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Post Posted: October 12th, 2009, 12:34 am

Can any one tell me Are reciprocal links considered spam? Are they counted towards my link popularity? Aren't they ruining the business image of my site? Spam is defined differently by different people. I can only say that Google prohibits the "I'll link to you, if you link to me" arrange...

Post Posted: October 12th, 2009, 12:03 am

My members often ask how to get more pagerank for their sites, so, just curious if some of you would like to share your methods of increasing Google PageRank to your site?

Post Posted: June 20th, 2008, 1:17 am

One of my main websites suffered major ranking drops, because i forwarded a few other domains i own to the main site, is this possible google would penalise me for this? ive now removed the domain forwards, in the hope i get my rankings back. What do...

Post Posted: June 20th, 2008, 12:53 am

You would probably have the same result just using a subdomain. Exactly right JCar. A subdomain is a different domain therefore links from your subdomain would count as external links (because they ARE external). Plus, you can keep your root name in front of visitors eyes. Bompa always keep learning

Post Posted: February 24th, 2008, 5:04 am

Thanks......that was really helpful. How can you be certain? OZZU uses a nofollow tag. So was the advice accurate? or were you just gullible? Hi atno, long time no see. :D Anyways, I hear that not all SEs pay attention to the nofollow attribute. Plus, there might be other sites that find the link a...

Post Posted: February 24th, 2008, 4:49 am

thanx weblaunch....for posting this one.. link baiting is very useful to my site also... is link baiting consider as a blackhat technique? Most people wouldn’t consider link baiting as a legitimate organic tactic because it seem like a black hat technique...Anyone can explain how it happen? Maybe w...

Post Posted: February 24th, 2008, 4:24 am

Well, I liked some of points, but some of them are unrealistic like "Be a comedian". Is it necessary to be a Comedian to get web traffic. I dont think anyone said that being funny is necessary. Humor is a well known linkbait hook and I think humor is one of the best linkbait hooks. Make a...

Post Posted: February 24th, 2008, 2:34 am

This thread is very helpful in the brainstorming sense. I mean, the ideas here can trigger more ideas. I would disagree that RSS submission can cause a problem with duplicate content. The only duplicate content filter that I know of is per query. In other words, if two pages have similar content, on...

Post Posted: February 19th, 2008, 6:03 am

I believe this is part of Google's solution to their "host crowding" problem. Google's "host crowding" is where they list several pages indented under the main page. Usually, there is just one indented, but for some rare queries webmasters were reporting many pages indented below...

Post Posted: July 31st, 2007, 7:06 pm

Submit the home page of your backlinks to Google. But beware that this is a powerful SEO technique Hmm? What good would that do? What is so powerful about that? and the algorithm relcalculation may be black flagged once the new site is demoted in Google. I'm just not following you, maybe I'm having...

Post Posted: January 8th, 2006, 9:56 pm

Managedlinks wrote:
You are making a rather large assumption that disabling the back button is the reason for the change in serps...

I agree with Managedlinks 100% on that point, but to a certain degree,
it's just human nature to make those associations.


Post Posted: January 5th, 2006, 7:15 pm

A competing website does some trick whereby when you enter a keyword into google, they appear top (my site number 2), and if you visit their website you cannot later go back to google to see the other search results... Do I understand correctly that the "trick" you are referring to, is on...

Post Posted: December 20th, 2005, 5:01 am

I checked your IP ok we are starting to find stuff there is 57 domains listed for that ip. perhaps the host is causing you problems the domain is listed using an anonymising service so google can't do a whois search. also your whois server activally restricts whois searches to 100 per IP so google ...

Post Posted: December 16th, 2005, 5:09 am

Johan007 wrote:
To clarify new websites have a greyed out PageRank where banned sites have PR0 and do not show up in the SERPS.

No offense, but, that is the exact opposite of what I have always heard
and experienced.

Did I miss something?


Post Posted: December 14th, 2005, 6:54 pm

Truce wrote:
To backup my above point, look at the following link: ...

