Is Google Adwords helps your ranking?

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Hey everybody...

I am wondering if anyone notice any change in his ranking/indexing after using the google-adwords...

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I have spent more than 13,000 with adwords, it doesn't help in rankings.

Overture I have spent about half that withing the last 3 months in context advertising. Yes it does, it adds to your backlinks. The reason that google adwords doesn't is because the placing of the code on context webpages doesn't allow your link to be indexed.

However if you email support@google.com and say hey I spent X amount of dollars with adwords and I think that warrants my website priority in ranking they have the ability to manual add PR to your pages and make google more actively seek out your site.

" The previous post is just my opinion and can no way be construed as actual fact "

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cdx wrote:
Hey everybody...

I am wondering if anyone notice any change in his ranking/indexing after using the google-adwords...

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Surely not helped :(
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However if you email support@google.com and say hey I spent X amount of dollars with adwords and I think that warrants my website priority in ranking they have the ability to manual add PR to your pages and make google more actively seek out your site.


Do you actually have an email from Google saying this?
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So you're saying that by participating in google adwords the ads that appear on the content sites (contextual) whenever google spiders those pages and finds your ad with your link, you don't get credit? But if you just email them you'll get it back? Wow that is nice.

Yeah I would be interested in seeing the email you sent and received from Google as well.
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fourthring wrote:
So you're saying that by participating in google adwords the ads that appear on the content sites (contextual) whenever google spiders those pages and finds your ad with your link, you don't get credit? But if you just email them you'll get it back? Wow that is nice.

Yeah I would be interested in seeing the email you sent and received from Google as well.



Google doesn't spider them because google adsense ads are "un-spiderable" yahoo msn and no one else can parse the urls since their generated by ip and dynamic. Various other kinds of ads are spiderable but the way google codes them the generation is kind of special not sure exactly how to say it other than that.

I cannot post any information I recieve from google or google support because that violates my TOS for adsense sorry.

But I can give you generalities of what I know to be factual anyway if you thinking of getting backlinks through advertising stick with kanoodle or overature contexual advertising but stay away from kanoodle if you want [quality]links[/quality] I have had bad experience with finding some of their PORN ! affiliates ending up in my backlink samples. Overture the is the best since yahoo only accepts high volume websites for thier contextual advertisers ie over 100,000 a month usually I think not sure on this. As well don't ask me about the purpose of my rediculous quality quotes and its purpose with G.
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There is no way Google gives any ranking priority to those companies who advertise with Google adwords. Our total spend is in the 100k's a year and we have a few google reps for our accounts. We get special attention to any issues or questions we have, and they would do about anything to keep us happy, but manually increasing PR or positioning is not one thing they can do.

This issue has been brought up many times in the past and their was no proof the Google Adwords has any effect on positioning in Google.
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Ya your totally right , I got some land to sell on the moon interested? What about a bridge?

That sounded like something a google representative would say.




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There is more truth to getting land on the moon than your statement, "However if you email support@google.com and say hey I spent X amount of dollars with adwords and I think that warrants my website priority in ranking they have the ability to manual add PR to your pages and make google more actively seek out your site."

If it was that easy, more people would be doing it, and it would be well known throughout the industry.
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If it was that easy, more people would be doing it, and it would be well known throughout the industry.



Ok sorry if I am offending you but you haven't spent that kind of money promoting either of the sites you posted in you sig... however how stupid would you have to be to believe that a multi billion dollar search engine doesn't have the ability to adjust the way it displays Page Rank or Backlinks or its visiblility in the search engines. That would be ridiculous to think its all automated with no manual ability to affect data. Sorry but engineers aren't that stupid and being a failed programmer myself I would suggest a back end that allows you to enter a change in on Datacenter on google that would be picked up and updated across the others.


Out of curiousity whats the url of the site you have spent over 100,000 a year with adwords. You should be pretty high ranked with that kind of budget.

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Your not offending me, we are both stating opinions, exactly what this forum is for.

I have new client in my sig and the company I work for. Neither which we are spending much in advertising. I am not giving out exact amounts from each client I have, but about 5 clients make up 90% of the figure I gave. That is why I have a personal account manager in Google and Overture for each of them. These sites do rank well, not because I advertise with them in Google Adwords, but because much more work has been put into them.

It would be rediculous to think that Google would go changing it's algo so that it could manually place sites at the top of the rankings and increase the Pagerank. That would totally go against relevant search...not that all their search is relevant. :-/

This is the same kind of theory that popped up during the last Florida update. Everyone thought is was related to Google Adwords, but everyone now knows it had nothing to do with it.
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I agree that it is quite a far stretch to say that Google has a backdoor tweak that can be used to give more PR or ranking to a certain site. It would definitely be a good project for hackers in that case. But who knows what goes on.

But back to the original question. While analyzing my site traffic and referrals I noticed some strange sites that I do not have any type of link exchange with such as CNN, etc (I wish I could have a direct link from CNN) Instead after looking at the data I foudn out the link was from an overture ad displayed on CNN.

Now I don't know if that will increase your PR or help you in the algo. It is most likely being filtered out. But regardless, it does provide more spider traffic to your site and gets your page indexed and cached more often. I would count this increased frequency of spider visits as an advantage to doing PPC. So yes to answer your question it is an advantage in some ways.
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This is the same kind of theory that popped up during the last Florida update. Everyone thought is was related to Google Adwords, but everyone now knows it had nothing to do with it.



The last update had everything to do with spammy links poor title tags lack of use of h1 tags and more emphasis on meta keyword tags.

And little talked about I think google penalized arrogant webmasters, but this is just a myth of mine as well. * Joke *

:idea: Maybe I should start a SEO website and get it ranked number one in 3 months just to prove my theories and make millions !

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Vetofunk, this is kind of an offtopic from this thread but after clicking on your sig link I noticed that there is a graphic image of a mountain climber on your header. This is the similar to graphic on realestatewebmasters.dotcom forum. Are you associated with seo-guy in any way? Maybe it's just a public image that you guys bought as well....
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The Google Adwords was just one theory that was floating in the forums and at the conferences, among many other rediculous theories.

Test your theory and give us your results, we would all be interested in seeing what they were.
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I am guessing it was just a public image bought, but it was on the site before I came to this company.

I was worried there for a second, because we have had two instances in the past year that stole our whole site layout and most of the same pictures.

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