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Do you think this concept will attract tonnes of customers ?

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    Rubbish idea
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    bad idea
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    not too good idea
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    ok idea
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    fairly good idea
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    good idea
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    great idea
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    the one and only great idea !

CHECK THIS NEW SEARCHENGINE CONCEPT OUT !

  • onauc
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Post 3+ Months Ago

Hello Folks !

I need your opinions on a concept.
Please do not fool around but honestly give your opinions because if your opinions seem all positive then I am thinking of running such a venture mentioned below.
Also, please forward everyone you know (on the internet) to this post so I can also gather their opinions.

My Idea :
When other searchengines send you visitors there is no guarantee that every visitor they send you will buy something from you. If they leave your website without buying anything from you or leaving their email-address to you then you never get the chance to contact them and ask how you can help them to make them buy from you and not from your competitions.
I am thinking of running a searchengine where if you list your link on it then my searchengine will track who we are sending to your website and then give you the chance to contact the visitor.
This is good for you because if that visitor left your website without buying anything from you then now you get a chance to turn this round.
My 1st question : Is this a good idea ?

Likewise, my searchengine will track who we are sending to your competitions' websites and then give you the chance to contact their visitors.
This is good for you because if that visitor left your competition's website without buying anything from them then now you get a chance to turn this visitor into your own customer.
My 2nd question : Is this a good idea ?

I know that, you have a question how the tracking will be done to trace and contact your own website visitors and those of your competitions.
Well, I am not going to reveal all my trade secrets here because I don't want other searchengines competing with me.
All I can say is that, my searchengine won't be installing any spywares on my searchengine users PCs nor cookies to track and trace them. My users can have all the spyware detectors they like but not a single one of them will ever alert them that my searchengine is installing spywares on their PCs.
Also, I believe, you have another question, why would any of my users allow my searchengine to keep records of what websites they surf and why would they give my searchengine the permission for it to forward commercial company's ads to them ?
Well, again I am not going to reveal all my trade secrets here because I don't want other searchengines competing with me.

All I want from you is to forget seeing things from my searchengine user's point of view but see things from your point of view as some-one who lists his website on my searchengine. Let me worry about how to attract such users.

Now, my 3rd question is : would my searchengine service be valuable to commercial websites like your's ?
I mean, how much would you charge (if you was in my position running my searchengine) to give a website the tools to contact their own and competitions' websites' visitors ?


SCENARIO
Let's assume that your website is listed on my searchengine. I would provide you the following services. Let me know, if they would ve valuable to websites like you or not.

FIRST SERVICE :
I would show you stats :
a). who visited your website and
b). when and
c). what webpages he/she visited (so you can learn their tastes and find-out which webpage made them leave).

And for this record, I would charge you 5 cents per visitor.
So, if I show you record of 2 visitors, my charges would be 10 cents.
Now, if you contact one of these visitors (for feed-back, offers, etc.), I would charge you $1 to forward your 5-line ad to the visitor.
Do you reckon my price is too cheap ?
My 4th question is : What's the maximum do you think I can stretch to but still have people like you paying to use this particular service by the tonnes ?

SECOND SERVICE :
I would show you stats :
a). who visited their website and
b). when and
c). what webpages he/she visited (so you can learn their tastes and find-out which webpage made them leave).

And for this, I would charge you 10 cents per visitor.
So, if I show you record of 2 visitors, my charges would be 20 cents (double to what I would charge you if you was contacting your own visitor).
Now, if you contact one of these visitors, I would charge you $2 (double to what I would charge you if you was contacting your own visitor) to forward your 5-line ad to the visitor.
Do you reckon my price is too cheap ?
My 5th question is : what's the maximum do you think I can stretch to but still have people like you paying to use this particular service by the tonnes ?


YOUR CONCLUSION :
Would you list your website on my searchengine knowing that I would allow your competitions to contact your website visitors (those whom my searchengine sends to your website) ?
If you don't, then you too won't be in a position to do the same to your competitions who will be listed on my searchengine.
It's upto you now.
Frankly, if I was you, I wouldn't mind if my competitions lure my visitors to their order forms because these visitors already left my website without making any purchases anyway. So, what have I really got to lose ?
Frankly, I'd have something to gain because now I'd be in a position to do the same to my competitions.


YOUR DEAD CONCLUSION :
Now, imagine that, a visitor is browsing your competition's website and at that time my searchengine gives you the chance LIVE to see what webpages the visitor is browsing at the moment (so you can learn his/her taste) on your competition's website and then when the visitor is about to click to your competition's order form, my searchengine gives you the chance to buzz them to distract them from making the order and also gives you the chance to make an offer (so you can make an offer with a better bargain than your competition), then would you use this service knowing that your competitions would be in the same position to do the same to your own website visitors ?
It's upto you now.
Would you really list your website on my searchengine and have the risk of having your competitions snatching your "likely-hood customers" like this from your order form just so that you too can have the same advantage over your competitions in a similar manner ?
If you would, then upto how much are you willing to pay my searchengine to give you the advantage to buzz your competition's visitors from their order forms like this to your own LIVE offers ?
I mean, what's the maximum do you think I can stretch to but still have people like you using this particular service by the tonnes ?
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  • UPSGuy
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Post 3+ Months Ago

