My site went down from first page of Google to 6th page?

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Post December 1st, 2007, 5:11 pm

Till today morning my site was showing up on the first page of Google for a specific keyword.....but when I checked it after 8 hours it went down to 6th page.....why this could have happened....can somebody please help me in understanding this.....because this has a definite impact on the traffic of my site.
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Post December 1st, 2007, 5:11 pm

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Post December 1st, 2007, 8:49 pm

You are not the only one. Many have similar experience. Worst still, Google will not tell you why you are downgraded.
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Post December 2nd, 2007, 1:07 am

I've noticed that too, but only after I have submitted crazy articles to improve my backlinks for targeted keywords. Google usually considers this spam and drops my rankings from 2 or 3 to about 7 or 8 (gain roughly 20-30 inboud links per article submission btw specific sites). After 20 or so days of non activity with inbound links, my rankings will improve or stay the same.
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Post December 2nd, 2007, 6:50 am

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I've noticed that too, but only after I have submitted crazy articles to improve my backlinks for targeted keywords. Google usually considers this spam and drops my rankings from 2 or 3 to about 7 or 8 (gain roughly 20-30 inboud links per article submission btw specific sites). After 20 or so days of non activity with inbound links, my rankings will improve or stay the same.


This is quite strange....I dont understand why google does this. Even I submitted 3 articles in last 1 week to more than 50 article sites.....so thats like 150 inbound links.So is that the reason my site is penalized?
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Post December 2nd, 2007, 12:27 pm

rinkscharm wrote:
Cerebro wrote:
I've noticed that too, but only after I have submitted crazy articles to improve my backlinks for targeted keywords. Google usually considers this spam and drops my rankings from 2 or 3 to about 7 or 8 (gain roughly 20-30 inboud links per article submission btw specific sites). After 20 or so days of non activity with inbound links, my rankings will improve or stay the same.


This is quite strange....I dont understand why google does this. Even I submitted 3 articles in last 1 week to more than 50 article sites.....so thats like 150 inbound links.So is that the reason my site is penalized?


What was the need to submit to lots of article sites in the first place? Unless it improves traffic a lot, it may be a waste of time.

Natural one way links are almost always the best - Google's guidelines have now changed regarding text link advertising and suggest all webmasters nofollow links that they are advertising - otherwise, they tend to lose some of their own ranking.

If you look at it from Google's perspective, links are a major way of showing who is reliable online and who isn't. If people go round getting links from random places to falsify reputability, then they have a right to go round clearing their index up.

Google's loyalty is to it's own users, not to webmasters.
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Post December 2nd, 2007, 4:53 pm

whym wrote:
rinkscharm wrote:
Cerebro wrote:
I've noticed that too, but only after I have submitted crazy articles to improve my backlinks for targeted keywords. Google usually considers this spam and drops my rankings from 2 or 3 to about 7 or 8 (gain roughly 20-30 inboud links per article submission btw specific sites). After 20 or so days of non activity with inbound links, my rankings will improve or stay the same.


This is quite strange....I dont understand why google does this. Even I submitted 3 articles in last 1 week to more than 50 article sites.....so thats like 150 inbound links.So is that the reason my site is penalized?


What was the need to submit to lots of article sites in the first place? Unless it improves traffic a lot, it may be a waste of time.

Natural one way links are almost always the best - Google's guidelines have now changed regarding text link advertising and suggest all webmasters nofollow links that they are advertising - otherwise, they tend to lose some of their own ranking.

If you look at it from Google's perspective, links are a major way of showing who is reliable online and who isn't. If people go round getting links from random places to falsify reputability, then they have a right to go round clearing their index up.

Google's loyalty is to it's own users, not to webmasters.


