Increasing Your Google's PageRank

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Post 3+ Months Ago

The best way to get your PR (PageRank) up on your site is to submit your site to numerous directories like

http://www.dmoz.org/
http://www.yahoo.com/
http://www.gimpsy.com/
http://www.zeal.com/
http://www.joeant.com/
http://www.goguides.org/

There are also numerous other directories that you can find out there besides these. Just submit, submit, submit and before you know it you will be getting a much higher PR due to the sites linking to you.
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I have read numerous times that submitting the site more than once a month to any given search engine is not necessarily a good thing. Any opinions? experiences?
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To google it does not matter how many times you submit your site. Google will not give your site any credibility unless it can find other sites linking to it, and thus google would have found your site anyway then. So as far as I am concerned submitting to google is useless.

As far as other search engines, I am not exactly sure if submitting too much could hurt you. I used to hear on Altavista if you submitted too often they would mark your site as a spammer and remove you from the index completely. That could just be a rumor though, not sure.

Now as far as submitting repeatedly to a directory, that could have negative effects as each submission is viewed by an editor. I am an editor at DMOZ and its very easy to find if your listing has been posted in other areas in the directory. Whenever I am about to add a new site, before I can add it, it will always let me know if its already been listed someplace else. That doesn't necessarily mean I couldn't add it though.
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Hmmm, an editor at DMOZ.
So your the one thats not listing my site.
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Bigwebmaster wrote:
Now as far as submitting repeatedly to a directory, that could have negative effects as each submission is viewed by an editor. I am an editor at DMOZ and its very easy to find if your listing has been posted in other areas in the directory. Whenever I am about to add a new site, before I can add it, it will always let me know if its already been listed someplace else. That doesn't necessarily mean I couldn't add it though.


Would one be penalized if you submit different pages in different parts of DMOZ?
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You should only submit different subpages within your site if it truly is unique to the rest of your site and there is loads of content. DMOZ will list subpages within the site only if its absolutely worthy content and extremely valuable to others. Before you submit you have to think to yourself, is my resource really valuable, unique, and could be useful to others? If the answer is yes you will probably be listed. If the answer is no, I wouldn't submit until you think the answer is yes, as you would be wasting your time and probably only making it harder to get listed in the future, as your site is being tagged with rejection logs saying how it wasn't a good resource (even though it may eventually be).
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Bigwebmaster wrote:
You should only submit different subpages within your site if it truly is unique to the rest of your site and there is loads of content. DMOZ will list subpages within the site only if its absolutely worthy content and extremely valuable to others. Before you submit you have to think to yourself, is my resource really valuable, unique, and could be useful to others? If the answer is yes you will probably be listed. If the answer is no, I wouldn't submit until you think the answer is yes, as you would be wasting your time and probably only making it harder to get listed in the future, as your site is being tagged with rejection logs saying how it wasn't a good resource (even though it may eventually be).


How many pages/subpages would you recommend submitting to DMOZ, whether it be different or same category?
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I recommend just submitting the main site. You would have to have a really uber site for them to start accepting subpages.
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Bigwebmaster wrote:
I recommend just submitting the main site. You would have to have a really uber site for them to start accepting subpages.


Gotcha!!
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What about the following case for submitting to dmoz:

1) You have 4 companies each with their seperate website (e.g., company1.com, company2.com...)
2) Following a merger, you now want to represent these 4 companies under the same name (e.g., 4companiesgroup.com)

Can you then submit each of the 4 companies (they would essentially belong under the same category), and then in addition the one 'merger' company with the group brand name?

Or is it better to submit each 4 companies seperately and forget the merger site (this would help PR)...or just the 1 merger site?

Thanks for any suggestions
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Well what editors are "supposed" to do is list site that provide useful, unique content that other sites in the category are not listing. So if those 4 sites provide either extremely useful content or something very unique that no other site in the category has, they will likely be listed.

If the 4 sites are extremely similiar, and really do not provide anything unique from each other, the DMOZ editor should probably list the best of the 4 sites. Now in most cases DMOZ editors will probably list all sites as long as they each provide lots of useful content and do not look the same in design.

Here is exactly what DMOZ says on this issue:

Sites to Include

The ODP's goal is two-fold: to create the most comprehensive and definitive directory of the Web, and to create a high quality, content rich resource that the general public considers useful and indispensable. In short, editors should select quality sites and lots of them.

Consider the relative value of a resource in comparison to others information resources available on your particular topic. Relative value refers not only to the quality of the site, but also to its ability to contribute important, unique information on a topic.

In general, ODP editors should enter sites that represent the following:
  • Original, unique and valuable informational content that contributes something unique to the category's subject.
  • Contrasting points of view on major issues. The ODP attempts to cover the full breadth and depth of human knowledge, representing all topics and points of view on those topics.

