putting coloured text on coloured background

hi,
i realise that putting text in same colour as background is ‘illegal’ do do on google etc.
but how about if the text colour is slightly different?
for example, if the text is nearly black (3333) and the background is black (0000).
do you think that would that be ok?
thanks,
tony

Do you mean for a block of keywords?

hi dm,
well, for either
a) a block of keywords or
b) a few keywords looking like something readable
for example:
website design and artwork, brochures, newsletters, logos. based in london but also available in scotland, america, brighton, south africa, wales........

you see what i mean?

OK, I think I understand. This isn't really a web-design question, so much as a search engine one. So, I'm going to move the question.

//moved

Horrible idea. They know what is close, besides-what does it do for the user?

I have taken a look at your site.
you need to get the source up to 5kb
preferably 6.5kb
if you put a javascript flash browser sniffing script in you can put in more content then.

Say you have a text box with a background gif of the same color as the text in your site.

Search engines surly can not tell what color a image is? Would you get found out by having this?

In a flash site for example...the words are in SWF.

serps can't read inside, put the words and background same colour?

It's Illegall the site owner can't get a Good SERP position if the content in SWF is good ?

OR

Is fair have same keyw and bk colour with the same words in SWF .

What you think about that ?

if you get a good ranking someone will take a look at your code and probably report you.


point 2

Google can now read text in flash files.

No googlebot detect flash swf , don't read inside swf, don't read links, don't read content, text , pictures etc etc.

We can't do a site and expect great position only with flash , that's a spider limitation, the site content it's a Hi tech, good creations, good looking, i saw several flash sites, half have text content with the same colour , it's fair until someone can do some better to read swf content, none of this sites have a great place in Google , but some of them have a very very good rank in other serps. I think Serps understand that and don't ban in that cases , content is the same, text is the same, it's fair i think, it's a spider limitation, webmaster only use the same content in both places.

It can sometimes read some flash files at a very basic level. And, a site can have a great position with an all flash site. Your inbound links will have a greater effect than any on page optimization that you could ever do. Placing hidden KWs on a page is a bad idea and way, regardless of how you do it. If you use images and the visitor has the images shut off they will see it. If you use text and a colored background, the visitor can override your color setting and choose their own-you have no control of that. Everyone will see a big empty space. It is spam no matter how you do it and it will be a great way to get banned from the engines. Contrary to popular belife, KWs on page really have a pretty negligable effect-especially since about 2-3% density is considered optimum. You are trying to use 1998 technology in 2004 and it sends a very unprofessional images to your visitors.

I was going to say that jlknauff but i was to lazy.
LOL

I don't use flash, it's my opinion about use or not of background text,there are many ways to put content in a site without the user see, why not background , why the other forms.
Most of us do our pages thinking in SERPS, in SERPS limitations, in PR, in ROI etc etc etc.If a page have that content and spider can't read why not ?Without Spam...

i agree w u in some aspects.

Use a flash sniffing javascript.
if browser supports flash it shows flash content, if not it shows HTML content.
and it will enable the spider to read the page.

What do you mean by this?