Hey Truce,

We're talking about his other site



Post Posted: December 14th, 2005, 1:20 am

First I though delete revisit-after tag becuase your could be telling Google not to spider your site for 4 years. But sorry chap it looks bleeker than that. Well, I don't know. It's my opinion that something other than a ban is keeping Google from indexing alec's site. It could be the revist after ...

Post Posted: December 12th, 2005, 5:01 pm

At first I thought that I was still in the sandbox... The "sandbox" is for certain keywords in certain industries, I doubt "funny images" is one of those industries. My obvious conclusion is that my site is banned. I think you've been led astray or that you have misunderstood what you have been rea...

Post Posted: December 4th, 2005, 4:45 pm

Well, in the offline world, doesn't "very competitive" (market, industry, or niche), usually mean that there is more supply, (vendors), than there is demand, (searchers)? More sellers than buyers. How do we translate "supply" and "demand" into the web? We already know that not every page returned is...

Post Posted: December 3rd, 2005, 5:05 pm

what is a relative or a absolute url guys? An absolute URL is the full name, (or path), of the page on the web, such as, A relative URL is the name, (or path), of your page in relation to your document root, such as, /index.html or ../index.html Bompa

Post Posted: December 2nd, 2005, 9:12 pm

Hello, More and more often I hear the word "competitive" used to describe keywords. Usually refering to Google's algorithm, penalties, or filters. I am curious how you folks think Google judges the competitiveness of any certain keyword or phrase. Number of results returned for a search? Number of s...

Post Posted: December 2nd, 2005, 8:30 pm

In the sense of SE friendly, I don't think using absolute URLs vs using
relative URLs makes a bit of difference.


Post Posted: December 2nd, 2005, 8:27 pm

...I wanted someway in google itself to find my position. for example ; After getting the search results you can search within the results for any term. Some thing like that to find your rank. . The only accurate and reliable method I have found is setting preferences to display 100 results per pag...

Post Posted: December 2nd, 2005, 8:22 pm

vetofunk wrote:

example: miserable failure

I tried to optimize my site for 'miserable failure', but I can't seem to
get ranked by Google!!!!



Post Posted: December 2nd, 2005, 8:17 pm

Hey, If some of you SEOers are as good as you say you are then why are you still optimizing sites for other people and not sitting on a beach with your laptop managing your huge network of online stores?... Isn't this a bit like asking a financial advisor if he's so good at giving finnacial advice,...

Post Posted: December 2nd, 2005, 8:04 pm

i use Reciprocol links are not as benificial as they once were, but are still worth having. I think they are good as ever, but that is a hotly debated issue. All the other advice meman gave is good, I'm in full agreement with those tips. One slight drawback with these "clu...

Post Posted: November 30th, 2005, 4:19 am

Greatone wrote:
does this mean that google are already permitting duplicate contents?

Hi greatone, well we were discussing menu links, not content
unless I missed something.


Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 10:04 pm

Thanks Bompa. To confirm your comment, I did in fact "borrow" the idea from a top ranked website. While you're here, do you see any need for a page dedicated to a sitemap? preamp Well, there will be many webmasters that are using Google's sitemap feature that will respond with advice on that. They ...

Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 4:54 pm

OH, watch out for Google's dupe link filter!!!!!!!

errr...just kidding :lol:

I don't think Google has a problem with that. I have seen many
many top sites with their links in two places on the page.

It makes for easier navigation.


Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 4:35 pm

It would be interesting to know specifically what he meant by "some industries", im assuming he meant sites that have content that use highly competitive keywords and search terms to get traffic? Okay, I'll take a guess also :lol: Since Matt Cutts background is that he authored Google's Safe Search...

Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 4:22 pm

The sandbox effects have been confirmed by a google engineer. It seems bompa only has a problem with what we call it. Should we call it the "cloud jar", or maybe the "fluff bucket"?. Hi meman, actually "sandbox affect" would be a better term, but what really bothers me is not the name, but the lack...

Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 4:04 pm

Hi, I wrote that article (or blog entry). Hi Rusty, Thanks for that article, even tho I called it BS, hehe. I was only referring to the relationship of the headline to the next few statements. But anyways. It is not a direct quote. Thanks for saying that, imo most people think it is. Their eyes see...

Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 2:10 am

Ok, I stand corrected on that, thank you BWM.


Post Posted: November 29th, 2005, 1:40 am

Right, I was not there. Please clear me up on that quote. thank you, Bompa Thanks Atno, I had seen that article and it's obviously BS. Here are three parts of it.. First, the sensational headline: "Matt Cutts Confirms Google Sandbox Exists" Next p...

Post Posted: November 28th, 2005, 10:08 pm

Well, if he used a different term has it not occurred to you that he might have been talking about something different? Since he said it in response to a direct question about the sandbox, No, I never did think he might be refering to anything else. Nobody with any intelligence would.. ouch! At a r...

Post Posted: November 28th, 2005, 6:36 pm

..Matt Cutts, googles head of search, said differently. Only he used the term aging filter instead of sandbox if I recall properly. Well, if he used a different term has it not occurred to you that he might have been talking about something different? No, because you believe what you want to believ...

Post Posted: November 28th, 2005, 3:30 pm

You would be surprised how many otherwise intelligent people have been taken by this one tho. It's sad really. Did you know that over 70% of americans believe in angels? "Belief in heaven or hell is stronger among Republicans, frequent churchgoers, southerners and those with a high school diploma o...

Post Posted: November 28th, 2005, 3:16 pm

If it sticks at #10, somehow you got past the "sandbox", which is very rare. Okay, I promise, (fingers crossed behind back), this is the last time that I will try to wake up my fellow webmasters that have been mezmerized by the term "sandbox". Have you heard of the SERP contest they had at searchgu...

Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 7:37 pm

[ ...generally get Google exposure much quicker than those I've registered recently... I've also seen that even with new domains, those that are registered for 4-5 years in advance also get more exposure quicker than those I register for just 1-2 years. Hi Axe, Hope you don't think I'm attacking yo...

Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 5:02 pm

Axe wrote:
...If you don't have faith enough in your own site to register the domain for a few years, why should the search engines show faith in your site?

No offense Axe, but I don't think SERPs are about faith.

Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 4:54 pm

I'm not seeing any content at all on there now. As far as your "list", I know of several "bad" domains that aren't on it, so it's far from being a comprehensive list of "bad" sites. You don't know that Google haven't penalized one of the sites he was linking to. You have no access to their database...

Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 6:40 am

It could be that one of the link directories you've joined has been penalized, and thus you've been penalized for linking to them. Possible, but I don't see any bad ones there. You could check this list I just put online. Scroll way down to see the bad ones. Bompa PS: I wo...

Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 6:36 am

msezer wrote:

How can i get my site unbanned?

Could you provide us more information, such as, what makes you
think your site is banned? Where were you in the SERPs most
recently? Has your homepage ever had any PageRank?


Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 6:19 am

PageRank is ONLY based on backlinks - even if they're just internal backlinks. It's IMPOSSIBLE to get PR wihout backlinks as PR is (put simply) a visual representation of the number of backlinks a site has :) 0 Backlinks == 0 PR. I agree, however, if we find a page that has PR and has no backlinks ...

Post Posted: November 25th, 2005, 6:01 am

Ummm, so some of you folks think Google's software is keeping track of how many links a site obtains on each and every day of the year, month after month, year after year. And of course, monitoring the delinks. Graphing the trend of increasing link count over weeks, months, etc. Charting the average...

Post Posted: November 24th, 2005, 5:42 pm

Is there an easy way to mirror the site at ... Well, if you mean what I think you mean, you could redirect everything from domain1 to domain2 with redirectMatch 301 (.*) http://domain2.tld$1 But please do not trust me on the exact syntax of that. please do some research on '301 redi...

Post Posted: November 24th, 2005, 5:38 pm

Although I don't completely agree with vetofunk that the time online plays a huge role in ranking, You need to do some reading up yourself on Google's Patent application(s) last year. :) Google's Patent application itself states that site longevity (both how long it's been alive already, and how lo...

