNT IT ?
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I'm not knocking the guys who sell links ;) I realize that yahoo does it too...and there is no difference. I'm just warning you to what I experienced. I made no chages to a site that was #5 for 3 years....I wanted to be #1....I just bought some links then the site dissappeared from both google and yahoo indexes. I guessing that it had to do with related type sites. Mine was not like the theme of the site that my links were posted on. When I reseached it the other sites that bought links that were not computer related also got dropped from the index. The sites that dealt with seo and computer services were not affected....I'd buy them again but this time I would be more careful.

$450/month seems expensive...how many other outgoinging links are on the page? I paid $1000/year for 500+ links most were PR6. There were only 10 outgoing links on the pages....spread across 30+ sites.
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I do not think 3*pr7 and 300*pr6 backlink for 450$/M too much .
Becouse all of them is directly related with our site and 1 of them is our competitor service :oops:
I have analysed their links and their average outgoing links on the main page is about 20(and more 20 internal links) , i think this is normal for a pr7sites and the most important thing is that their outgoing links havent backlinks to them, they have all unparallel linkexchange and i notice that it is the major point of google rankng based on PR at those last updates.
But those sites are linking to the unrelated sites such as casino, health, travel... and i am not sure if it will harm us or not.
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It only souds expensive because I see links offered for $1 each per year...but it looks like you did your research and if it brings in $ then it's worth it :)
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phaugh wrote:
It only souds expensive because I see links offered for $1 each per year...but it looks like you did your research and if it brings in $ then it's worth it :)
SO WHY DO NOT YOU LET US KNOW ?
WHERE ARE THE RESOURCES THAT WE COULD REACH 1$/YR A PR7 LINK?
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Hi Guys,

Interesting post by DOLAY. anyway, i have a site of pr3. Everyone was saying that increasing to pr5 is easy, however, i beg to differ. I have been trying all sorts of method and really, believe me, i have contents, i have got inbound links within my own site by using anchor tag to link from one side to anther side, i have also did link exchange. But my rank still stuck in pr 3? why why? some of my Exchange link, are external link which i did not get reciprocal link from the exchanging parties--would that affect? can soomeone help me to achieve at least pr5. besides paying for pr, are there any other better ways, cos i think its not necessary to pay for pr5.

ps. please take a look at my site if you could spot the mistake of my site http://www.hst.com.sg

Thank you very much for reading!
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Hi,

I guess you should do a lot of link exchange. Get quality links.
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:roll: I am sure.. besides this, there are other problems u guys can think of? please help me.. =X
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you must link to sites with PR not less than 4. To find such sites, visit www.prsearch.net

Also write in forums, press releases if you have sth newsworthy, of course.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=online%2 ... t=640&sa=N

I did a foolish thing just now, i went to the google serach engine, clicked right from page 1 to page 65 and finally, i found my SITE!

Comparing my site wtih the others, i thought my site would be better rank a little better than page 65? Someone tell me what is wrong with my site that caused me to worth page 65?
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PR has not updated in months however it should not effect your ranking. At the end of the day you still lack inbound links as I can only see 2 and thats not very good if you want free rankings.

Consider a short cut and pay per clicks that I use on: https://adwords.google.com/select/
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i have already paid for "pay per click" service already from the adware google.

And what do you mean i only have 2 inbound links? how do you know?which are the 2 inbound links-- Is it the one found in my EXCHANGE link site??? the reciprocal linkS?? i thought i have more than that? :(
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query Google with link:www.yourdomain.com

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=link%3 ... main%2Ecom

some times it takes time to update. In the past it would only show back links less than PR4 but thats not the case for now.
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swee. try paying to get your site into business.com.
it may help a lot. on top of that, you have to wait for google to update your site and changes.

you did your link exchanges. so just WAit for now.

All of us are waiting for google update. so, hang on tight. Thats probably all you need to do for the time being.
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I thought the google is updating constantly? Wouldn't we be able to see the result immediately when the efforts are put in? In additions, i went to SEOCHAT.com to check the number of inbound and external links i have. To my astonishment, the result was 24 Inbound links and 0 external links?? how could there be just 24 inbound links when i hvae actually added quite a few numbers of Anchor tags linking within my own pages. Doesnt that count as inbound link? what i mean was ( page A of my own site link to page B of my site using Anchor tag). Anyone know what is considered as inbound link (not including reciprocal links)? :roll:
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I'm seeing 178 backlinks in google: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl ... hst.com.sg

All except for two come from your own site.

