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Post September 27th, 2004, 12:54 pm

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How do you get non-reciprocal links? (Paid links?)

Well, if everyone has a policy to not link out, nobody would get linked.


A great program for exchanging and managing non-reciprocal links is http://www.linkitforward.com . I recently signed up and even though the program is relatively new, I'm quite impressed with the quality and quantity of links I have received. I hope that helps you in your search for great links.

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Post September 27th, 2004, 1:47 pm

I'm still on the fence about those types of trades. Seems too much like se manipulation.
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Post September 27th, 2004, 4:32 pm

It costs $49.95 per month. RIPP OFF! That's $599.40 a year.

There's not value there.
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Post September 28th, 2004, 9:41 am

I agree with you that initially the cost may seem high but for me and I'm sure plenty of others out there, the cost of the service is cheaper than the cost of having a full time person employed to do links management, which is something that I was seriously considering. I still have to spend some time going into the program and responding to the link request, etc but it is way less time than what it used to take with the countless amount of emails written for link requests and then the checking to see if your link partner had indeed added the link and then periodically checking that the link was still there.

Just my two cents on the cost of the program :D

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Post September 28th, 2004, 12:09 pm

it depends on how good or how confident you are of your site, earn the money back and the price justifies!!

simple enough logic? :-)
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Post September 28th, 2004, 12:58 pm

When you consider the market.

linkmarktet: less $20/year 6000+ members

links-pal: Is free to join with some really great paid options.

superlinks is dirt chaep

linkalizer can't remember the price I think it's like $20

high PR club $99 one time.

Link explore costs a few hundred but it is still less annually than linkitforward and link explore is totally automated.

You can buy quite a few links for the $599.40/year linkitforward wants.

$599.40 can buy alot of links. You would do more
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Post September 28th, 2004, 2:24 pm

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Post September 28th, 2004, 2:32 pm

I would say yes if seo-girl created a thread just for that, but this whole thread is about getting links.

Another free one I have had a little bit of success with is Link Partners. I hate all the LinkManager sites listed there though.
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Post September 28th, 2004, 2:35 pm

id say yes because her first post was to promote her site... oh and then her 2nd post was too.
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Post September 28th, 2004, 2:50 pm

Sorry Jess I am not promoting "my site"

I work for an Seo company and part of what I do is research the seo and webmaster forums for new and relevant information and interesting threads. Coming across this thread I thought it might be appropriate to mention the service that I just submitted a few of our domains too.

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Post September 28th, 2004, 2:54 pm

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Sorry Jess I am not promoting "my site"

I work for an Seo company and part of what I do is research the seo and webmaster forums for new and relevant information and interesting threads. Coming across this thread I thought it might be appropriate to mention the service that I just submitted a few of our domains too.

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Well then consider me wrong and good luck ;)

Kinda looks a bit odd though when your first post isn't a helloo its a - "i love this company" and your second follows suit.

no harm mean't

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Post September 28th, 2004, 4:14 pm

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When you consider the market.

linkmarktet: less $20/year 6000+ members

links-pal: Is free to join with some really great paid options.

superlinks is dirt chaep

linkalizer can't remember the price I think it's like $20

high PR club $99 one time.

Link explore costs a few hundred but it is still less annually than linkitforward and link explore is totally automated.

You can buy quite a few links for the $599.40/year linkitforward wants.

$599.40 can buy alot of links. You would do more


Hmmm.... didn't even know of some a these options, have to check them all out... thank you!

I actually am signed up already with the "link it forward" system, and I've submitted nearly 30 sites to offer links from. When I first had a look I thought it may be a little steep myself but I understand the value of an appropriate back link, and I certainly know the value of my time in searching them out. Found the link it forward 'concept' somewhat different from many of link schemes currently being offered... so I thought I'd give it a try.

It's pretty user friendly and so far they seem open to suggestions (actually seen changes on the site soon after giving them feedback and figured that's a good sign they take the service they offer seriously... ). The first sites we got some credits for are already recieving back link offers and its been less than 2 weeks since they were put in the system... again not bad for such a new service. I can only imagine that it will take some time to build up their data base.

About these alternatives you've listed, are they all search engine friendly cause I know even some of the bigger player's (link management software etc...) products are not looked upon kindly by the se's, they don't seem to care much for things automated???

Anyway, new to your forum, got a link from a friend and love the look... it's very kewl! Although I did waste 2 signups before I got it right.... don't ask cause its embarrassing... lol

Was actually looking in a number of forums for anyone with experience using the link it forward deal so I might have a better idea what to expect... so far so good, I keep my fingers crossed cause we'z submitting more domains into their database tommorra....

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Post September 28th, 2004, 7:15 pm

Nanoreef

All the programs that I mentioned are search engine freindly.