Post Posted: November 24th, 2005, 9:17 am

Although I don't completely agree with vetofunk that the time online plays a huge role in ranking, I do agree that changing your URL is not going to be an easy, smooth transition. If you had only a few pages on the first site, you could 301 redirect each one of them, but more than that is awkward at...

Post Posted: November 19th, 2005, 5:15 pm

When I first put my website online,, google found me and listed me, pretty good (I know google list new sites very good for a week, then puts them where they should be) Then i changed my design and disapeared of google. I am still not on google. This has been 2 weeks, I comp...

Post Posted: November 19th, 2005, 5:57 am

I don't know anything about your subject matter, but it seems like you have the whole health field to whom you could exchange links. A good place to start is with directories. First look for health care specific directories, then go for the general directories. search for 'foot conditions', 'foot ai...

Post Posted: November 19th, 2005, 5:42 am

First of all, don't let anyone tell you that your site has been
sandboxed, heh. There's no such thing.

Second, I see no links to your site with either Google or Yahoo.

You need backlinks!


Post Posted: November 15th, 2005, 6:48 pm

i_am_dhaval wrote:
Best For Seo

Well, in my opinion, it makes absolutely zero difference with serps.


Post Posted: November 15th, 2005, 5:19 am

Best for what?

Are you implying that CSS or lack of CSS has something to do
with SERPs?


Post Posted: November 6th, 2005, 3:36 pm

...For the most part from what I have heard getting links from guestbooks wouldn't necessarily hurt you, but there is a good chance it wouldn't help you either, thus you would be wasting your time... Ah, ok that's more like it. Sorry, but I went into slight shock when I first read your previous sta...

Post Posted: November 6th, 2005, 3:21 pm

I think they are refering to reciprocal links, which are very different to the ones you speak about. I don't think one way links could negatively affect your rank at all. Hello malprave, I didn't say one-way links. I just said that a very valuable site could gain 100 links quickly. They might be on...

Post Posted: November 6th, 2005, 4:16 am

...Google has cracked down big time on giving any credit whatsoever to getting backlinks from guestbooks... Hi BWM, I didn't know Google is not allowing PR or relevance, (from anchored text), to be passed from a page that is a guestbook. Can you please point me to some authoritative information reg...

Post Posted: November 6th, 2005, 4:07 am

Bigwebmaster wrote It is important these days to not aquire links too fast, especially at the beginning. What would be an acceptable rate of backlink building? How many links per...? month or week. What amount would be good and when are you overdoing it in a certain period of time?. Well, we can no...

Post Posted: November 6th, 2005, 3:51 am

Hi, There is new link exchange concept. take a look at this Chou Hi Nicky, Thank you for posting that link. It's been a year or more since I've seen a bonfide link farm. The telltale sign is that every member must download their set of pages and in this case, they want y...

Post Posted: November 1st, 2005, 2:02 am

Odd that I have been asked for feedback. When we give feedback on ozzu we are told that if we don't like how ozzu does things, go somewhere else. *sigh* So, the number one thing I would like to see is a change of attitude of some of the moderators. Sure, they are generally very helpful and skillfull...

Post Posted: October 19th, 2005, 2:30 am

Maybe just put what you had on just one line.


Post Posted: October 19th, 2005, 2:17 am

Because your doc type tag is messed up. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" ""> Why link to w3? Here's the doc tag from the 2nd site: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> Bompa

Post Posted: October 5th, 2005, 6:36 am

Axe wrote:
Why not simply post elsewhere if you don't like the way this forum is run? :)

Nobody's forcing to you stay.

He's just asking a question, why be so belligerent?

Did he hit a nerve?


Post Posted: October 4th, 2005, 1:46 am

DodgeCroft wrote:
Soon the casinos found it and begged for advertising space. That site is still one of their best converters.


Way to go dude.


