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whick category would you submit my site to?
http://www.floridafishandhunt.com
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http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Outdoors/Fis ... nd_Forums/

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http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Outdoors/Fishing/Saltwater/

Saltwater has alot more sites.
targets more people ?
what would you do?
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I would say first of all that the amount of sites listed in a particular category should not really make any difference when choosing a category within DMOZ. At the end of the day the topic/nature/content is the same and it will have its rightful place.

I am not a 'fishing' fanatic (although I do dabble!) so not my specialist field however the main key is to find the 'SINGLE' most appropriate category that covers your sites content. What an editor will look at is the 'main' focus of the site as opposed to the fact it 'happens' to have a forum. Thus I would suggest not submitting it to the forum option.

Firstly, I don't wish to sound judgemental and this is only my opinion, but for the purpose of a review by an editor a forum is not really treated any different from standard static pages in as much as they have to have 'unique content' that is going to be of use to the user. This is where to be honest I think you may hit a hurdle. I assume the site is rather new so as yet the forum is yet to be populated but as a result the forum doesn't actually contain any information that would be of use to a user of DMOZ. (I know that sounds like I am being nasty but I am just trying to let you know what you may face - it is not intentional I promise!). The only way an editor can review a site is to access the content that is available NOW and not what 'may' be available in the future. I am afraid this is a hurdle that hits many webmasters.... How can you get visitors to the site so as to populate the forum (and help site visitors) if DMOZ won't list the site to tell people about it?? Catch 22 I know.

From what I have seen the main focus of the site is based around Florida saltwater fishing so if I was to pick a single category I would go for the more regional option of http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/ ... s/Fishing/ (the description for that category is here. The reason I said not to submit it to the saltwater category is because in http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Outdoors/Fishing/Saltwater/ the description specifies that "Guides, charters, resorts and specific locations must be listed in the appropriate Regional categories."

I hope that helps in some way an dI trust nothing I have said has come across the wrong way :)
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I agree with Buster's last paragraph as well. Having recently gotten into dmoz, I was more concerned about being in the right "computer" directory (which was where my perspective was) and then in my mind placed geographic location after that in my priorities. The editor who placed my listing put it in my locality, and in my town under business and economy. After seeing it there, it makes more sense and makes me think dmoz does gear towards your locality.
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Just to add - there is no rule about only having one listing.

It is normal practice for us to list sites twice based on location AND based on topic. However for the topical section your site really must have content that is not already available from another listed site. A lot of the topical branches have a lot of sites in them so often a wide part of the topic is covered and it can therefore be much harder to show that the newly submitted site has something 'extra' to offer the topical category.

But, just to be clear, one listing does not influence the other. If you have a locality listing it will NOT affect your chances in topical (and vice versa).

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Buster is correct, most of my sites can have 2 listings. I usually go after the Regional category first because I have seen that I get in quicker due to the low amount of sites submitted, I guess unless you submitting to some large city. I would also submit to the category that best fits your site. I think eventually Google with look at where your site in in DMOZ to help rank your actual site in their listings.

I also always look at where my competitors in Google, MSN, Yahoo are in DMOZ and see if it a right place for me. Then if you stuck between two great categories, I would go with the one with the highest PR and and the leat amount of links.
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Hey guys I submitted to dmoz back on March 22 and still havent seen my info yet.
Should I be looking for an email letting me know that I am listed?
Or does it just happen.
Lastly, what are my chances you think?
I have seen some pretty awful sites in my category that are listed.
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March 22nd is way to soon. I have a few listings I submitted back in January that are not there yet. It all depends on the editor and the number of sites that are backlogged. You are allowed to check the submission section of resource-zone.com to see your status once a month starting one month after your submission. Just make sure you remember where you submitted it to so you can tell them once your one month period is up. You can always check yourself on DMOZ by tying in your site...domain.com and doing a search. You will not get an email once it is included.
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floridafishandhunt.com wrote:
Hey guys I submitted to dmoz back on March 22 and still havent seen my info yet.
Should I be looking for an email letting me know that I am listed?
Or does it just happen.
Lastly, what are my chances you think?
I have seen some pretty awful sites in my category that are listed.
Doug
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Firstly, on the quiet (don't tell anyone :wink: ) I can confirm that at present no work has yet been done on your site. This means that it has not been rejected, moved or deleted at this stage. Again though regional reviews do tend to quicker than the topical categories.

Email - no. I am afraid the only way to check is infact to either manually search the category you submitted to or use the search facility. The search facility however is 'ropey' at the best of times and can be out of date but it is always worth a bash as it is free and quick!

As for the chances, I can really only say again what I mentioned above. If the editor, who already knows the category content well, feels that your site contains something that is both useful and not available elsewhere in the category he/she may list it regardless of the limited amount of posts in the forum. If not they may choose to leave it in the pile and check it again a litte later down the line to see if the posts (and thus calue/content) increases.
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The search facility however is 'ropey' at the best of times and can be out of date but it is always worth a bash as it is free and quick!


And thats the key...its free. You won't be charged the $299.00 to be included like Yahoo. It has always taken a long time for my listings, but eventually they all get included.
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well,
It is now may and I still havent been listed should I site tight?
When should I get antsy? I considered editing my submittal info.
Is that possible or is it way too soon to get uptight?
I just want to know if I have been rejected.
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I still haven't had my reviewed since my submit in January. Sometimes it can take a very...very long time.
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It has not been rejected.
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I still haven't had my reviewed since my submit in January. ....