Because I read somewhere that this increases your pagerank and SERP....but I guess it has done opposote.........so can u suggest me how many artilces we should submit in a month so that I dont have to face this problem again.
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Post December 3rd, 2007, 11:11 am

This is going to happne from time to time. I track dozens of sites with hundreds of keywords. I always see at least 5-10% of my keywords take huge shifts from time to time. They always bounce back. I would be patient and wait it out for a few days to a couple weeks...and don't make any changes until then.
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Post December 5th, 2007, 4:33 am

Well......it happens time to time but sometimes it is just a fluctuation for short term and after few time everything becomes fine as earlier.

But in some cases like when you post a new article on your site or blog and submitted it on other article submission sites too then generally it appears among top sites with your keywords on google after indexing and you will also find your article posted on other article site among the top rank. but it is just for short span may be because of enough traffic at that time but after few days its ranking drops a lot.
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Post December 7th, 2007, 8:49 am

When doing the whole article marketing thing, Google will only penalise you if it deems the links from those articles to be of low relevance to your website content, so if you're gonna send out a plethora of articles into cyberspace stuffed with backlinks, better make sure they're extremely to the point.

On the other hand, article marketing is great because it reaches a targeted audience, so even if your google PR suffers, your site traffic could still increase.

I guess it all depends what you're after. Personally, I'd go with the traffic any day and screw Google, lol.....
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Post December 8th, 2007, 10:58 am

Very well said.....
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Post December 9th, 2007, 2:21 am

rinkscharm wrote:
Because I read somewhere that this increases your pagerank and SERP....but I guess it has done opposote.........so can u suggest me how many artilces we should submit in a month so that I dont have to face this problem again.


Hmmm, I guess that would be the million dollar question! Since I have noticed how article submissions can alter positioning on the serps, I have not submitted any articles since September. It's too risky with January being a big month for us. We are a service based business so we are dependent on people finding us as the #1 result for major keywords (less activity for niche market keywords, but higher qualified leads).

I manually submitted roughly 12 quality artcles over a 2 month period to about 40 sites. Our traffic increased from 600 hits a month to 2400 (not bad for a non-internet service based business). I noticed backlinks from the past google update included blogs that picked up our articles (natural linking). This gave us backlinks to help boost our rankings and I can only imagine that this will play a huge role in the next google update (which is why others say keep improving your content and site exposure). If I were to submitt another article right now, my site would hurt for the next month and that is crucial with January right around the corner. I will wait until March perhaps before I disrupt the serps again.

Just like the others have said wait it out a few days. If I am not submitting articles, and our rankings drop, that is an indication to me that my competitors are undergoing some articificial linking to counteract us taking over their spot for keywords. Am I worried... no, we are on track for next year with bookings. And we try to stay 2 steps above the rest.
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Post December 9th, 2007, 12:32 pm

Cerebro wrote:
rinkscharm wrote:
Because I read somewhere that this increases your pagerank and SERP....but I guess it has done opposote.........so can u suggest me how many artilces we should submit in a month so that I dont have to face this problem again.


Hmmm, I guess that would be the million dollar question! Since I have noticed how article submissions can alter positioning on the serps, I have not submitted any articles since September. It's too risky with January being a big month for us. We are a service based business so we are dependent on people finding us as the #1 result for major keywords (less activity for niche market keywords, but higher qualified leads).

I manually submitted roughly 12 quality artcles over a 2 month period to about 40 sites. Our traffic increased from 600 hits a month to 2400 (not bad for a non-internet service based business). I noticed backlinks from the past google update included blogs that picked up our articles (natural linking). This gave us backlinks to help boost our rankings and I can only imagine that this will play a huge role in the next google update (which is why others say keep improving your content and site exposure). If I were to submitt another article right now, my site would hurt for the next month and that is crucial with January right around the corner. I will wait until March perhaps before I disrupt the serps again.

Just like the others have said wait it out a few days. If I am not submitting articles, and our rankings drop, that is an indication to me that my competitors are undergoing some articificial linking to counteract us taking over their spot for keywords. Am I worried... no, we are on track for next year with bookings. And we try to stay 2 steps above the rest.


Wow thats a real good jump in the traffic.....so as per your reply shall I stop submiting articles and probably focus more on updating my site?

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