Post Posted: October 3rd, 2005, 5:04 pm

I am looking for the short & effective way to get maximum links... If that is what you are looking for, I would suggest the link clubs where you join for free and can request links from other members via the online web service. There are many of these "clubs" online tho I forget their names at ...

Post Posted: October 3rd, 2005, 4:58 pm

Backlinks Backlinks Backlinks ...... I agree with Jess, although Axe has a good point that good content will attract links. In the old days of information sharing, the "content is king" was very true for all sites, however, nowadays, many webmasters are setting up shopping cart type of sites and se...

Post Posted: October 2nd, 2005, 2:23 am

Hi Nicky,

I get a Server Application Unavailable error here:

Is that the page name that should show?


Post Posted: October 1st, 2005, 10:24 pm

Which is search engine friendly? 1) <p>here is some text <p>here is some text</p> 2) <table>here is some text</table> <Div>here is some text</div> 3) 4) .com .biz .org or any other I don't think there is a...

Post Posted: October 1st, 2005, 10:22 pm

If you have images as your navigation links, is that not a good thing then??, even if you use the <alt> tags???. It's ok to use images for navigation links, but I like using text so my keyword is in the anchored text. I've not seen any proof that the alt tag is as meaningful since it does not...

Post Posted: October 1st, 2005, 10:09 pm

Here I ask something new or which u think really for my questions. Open the Type hrithik roshan u can see “ “ one of the top site. Open this site see the view source. It contains frame So what u think about it Why it is no 1? You ask that as if using frames woul...

Post Posted: October 1st, 2005, 9:08 pm

"Why cloak? Because search engines increasingly rely on bizarre and user-UNfriendly criteria for ranking pages. In effect, they penalize sites that aren't designed first and foremost for their spiders (which makes your site unreadable to actual human users)! Cloaker is the first tool to let you spl...

Post Posted: October 1st, 2005, 8:37 pm

How can I start seo company? How can I get work? Any idia any suggestions? Just place an ad. Sooner or later a customer will come along. :lol: Actually, one way would be to do SEO for free helping newbies. If they like your work, you could use their name and URL as a reference. Bompa

Post Posted: September 27th, 2005, 7:01 pm

Looks like just a Google search box.

You can do that too if you have nothing else to do and want
to help Google earn more millions :)


Post Posted: September 27th, 2005, 6:40 pm

meman wrote:
wow has google only been going 7 years?


The whole web is only 10 years (or so) old.


Post Posted: September 26th, 2005, 6:39 pm

So, let's see if I finally got it right: Start out with the login form in index.html. It points to auth.cgi which tests for login success. If it gets it, it puts up a Welcome page. If it fails, it puts up the Please Try Again page. That sounds good. On my main site, I have a members.html page. It's...

Post Posted: September 25th, 2005, 5:06 pm

Good morning/evening, I have some's that point to there equivilent .com's However the poeple i bought my domains from, forward to my .com using a frameset. Eg, the .com is included in a frame and we are still, stricktly speaking, at my Gees, that is ridiculous! Are you havi...

Post Posted: September 25th, 2005, 4:30 pm

I see redirects all the time. Your redirect has a 5 second delay while giving them a message, then it redirects them. The ones I see have 0 seconds and redirect to another logon/forgotpass html page. I might still be missing your point, but I'm in the mood for a rant :D You could have your auth.cgi ...

Post Posted: September 24th, 2005, 5:42 pm

echo "<P>You ordered "$_POST[quantity]" bags of coffee.</p>"; echo "<P>Bags of coffee are \$$fmt_price each.</p>"; Actually, I don't know much php, but I think some of the same syntax rules apply as with perl, so I would say that you should remove the quotes around $_POST[qua...

Post Posted: September 24th, 2005, 8:18 am

I heard having too many out going links (more than incoming) is bad. I prefer to use all absolute links when making my pages, so HOME would be linked to instead of ../../index.htm Does Google see this as an outgoing link? Or is it smart enough to see that it is...

Post Posted: September 24th, 2005, 8:14 am

how many backlinks would I have to aquire roughly to gaine these pr's? pr 5 pr 6 pr 7 when I say backlinks im talking about a link exchange and people posting your links on forums etc, not hard index link trades thanks in advance I think this is a great question. Actually, someone with way too much...