Not sure which site you refer to but http://www.discount-home-office-furniture-and-more.com has recently been moved back into the pile to be reviewed in Shopping/Office_Products/Furniture after the site being down.

The other one is listed in 2 places.
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Yes, DHOF is the one. I spoke to an editor about it. I guess the site was unluckily down the instant it was reviewed...ug. I actually need it in the Home Office Furniture category, but I think the editor in the Furniture category submitted it for me again hoping that he could get it in sooner. Oh well. I will continue to wait and be patient.
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{bump} http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Office_Product ... me_Office/
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Buster wrote:
{bump} http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Office_Product ... me_Office/


Yep, I finally got in like 2 weeks ago. :-)
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I 've got one question??????

Ive a site with page with all affiliate links & other one is actually a page selling products (not an affiliate). So I've submitted my site but did not get listed so what would you suggest ? Which page to submit ???? A page with a selling products or an index page with affiliate links also linking to the page selling non affiliate products ?
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i would suggest to sumbit page with selling proudct. We have tried to submit our site to DMOZ for more than a year and nothing and then submited one page from our site with description of one of our product and we were listed in like twoo weeks. So the more unique your page the better are chances to get in DMOZ i guess. although i am sure that others have different experience.
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Shrek_Update that is not quite the case.

Your site has been reviewed many times going back quite a while however everytime it has been viewed by an editor the site has been down. Infact as I try to look at it now I get a DNS error. The deeplink had no connection whatsoever with the speed it takes to get reviewed - an editor is either available to review that catgeory or not.

@ponpots - Unless your particular product is so rare and unique that it is not available anywhere on the net then a deeplink past affiliate pages is unlikely. If you are talking about http://www.the-resellers.com then it is my understanding of the notes that it has not yet been rejected/deleted or moved although an editor has had to delete duplicate submissions. I would suggest that you consider a visit to http://www.resource-zone.com and as for a status check.

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You should submit your main page and of course it should contain unique content ;)
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Shrek_Update wrote:
i would suggest to sumbit page with selling proudct. We have tried to submit our site to DMOZ for more than a year and nothing and then submited one page from our site with description of one of our product and we were listed in like twoo weeks. So the more unique your page the better are chances to get in DMOZ i guess. although i am sure that others have different experience.


You should never submit the product page. You will almost never get in. Always submit the home page. THe only time a product page will get in is if an editor feels that page has to do with his or her category. An example is that an editor, on their own, found a product on one of our sites that they were interested in putting in their category. They added the actual product page to the category.
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bump. Still no listing. March 22nd was my submit date. I am wanting this so bad. Who was the insider that could check the status of dmoz submissions?
Let me know!

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Still no listing. March 22nd was my submit date. I am wanting this so bad. Who was the insider that could check the status of dmoz submissions?
Let me know!


A couple of questions here.... so here goes.

I know in the world of 'Real Life' 4 months is a long time (a very long time infact) - however in cyber world where there are probably tens of new sites going live for each and every minute (maybe even second) of the day 4 months is the smallest pin in the worlds biggest haystack especially when you consider the amount of human interaction that is required to list a site in ODP.

Truthfully 4 months is not a long time and personally you would be better forgetting it as if it was not submitted. The deed has been done, you have done all you can, if it gets listed in the future.... BONUS!!! That truthfully is the way that you should look upon a listing in ODP. I can confirm that the site has not been deleted/listed/moved - so the news is not bad at this stage.

I want to say something but I want to assure you that this is a general comment and not directed at you, your site or activities. No site, whatever its purpose, should depend on one particular aspect to be successful. What I am trying to say is that no listing in any directory should be considered 'that' important and if a business or its success depends on that aspect then I am afraid the business model needs some serious work. I would be very worried if any of my associates started up a new business 'hoping' that Mr Jones from Jones & Co would end up being a main customer - especially if without Mr Jones purchases the business would fail.

The ODP is a very small fish in a very big ocean and there are hundreds of other ways to promote services. I know a listing in the ODP is good, that I don't dispute, but it is only one of many avenues.
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Thanks,
You see I said

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I am wanting this so bad


I guess this is a little bit of an exageration. What I really want, is to get above a pr of 4 . I have been a 4 for a month and I want to be a 5. Really though, what I really really really want is to not go to work tomarrow and go offshore fishing somewhere between here and the bahamas. 8) I care but I dont lose sleep over it. In fact I dont lose sleep over any of this. I do however lose sleep every night because I have two kids that are 2 and 3. :wink: This website is fun for me and I was just asking beacuse I knew you could look it up. I realize the last thing you want is 1000 people asking you about their status. Maybe you should be starting a website called http://www.secretdmozsitecheckfrombuster.com and you could charge 50 cents for a status check on submissions. Now there is a website.
Good Luck and thanks again!

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.... lose sleep every night because I have two kids that are 2 and 3


Exactly the same as me.... and girls are definately the worst!!! Mind you the new puppy is close on the heels of my daughter on the stress meter :twisted:
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Buster any chance you could get me an update still not a listing!
Let me know.
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floridafishandhunt.com wrote:
Buster any chance you could get me an update still not a listing!
Let me know.
Doug


Did you check the last time your category was updated? It will show in the footer of your category.
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November 26th 2004.
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Still nothing. I am starting to get frustrated.
Anyone have any ideas as to why I still am not concluded.

I dont get it. I havent emailed anyone or made anyone mad.
I have even tried to forget about it and have for short periods.

Anyway any suggestions would be appreciated.
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