Dmoz editor abuse?

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I've now been waiting 14 months for a dmoz listing. The category doesn't have an editor (I applied and was rejected). The editor of the category above seems to do very little. This editor edits a few categories. I notice that one website has a total of 4 lstings on the dmoz, this editor has direct control over three of those listings.

Four listings from the dmoz - one to the index, three to subpages (mainly rubbish "travelogues"). Surely this is a case of editor abuse? Or is it not unheard of?

Any advice welcome.
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I am sure that there is abuse in DMOZ...but there are great editors as well...and you have to remember...editors are only volunteers. Becoming an editor just so you can add your site is one of the biggest problem in DMOZ...people become editors, add their site, and vanish.

If it has been 14 months...have you checked the last time the category was updated?...if it has been a year or so, you may want to find another category to submit your site to.
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i agreed, some editor abused the DMOZ, i apply for a very small category and had been rejected for 3 times. Don't know the moderator of the DMOZ aware it or not, this kind of action really discourage people to join in. :cry:
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I am an editor and I am still waiting 4 years for my portfolio listiing (maybe its just not good enough?).
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Interesting post, however this paradigm is aparent in everything.
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Is it worth emailing editors if your URL is not added? If there is no editor...should I email the editor of the parent group?
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corduroy090 wrote:
Is it worth emailing editors if your URL is not added? If there is no editor...should I email the editor of the parent group?


I think that's the rule, isn't it?
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I have checked various sites in the category I am looking to get listed in... and my site vastly outweighs the majority of the sites listed.

I had submitted my site recently so am not expecting a quick listing, just the fact that I have seen so many other sites offering much lower quality content and many not even active nowadays.

I would suspect that Dmoz editor abuse is not to be unexpected... there are 72k+ editors for just under 5.4mil sites - I think it was 75 sites per editor or something would have been the ratio if it was evenly divided among all editors.... (checked and there are 590,000 categories with a total of 72,384 editors and 5,311,179 sites listed)

The problem is that some people just became editors to get their own sites listing and prevent other threats coming in with better quality or more targeted content.

From the 70k+ editors most likely 60% or so are inactive while the rest are overworked and overstretched for a volunteer position. The inactive editors is purely a guess but after evaluating quite a few categories there are an extremely high volume of redundant sites for many specialist categories.

14 months without being listed is harsh - after 2 months of hearing nothing I would have moved up a step in the hierarchy and submitted again (got in contact with the editor of the category one step higher in the hierarchy), then a further 2 months or more moved up another step .... this would hopefully have then got to someone who was active and able to review the site for listing.
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I would suspect that Dmoz editor abuse is not to be unexpected... there are 72k+ editors for just under 5.4mil sites - I think it was 75 sites per editor or something would have been the ratio if it was evenly divided among all editors.... (checked and there are 590,000 categories with a total of 72,384 editors and 5,311,179 sites listed)


That's always a point of confusion with some people. The numbers at the bottom of the page aren't current editors. There are approximately 8,000 active editors. The 70,000+ number you see at the bottom of the page is the total number of editors who have ever contributed to the project since it's inception in 1999. As you can imagine, most are no longer editors. See the links at the bottom of this post for the most current numbers.

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The problem is that some people just became editors to get their own sites listing and prevent other threats coming in with better quality or more targeted content.


There is a way to handle suspicions of editor abuse. http://report-abuse.dmoz.org/ Keep in mind that most suspicions of abuse are unfounded. Keep the key they give you when you file a complaint because you can use it to follow-up on your claim, but you will not be privy to the outcome of it.

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The inactive editors is purely a guess but after evaluating quite a few categories there are an extremely high volume of redundant sites for many specialist categories.

If you find a site doesn't meet Dmoz listing guidelines (sites do change over time) then you can go to Resource-Zone and report it in the quality control thread or use the update URL link at the top of the page where the site is listed to report it. That goes for dead links, hijacked pages, mirrors, affiliates, redirects, and everything else that no longer meet Dmoz listing guidelines. If you post at R-Z then it's handled immediately, and update requests are handled on a priority bases, too.

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14 months without being listed is harsh - after 2 months of hearing nothing I would have moved up a step in the hierarchy and submitted again (got in contact with the editor of the category one step higher in the hierarchy), then a further 2 months or more moved up another step .... this would hopefully have then got to someone who was active and able to review the site for listing.


Do you know what I would do if you did what you are proposing? I'd just forward it to the right category - below me. I know some people do that to get a quick listing, and I don't fall for it. Sorry, but you'll have to wait your turn unless your site is really exception that I feel I have to list it right away. Also, keep in mind that submitting the same site to many categories can also get you labeled a spammer.

Below are the links to the ODP monthly reports where you'll be able to see the total number of editors (new and re-instated), number of sites listed in the directory, total number of categories, and so on.

The report for the month of June 2006 (and previous months) will be posted in the upcoming days in this thread http://resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42201

The report for May 2006 (most recent one available) is available here http://research.dmoz.org/publish/chris2 ... 200605.htm

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