Post Posted: September 24th, 2005, 8:00 am

Ah, I see.

Well, I named my login script auth.cgi :D

You can't or don't want to rename your script and have the login
page point to the new name?

Anyways, if you're keeping yours welcome.cgi, then a meta redirect
with a 5 sec message as you are doing is just as good.


Post Posted: September 23rd, 2005, 10:17 am

edawg wrote:
Found this about google, wanted to share, could be of interest??.

just type in Google in the quick search box.

hope you find this of use.

Google has a patent on an inflatable bed?


Post Posted: September 23rd, 2005, 10:10 am

More over iam changing my server now and I have all the similar files in other server too which is need to point the old domain to this and i want to retain the old domains PR. I have renamed all the files in the new server by suffixing 12345 to all the files so that it doe...

Post Posted: September 23rd, 2005, 9:34 am

Pretty much, people out there have bad positioning and then just blame it on "I am still in Google's sandbox", when actually, they just haven't optimized their site correctly. Oh okay, now I getcha and I agree 100%. "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underli...

Post Posted: September 23rd, 2005, 12:33 am

vetofunk wrote:
i_am_dhaval wrote:
When u r in top ranking "your targetd keyword" in google.............

You really never know...I mean you could be out of the "litterbox", but your site is not optimized well at all, and therefore you still think your in the "litterbox"...


Post Posted: September 18th, 2005, 6:28 pm


I usually just read the Google Topic, but I've been coding in perl for
a few years and could possibly help a newcomer.

If you have a perl question, put "perl" in the Subject so we can find
it more easily.


Post Posted: September 18th, 2005, 6:25 pm


I'd like to suggest that the Topic be split into a PHP Topic and a
PERL topic, and maybe others.

I really don't know any PHP, so I have to wade thru tons of posts
to help someone with a perl question.

Just my 2 cents.


Post Posted: September 18th, 2005, 6:10 pm

Sorry for my late response here.

I can help you with this, but I'm not sure what stage you're at
with your perl code and not sure what you mean by "branches".

Did you just mean IF ELSE THEN type of control blocks?


Post Posted: September 16th, 2005, 4:13 am

I recently been editing the keywords to my Ror and to my shock my pr3 dissapeared. I've been playing around for a week now, changing keywords trying to find the original settings becuase everytime i'd change keywords in my ror files my pr will either appear or dissapear. I just can't seem to find t...

Post Posted: September 16th, 2005, 3:49 am

phaugh wrote:
....sites that are collecting funds for disaster victims are currently seeing a big surge in natural links...but are not being banned...

I think that says it all.



Post Posted: September 16th, 2005, 3:48 am

Tweakers wrote:

Google has two ways to find out websites that link to you:
- ""
- ""

Never heard of that @ one before, thanks.


Post Posted: September 6th, 2005, 3:29 pm

It ranges to much. It is impossible to throw out a number. It depends on the market your going into, the cost per click of the ads, the effectiveness of your site. I started in April (site was up since January) making a couple hundred a month and now I am making a few thousand a month. Wow! You mus...

Post Posted: September 6th, 2005, 3:25 pm

Hello! Can anyone recommend an SEO organization (or individual) that they trust or have experience with. I've done some searching around the net, but it's just so hard to know who to trust. If someone here has some experience and is interested in working with me directly, I would be open to that is...

Post Posted: August 31st, 2005, 7:33 pm

Hello guys, nobody care about sharing some knowledge :shock: Where the moderators where you need them, my guess some of you know the answer to this, so why not respond? hi reaper, It is not that we do not want to share information, but that they are saying their pages disappeared and then came back...

Post Posted: August 31st, 2005, 7:30 pm

I believe google has the ability to penalize single pages on websites. i have found some of my pages were penalized 3 years ago and stil as of yet have not come back. Hi vitanet, Disappearing pages does not necessarily mean a penalty has been imposed. When a SE makes a algorythm change tens of thou...