Editors should consider the following for each site:
  • Is the site's content/information identical to other sites? - A site should not mirror content available on other sites.
  • Does the ODP include the type of site you want to add? - The site should not be on the list of sites the ODP does not generally include.
  • Is the site complete? - The site should have working links and content rich subpages. Links should not bring up 404 pages or subpages with no content. If a web site is still under construction it is not a good candidate for the Open Directory. Sometimes sites may have broken links, poor design, or other "quality" issues, yet present information that is difficult or impossible to find on the Web. Consider adding these sites to the ODP. Even with some flaws, if the content is rare and unique, the site may be considered very useful.
  • Is the site current? - A site that claims to provide time-sensitive information should be current. If it is not current, determine the site's archival or research value. In rare instances, a site that used to be current may still contain valuable articles, links and other resources. For example, an antiques newsletter that hasn't been updated in 2 years may still contain valuable articles and information on antique buying and appraisal. However, a site that claims to provide daily current events news that hasn't been updated in several months or even years, may no longer have any significant value.
  • Is the site available and does it load completely? - The site should load in a reasonable time and be consistently available. Design alone is rarely a valid reason to deny a listing for an otherwise content rich site. The only time design may be a factor if it renders the site unreadable.


You can see the details here: http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html

It also talks about what kind of sites editors should not include in the directory.
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Hmm...looks like I've got a lot of thinking to do.


Many thanks for the info!
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Zeal will not do anything for your pagerank, Google won't follow the link they use to track site usage.

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Post 3+ Months Ago

hi,

Why is it so hard to become a DMOZ editor?

I have followed every rule and yet can't seem to meet their requirements.

Any advice would be great.

Regards,
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Bigwebmaster wrote:
To google it does not matter how many times you submit your site. Google will not give your site any credibility unless it can find other sites linking to it, and thus google would have found your site anyway then. So as far as I am concerned submitting to google is useless.

As far as other search engines, I am not exactly sure if submitting too much could hurt you. I used to hear on Altavista if you submitted too often they would mark your site as a spammer and remove you from the index completely. That could just be a rumor though, not sure.

Now as far as submitting repeatedly to a directory, that could have negative effects as each submission is viewed by an editor. I am an editor at DMOZ and its very easy to find if your listing has been posted in other areas in the directory. Whenever I am about to add a new site, before I can add it, it will always let me know if its already been listed someplace else. That doesn't necessarily mean I couldn't add it though.


perhaps you can help me figure out why dmoz wont list my site? http://ly2.com
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actually I didnt even summited mine and I have a 4/10 witch I think is good for me not summiti
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Bigwebmaster wrote:
I am an editor at DMOZ and its very easy to find if your listing has been posted in other areas in the directory.


Can you help me add my link to DMOZ then? I already submitted my site which is indicated to my sig 2 to 3 months ago, unfortunately they haven't added my link to DMOZ yet.

I can remember also the exact location if it I submitted it to
Business: Marketing and Advertising: Internet Marketing
Or
Top: Computers: Internet: Web Design and Development: Promotion: Search Engine Optimization Firms
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Bigwebmaster!!

you shouldn't have said that you were a DMOZ editor...you are going to be receiving requests upon request now...

You should probably lock this thread
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mabdr2 wrote:
Bigwebmaster!!

you shouldn't have said that you were a DMOZ editor...you are going to be receiving requests upon request now...

You should probably lock this thread


Ummm. Did you read the originating date on this thread guys? This was posted almost two years ago. My best recollection is that Bigweb gave up being a DMOZ editor some time ago.
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where are vetofunk, rtchar, and that seo goddess?
Lol.

also, It will be good to have ozzu forum links count as backlinks too..
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Still lurking once in a while ...

Sorry but I find the use of the rel="nofollow" tag on the user profile home page objectionable. Now I can understand putting it on unvetted content and sigs ... but a registered users home page too?

The intent of this tag was to prevent comment spam by denying PageRank on user-submitted link content.

My home page is NOT comment spam, you have the option of removing or restricting sites that can be included here.

So those are my opinions ... and I chose to take them elsewhere.
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Hello Brother,
My website http://www.jnbsilver.com is not listed yet. I submited couple of months back. Can you please let me know, it says minimum 2 weeks to reflect. Can you let me know if i had made any mistakes in that.
If i had made some mistakes and bcos of that it has not been listed is there any way out to redo it again.
I am so worried please help me brother.

thank you
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You can do this here http://google-pagerank.atakmim.com/
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nickybangkok wrote:
Hello Brother....


nickybangkok as an Dmoz editor myself I have answered your question in another thread.

rtchar wrote:
Sorry but I find the use of the rel="nofollow" tag on the user profile home page objectionable. Now I can understand putting it on unvetted content and sigs ... but a registered users home page too?


I agree with rtchar too! Though I will stay.
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