Yahoo is showing 40 but most of them come from about 5 sites.

Add your site to your profile...that will help a little but not much since your theme is different.

Check your links here: http://tools.marketleap.com/publinkpop/
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I wouldn't worry so much about links right now...you need to improve your titles, keywords and description tags.

The title reads home...your not selling home....work some of your keywords in to the title...not too many though....focus you keywords tag to target only a dozen or so...you have so many it will be hard for the se's to figure out what the site is about....spread some of the other out across the site.

The description is good but I would work some of those terms in to the other tags.

Also try to get some alt text in to the fabric samples that link to other pages....use the target page's title as you link text.
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Thanks Phaugh! i'm absorbing now but its really weird to see my page rank at page 65 with those non-relevant sites? you see. yeh, When view source, it was "home" that was my mistake and i'm going to correct it soon. I am currenly changing the filename of the url so that it contain keywords toO. Still, do yuo knwo how long it would tkae for google to update our rank?

Oh, try this with my website url and you will get different answer. =)
http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/site-link-analyzer
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My guess is with a proper title tag you will jump to #65 or better not page 65...good luck! Your site is very good content wise but just needs some tweaking...you'll get there :)
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Your search ranking can change daily but your backlinks and PR will only update every 4-6 weeks...although PR has been very slow to update recently....

Change your title asap and you'll see your site move up for the terms you put in the title....the more incoming links you have from high PR pages the more frequently google will visit you....I get a visit everyday or so and if I make changes to the home page and some internal pages I get a deep crawl about every two weeks....but that's just my site...some get more some get less....
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Hey Guys!! i have One very important queries!?

For a reciprocal link, if i dont link to them while they link to me..would i get my share of pg rank? anyone please??
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Swee wrote:
For a reciprocal link, if i dont link to them while they link to me..would i get my share of pg rank? anyone please??


Its simple... It will not make much deference to your PR if you link to them and it helps your reputation if you link to them and encourages them to link to you which will give you loads of PR.
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Hey! to update the page rank, are we waitng for the Spider or somebody else? i know this qns is stupid? but i thougth spider has been visiting us daily? is he responsible to update our page rank dialy? btw, what is EXTeRNAL links like? i have been using this [URL] http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/site-link-analyzer [URL] to check my LINKS and the result for EXTERNAL links is always 0 ZERO? why is it so?
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I am sure the real page rank is worked out all the time however what you see in the Google Tool bar is updated when ever the person at Google feels like it. No sites toolbar page rank has been updated in over 4 months now.

Same goes for back links showing in Link:

Same goes for AdSense statistics

Same goes for Adwords Reports

... just cos you cant see it does nos not mean it is happening.
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Johan007 wrote:
I am sure the real page rank is worked out all the time however what you see in the Google Tool bar is updated when ever the person at Google feels like it


I was thinking about this earlier, and I'm sure other people have come to the same conclusion as me. The general public do not need to know what the PR of a site is. The only reason for google publishing accurate PR stats, and full accurate link: results is for people to use that for SEO. Google doesn't actually want to help the SEOs really, so why should they update the PR for all to see? Their algo can work perfectly well without showing the rest of the world, and when it gives no benefit to them, why bother?
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rtm223 wrote:
Their algo can work perfectly well without showing the rest of the world, and when it gives no benefit to them, why bother?


Indeed that’s my thoughts too. Notice when I post SEO topics I choose not to include my footer link! :wink:
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Okie, Let alone the Page rank indicator. But, something must have gone wrong somewhere for my site to be ranked on the PAGE 65 with those non relevant sites. Something must have gone wrong but i really don't understnad what went wrong? i have done what everyone has said- add keywords/content/anchor tags/exchange links/..etc u name it.. but why am i sightless in Google search Engines? Somewhere must have went wrong. nbut what?
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You need to swap even more links. New sites like yours had been given a free boost by Google and if you dont have links to support it then you drop down.

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