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Post March 20th, 2004, 3:43 pm

whick category would you submit my site to?
http://www.floridafishandhunt.com
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http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Outdoors/Fis ... nd_Forums/

or

http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Outdoors/Fishing/Saltwater/

Saltwater has alot more sites.
targets more people ?
what would you do?
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Post March 20th, 2004, 6:50 pm

I would say first of all that the amount of sites listed in a particular category should not really make any difference when choosing a category within DMOZ. At the end of the day the topic/nature/content is the same and it will have its rightful place.

I am not a 'fishing' fanatic (although I do dabble!) so not my specialist field however the main key is to find the 'SINGLE' most appropriate category that covers your sites content. What an editor will look at is the 'main' focus of the site as opposed to the fact it 'happens' to have a forum. Thus I would suggest not submitting it to the forum option.

Firstly, I don't wish to sound judgemental and this is only my opinion, but for the purpose of a review by an editor a forum is not really treated any different from standard static pages in as much as they have to have 'unique content' that is going to be of use to the user. This is where to be honest I think you may hit a hurdle. I assume the site is rather new so as yet the forum is yet to be populated but as a result the forum doesn't actually contain any information that would be of use to a user of DMOZ. (I know that sounds like I am being nasty but I am just trying to let you know what you may face - it is not intentional I promise!). The only way an editor can review a site is to access the content that is available NOW and not what 'may' be available in the future. I am afraid this is a hurdle that hits many webmasters.... How can you get visitors to the site so as to populate the forum (and help site visitors) if DMOZ won't list the site to tell people about it?? Catch 22 I know.

From what I have seen the main focus of the site is based around Florida saltwater fishing so if I was to pick a single category I would go for the more regional option of http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/ ... s/Fishing/ (the description for that category is here. The reason I said not to submit it to the saltwater category is because in http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Outdoors/Fishing/Saltwater/ the description specifies that "Guides, charters, resorts and specific locations must be listed in the appropriate Regional categories."

I hope that helps in some way an dI trust nothing I have said has come across the wrong way :)
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Post March 20th, 2004, 10:10 pm

I agree with Buster's last paragraph as well. Having recently gotten into dmoz, I was more concerned about being in the right "computer" directory (which was where my perspective was) and then in my mind placed geographic location after that in my priorities. The editor who placed my listing put it in my locality, and in my town under business and economy. After seeing it there, it makes more sense and makes me think dmoz does gear towards your locality.
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Post March 21st, 2004, 4:06 am

Just to add - there is no rule about only having one listing.

It is normal practice for us to list sites twice based on location AND based on topic. However for the topical section your site really must have content that is not already available from another listed site. A lot of the topical branches have a lot of sites in them so often a wide part of the topic is covered and it can therefore be much harder to show that the newly submitted site has something 'extra' to offer the topical category.

But, just to be clear, one listing does not influence the other. If you have a locality listing it will NOT affect your chances in topical (and vice versa).

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Post March 22nd, 2004, 9:24 am

Buster is correct, most of my sites can have 2 listings. I usually go after the Regional category first because I have seen that I get in quicker due to the low amount of sites submitted, I guess unless you submitting to some large city. I would also submit to the category that best fits your site. I think eventually Google with look at where your site in in DMOZ to help rank your actual site in their listings.

I also always look at where my competitors in Google, MSN, Yahoo are in DMOZ and see if it a right place for me. Then if you stuck between two great categories, I would go with the one with the highest PR and and the leat amount of links.
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Post April 6th, 2004, 7:59 am

Hey guys I submitted to dmoz back on March 22 and still havent seen my info yet.
Should I be looking for an email letting me know that I am listed?
Or does it just happen.
Lastly, what are my chances you think?
I have seen some pretty awful sites in my category that are listed.
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Post April 6th, 2004, 8:22 am

March 22nd is way to soon. I have a few listings I submitted back in January that are not there yet. It all depends on the editor and the number of sites that are backlogged. You are allowed to check the submission section of resource-zone.com to see your status once a month starting one month after your submission. Just make sure you remember where you submitted it to so you can tell them once your one month period is up. You can always check yourself on DMOZ by tying in your site...domain.com and doing a search. You will not get an email once it is included.
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Post April 6th, 2004, 9:42 am

floridafishandhunt.com wrote:
Hey guys I submitted to dmoz back on March 22 and still havent seen my info yet.
Should I be looking for an email letting me know that I am listed?
Or does it just happen.
Lastly, what are my chances you think?
I have seen some pretty awful sites in my category that are listed.
Doug
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Firstly, on the quiet (don't tell anyone :wink: ) I can confirm that at present no work has yet been done on your site. This means that it has not been rejected, moved or deleted at this stage. Again though regional reviews do tend to quicker than the topical categories.

Email - no. I am afraid the only way to check is infact to either manually search the category you submitted to or use the search facility. The search facility however is 'ropey' at the best of times and can be out of date but it is always worth a bash as it is free and quick!

As for the chances, I can really only say again what I mentioned above. If the editor, who already knows the category content well, feels that your site contains something that is both useful and not available elsewhere in the category he/she may list it regardless of the limited amount of posts in the forum. If not they may choose to leave it in the pile and check it again a litte later down the line to see if the posts (and thus calue/content) increases.
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Post April 6th, 2004, 10:01 am

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The search facility however is 'ropey' at the best of times and can be out of date but it is always worth a bash as it is free and quick!


And thats the key...its free. You won't be charged the $299.00 to be included like Yahoo. It has always taken a long time for my listings, but eventually they all get included.
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Post May 18th, 2004, 7:40 am

well,
It is now may and I still havent been listed should I site tight?
When should I get antsy? I considered editing my submittal info.
Is that possible or is it way too soon to get uptight?
I just want to know if I have been rejected.
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Post May 18th, 2004, 7:44 am

I still haven't had my reviewed since my submit in January. Sometimes it can take a very...very long time.
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Post May 18th, 2004, 10:25 am

It has not been rejected.
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Post May 18th, 2004, 10:29 am

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I still haven't had my reviewed since my submit in January. ....


Not sure which site you refer to but http://www.discount-home-office-furniture-and-more.com has recently been moved back into the pile to be reviewed in Shopping/Office_Products/Furniture after the site being down.

The other one is listed in 2 places.
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Post May 18th, 2004, 10:34 am

Yes, DHOF is the one. I spoke to an editor about it. I guess the site was unluckily down the instant it was reviewed...ug. I actually need it in the Home Office Furniture category, but I think the editor in the Furniture category submitted it for me again hoping that he could get it in sooner. Oh well. I will continue to wait and be patient.
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Post June 8th, 2004, 4:37 pm

{bump} http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Office_Product ... me_Office/
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