I think the best bang for the buck is Link Market.


Vetofunk,

What has your experience been with Link Partners?

I don't really like those links manager links pages either.


Everybody probably knows about this site, LinkAdge. When links swaps just won't get you enough links. Just advertise.

Post September 28th, 2004, 8:48 pm

This is my first post in the forums; so let me first say Hello All!
My biggest question would be, what are you getting for your $49 a month? Much like a free link...you get what you pay for. Which in most cases is a link from an interior page with far more outbound links than inbound. Webspace mentioned "all these programs are search engine friendly", but that does not mean it will win you points with Google. We all know the passing PR of a page is divided by the number of outgoing links. And are they from relevant pages?
Two problems that webmasters are often faced with is 1. Sites with substantial inbound links and solid PR know the value of their outbound links. (And charge accordingly), and 2. In the really competitive markets, you're going up against companies who wouldn't blink an eye to spend an additional $5,000 a month for more backlinks....to keep them on top.
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Post September 29th, 2004, 3:11 pm

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My biggest question would be, what are you getting for your $49 a month?

Much like a free link...you get what you pay for. Which in most cases is a link from an interior page with far more outbound links than inbound.

Webspace mentioned "all these programs are search engine friendly", but that does not mean it will win you points with Google. We all know the passing PR of a page is divided by the number of outgoing links. And are they from relevant pages?

Two problems that webmasters are often faced with is 1. Sites with substantial inbound links and solid PR know the value of their outbound links. (And charge accordingly), and 2. In the really competitive markets, you're going up against companies who wouldn't blink an eye to spend an additional $5,000 a month for more backlinks....to keep them on top.


Wow... lots to address for only my second post.

I'm assumming you are referring to the http://www.linkitforward.com service when you say $49 bucks, cause that is what they charged us I think... but i was reading on one of the other forums today (don't know if i can mention the name here) that as an introductory offer to members of that particular forum, they are offering an introductory 50% discount that is retroactive. There seemed to be quite a response, but i can't help but wonder "what about memebers of all the other forums"!

Anyway, we joined the "link it forward" service only a few short weeks ago, and we've since put nearly 30 sites up offering back links. All off index pages so far, internal content pages from "seo tutorials" to "how to purchase a used car" and just about everything inbetween, will be put into the system at a later date and links offered up. The first to go into the system has already recieved back links, links that we accepted as being appropriate. It took less than a week too, which is not at all bad for a new service of this type.

As for what you get, it depends on the site you put into the system, your PR, number of existing back links and the number of links you're willing to put into the system... if you have a lot of pages and some PR and existing back links, then you'd probably recieve enough credits to trade for lots of "relevant, non-reciprocal" back links.... not much like a free link at all (less you take the time to find webmasters that will do appropriate and on-topic, non-reciprocal link exchanges with you)... perhaps you do get what you pay for after all... sure hope so cause we where one of the first to sign up.

As for number of out going links... when we enter our pages into the system we limit our offerings to between 10 and 12... but you have to remember, an on-topic non-reciprocal back link from a moderate PR site is worth more in the eye's of the spider than an off-topic reciprocal link from a high PR site... regardless of the out going links on each... at least up to a point.

Internal pages are not necessarily a bad thing either if they are set up right. Take links pages for example... you set them up as "directories or resource" pages, name them as such, break your listing up into distinct categories (one to a page so the page is on theme and can be effectively optimized), provide appropriate anchor text (for both se's and user's) c/w category kw's included, properly optimized descriptive text describing the target, and fully descriptive title attributes. Each page is fully optimized to bridge the gap between the category it covers and the domain wide theme, and a table of contents page (also properly optimized) is included, that links to each of the resource category pages.

Sounds more complicated than it is, it just takes common sense and a bit of time. If your out going links include links to what the se's see as "authority" sites, then in the eyes of the spider, that group of pages is seen as a "hub" providing usability and added value to the end user.
In fact we try and set up our site maps in a similar way and it is amazing how much some, not all, of the se's like them.

Point being, anyone linked to from one of these pages is getting good value because... limited no. of out going links (20 to 30), totally on topic and fully descriptive, optimized appropriately, and both se and user friendly! What more would a se look for in an appropriate back link. Basically it's like a listing in a well laid out, user friendly, on-topic directory or "Hub"...

As for "buying links", I avoid it with a passion. The se's frown upon it and it is expensive!

That's why we're giving "link it forward" a go... it's a great concept, se friendly through and through, and so far it appears to be good value for the investment.

Oh, and thanks to "Webspace" for the offering, I will be looking into his list and passing my own judgement on the services offered.

Sorry for the long post but I felt I had to respond.

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