Post Posted: August 26th, 2005, 5:00 am

I am tired and had enough to be on google or dmoz directory. I still cant get my webpage anywhere. It is just a personal it so hard????? Is there any other domain you can suggest that should be better? Could you suggest any mistakes in the webpage I need to correct? rashmi shamanna How lo...

Post Posted: August 26th, 2005, 4:47 am

3. Googlebot is crawling my site too fast. What can I do? Please contact us with the URL of your site and a detailed description of the problem. Please also include a portion of the weblog that shows Google accesses so we can track down the problem quickly. That m...

Post Posted: August 24th, 2005, 10:31 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Google oddly enough wasn't any help. Actually, if you can put your page in frames, you can create adsense with an attribute informing Google's mediabot to look at a specified frame for the content. My site is frame based, so how exactly do you do this? Codes? When I create ...

Post Posted: August 18th, 2005, 5:33 am

But i could disable image ads if didn't want them on my site, right?. Correct. Regarding your other question, I think you are too worried about things before you even start :shock: Plus, if you put too many ads on your page, some might not show up due to lack of inventory on their part. Sign up and...

Post Posted: August 17th, 2005, 7:30 pm

I am always trying to gain useful inbound links myself (my page is PR 5) wanting pr 6-8 etc. The prblem I'm fining in my industry, is everyone who has a high ranking site is a competitor. How do you aquire or find quality sites to link to you in the ecommerce world? From what I gather high PR inbou...

Post Posted: August 17th, 2005, 6:45 pm

My guess is that one of your competitors reported you :D There's nothing wrong with interlinking 150 sites, except that all your sites serve the purpose that one site could serve. Basically, you're trying to flood your market with your domain names. That's an old trick. If you did that in my market,...

Post Posted: August 17th, 2005, 6:13 pm

reaper wrote:
Because if these image ads would appear suddenly on my page, how can the ad being placed on a page be placed in the way the siteholder would like to see the ad being placed?.

Because the ad space is the same size no matter if text ads
or image ads are being delivered.

Post Posted: August 17th, 2005, 7:12 am

Nice! A couple of these critters have been appearing on my site today. This is the first time I have seen an Adsense image add anywhere (but I don't go looking for 'em though, so maybe that explains it). Anyone else seeing this on your site(s) ? Or have you always had them here and there? Hiya, May...

Post Posted: August 15th, 2005, 1:17 pm

Hey Bompa: The article I read is here: Let me know if I've misread anything :) Thanks for coming up with the link. I'm not saying you misread anything, but that article is an editorial, meaning it's opinion, not "news". The author likes to say "t...

Post Posted: August 15th, 2005, 12:45 pm

Who are those people named in the patent application?

I didn't see Page or Brin there or the Google name.


Post Posted: August 15th, 2005, 10:09 am

I have google ads on my site. However, the my site is a membership community, so I'm assuming, the googlebots can't see the content because the need for php session cookies. This is causing the google ads to be totally irrelevant to the content of my site. How can I fix this? Can I specifically ask...

Post Posted: August 15th, 2005, 9:55 am

gfawce1 wrote:
. . . Google will now track how fast you acquiring new inbound links and if it sees you growing links too quickly you could be flagged up on their "spammer radar" as being a spammer instead of a genuine concern.

Could you give us a link to where you heard that news please?


Post Posted: August 15th, 2005, 3:18 am

Solutions and SugarKane, Greetings, Both of you agree that PageRank is an attribute of a page, not of "a site", yet you both continue to refer to a site having, generating, or recieving PageRank; there's just no such thing. Let's take an example. I have a site with only one page:

Post Posted: August 14th, 2005, 9:16 am

Sites don't have PageRank, pages do. When a webmaster says that a certain site has a PR5, what he/she really means is that site's homepage has the PR5. In my understanding of PR, every page is ranked based on it's individual place in the overall www linking structure. That rank has nothing to do wit...