The one thing I don't need is spyware turning me over to someone else to contact me when I obviously left their site for a good reason in the first place! I shouldn't have to beat off people with a stick because I didn't buy anything. Ever gotten hit up by that one really ugly stripper at the club who just won't leave you alone until you give up some sort of tip? Exactly.
  • lucassix
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Post 3+ Months Ago

SPAM and more SPAM
  • DodgeCroft
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Post 3+ Months Ago

My 2 cents worth. I run some campaigns on PPC and your system Maybe attractive because I know my product well and my prices are very competitive. But in saying this you're going to give my opposition the same tools you're offering me. So a visitor to my site may not buy anything and it would cost me 10c and I do a follow up email or something but then My opp do the same thing. What If I have 20 or 100 competitors? The visitor would kak in their pants when they check their email, and end up not buying from any of these suppliers. If I send a follow up email and they consider this spam, the chances of me being reported as a spammer are worrying. If you provide that service to me to avoid that happening good on you but then you become a spammer and no one will want to continue working with you.

Perhaps alter your plan slightly and build a network where you can offer me banner space on my competitors sites that isn't google and better than the rest of the networks.
  • Truce
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Post 3+ Months Ago

Sorry for any racial bias here, but please, learn English or give up on running an online website.

BTW, the site would get shut down in a jiffy due to customer privacy laws even if it was possible to develop....which it isn't.

Quit day dreaming and get back to your data entry before I tell your boss Kahmal on you.
  • reaper
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Post 3+ Months Ago

What is wrong with his english? i know i make my occasional grammar mistakes but we can all understand each other, i didn't have a hard time reading his english nor understanding it.

And i am from The Netherlands so if i make the occasional spelling or grammar mistakes don't hold it against me :P
Making minor grammar or spelling mistakes should not restrain someone to begin an online business, making a post on a forum can not be compared with taking efforts to make your site look good.
All kinds of support is available to make it look good and to look professional.

I agree his concept smells like some sort of spyware or modified trojan/worm so i don't think this is ever going to work.
And like said before the visitor/customer will at some point be spammed to death.

Also onauc your second service wouldn't work because it would mean to much possible money going to waste just to see the stats.
This should be free!
But in my oppinion your concept can not work unless you are using some sort of spyware in the form of a trojan or worm/keylogger, etc.
  • Christian_SEO
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Post 3+ Months Ago

I didn't see any problem with the use of English in any of the posts, and since when is dreaming something to be criticized...?

I really appreciate that onauc has asked for feedback and not just gone a built something that turns out to be a spyware-infested search engine. Man, we have enough of that going on already!

Actually, what he proposes has many good points, and a number of bad ones. And it already exists in some forms. Some sites, and I know a big one that starts with "A" already have the ability to track what the user does, not only on their site, BUT ALL OTHERS, by virtue of their toolbar that uses have installed. I got this from talking to a rep about a year ago. They had no plans to do anything with the information, partly because the did not see the potential, but also because it's not part of their main business.

Anyone that does marketing should recognize that seeing information about things like what is the most popular pages on another site and help you with things like optimization, copywriting, and design. It can be a useful research tool. My main interest was to tap into search query data that is not tainted by ranking and positioning searches, or click fraud that I feel is a factor in the current source of search query data.

Onauc, you should contact those of us that like your ideas (at least some of them) or those that offer useful criticism and we can help you figure out what the best way might be to develop you ideas. I can see a few ways to make money with some of the ideas you have, and still avoid the minefield of privacy violations and spam.
  • Skal Tura
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Post 3+ Months Ago

Your prices seems sky high.

Secondly, only 5 liner?
Thirdly, e-mail? I see problems ahead, getting blacklisted! Insite Inbox rather, and like "force show", something like that.

Your search engine results needs to be hella good also.

$1 for the e-mail ehrm, i know they are searching for the samething, but i see that the only one profitting on thoes prices would be you.

50:1 conversion rate (from visitors to sale) is already damn good, now that would be 50$ on your services. It would take me on the cheapest plan 2 years to get on profit on that client. Doesn't sound very wise to me.

Oh yeah, and on my market (web hosting) i see constantly as poor conversion rates as 10k to 1 etc. those are poor websites, my website is converting for quality traffic on the following chart:

Target 1: ~70:1 (from a directory, only thing is: only 30-60 visitors per month...)
Target 2: ~200:1 (search engine)
Target 3: ~8000:1 (paid redirected domains traffic)
Target 4: ~450:1 (my other websites sending traffic)
etc etc etc.


For those prices, the information must be absolutely golden, how can you promise an 20-25:1 conversion rate?
  • southerngurl
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Post 3+ Months Ago

If I were a customer and recieved an email from a website I only visited, I would be an unhappy camper, and it would totally turn me off to that website.

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