Post Posted: August 14th, 2005, 7:42 am

My $.02. ...I am certain someone of your vast forum experience comprehends the term "bumping" and what it implies, therefore I am perplexed by your confusion... Ah, yes I understand the term bumping and that bumping can have selfish intentions. Now I understand where atno is coming from. It just di...

Post Posted: August 13th, 2005, 7:07 pm

What's your point Bompa? You replied to this post nearly 6 months after the question got answered (back in 2003), and then again today more than a year and a half later. The question was answered, so what's the point in bringing ...

Post Posted: August 13th, 2005, 4:37 pm

This may have been asked before, but that doesn't matter, cuz if I "dig up" an old post and reply to it, it might be removed and a warning given to me, (including a few unrelated insults), by a moderator. I just re-read the five pages of rules, mostly about putting sound in flash sigs, gees. I didn'...

Post Posted: August 13th, 2005, 3:47 pm

What is the equation? 1. links? quality of the links? 2. 3. key words? 4. number of pages? whats the equation? any clues as to the variables that make a site relevant? From my experience 1. Links from high PR pages with your keywords in the anchored text . Other factors are so much less im...

Post Posted: August 13th, 2005, 3:11 pm

According to Google, nope!

According to my site, nope!

I've been using Adsense for about one year and it has not
helped in that regard.


Post Posted: August 12th, 2005, 5:57 pm

beefcakejcc wrote:
...(however do avoid linking to spammy sites)...

Please, what is a "spammy" site?


Post Posted: August 12th, 2005, 3:30 am

Hi, I have a site here and for some reason I think I have been penalized. If so, when will this end and when will it be reconsidered? If you can see why it is penalized, I would appricate your input in me making changes. regards Michael I see a PR0 and zero backlinks. Wh...

Post Posted: August 12th, 2005, 3:25 am

Money is the root of all evil... HAhah Yea well I only trust google. for some strange reason. Whoa! Money is not the root of all evil, it is the love of money that is the root of all evil. There is a big difference. Money is a blessing because it ended the awkward and incredibly limited bartering s...

Post Posted: August 12th, 2005, 3:16 am

For every link you give you lose something and for every link you get you will gain something.. i did not know that for every link you give you lose someting... is that true? :?: Well, losing something means you are giving to the site you link to. Listen, every link is 'a vote' for the page linked ...

Post Posted: August 12th, 2005, 3:05 am

What are you folks using to create your site maps?

Do you recommend any particular software for this?

Or, are you creating it by hand?


Post Posted: August 12th, 2005, 3:03 am

At the top of "",there is a link "Automatic link exchange". If we join them,will it be possible looked as joining "link mall" by GOOGLE? Some has joined them? I give...what's a 'link mall'? Another vague term originating from a rumor and ultimately meaning nothing? :D Bompa

Post Posted: August 11th, 2005, 1:42 pm

My problem is: My site is named Another Fantasy. My username is Vidda. My featured work are named Stressed and Lancers & Dragoons. Why is that a problem? Well there are millions of sites and projects using the name Another Fantasy. Vidda is a word in some foreign language and also the name of a...

Post Posted: August 11th, 2005, 1:00 pm

Have any of those site ever been in the top 100 with Google
for 'web design'?

just wondering,


Post Posted: August 9th, 2005, 8:21 pm

...The only meta-tag that tells spiders what to do is "robots". Mr WiseSEO, I think your statement is inaccurate. FROM: 13. How do I prevent Googlebot from following links on my pages? To keep Googlebot from following links on your pages to other pages or documents, yo...

Post Posted: August 8th, 2005, 6:09 pm

I don't agree with you. First of all to get 100 good PR backlinks for your new site in the first few days sounds almost impossible. I mean good PR backlinks 3+. Yes, I agree, it is close to impossible, but not all mine were PR3+ and I had most of them lined up before I published the site. . Second ...

Post Posted: August 7th, 2005, 4:05 pm

Hi all, I wonder if any of you can help me solve this problem. My site is and it's been online since the end of March this year. Google have yet to Page Rank it, and I've checked everything I can think of that may be causing it. Tonight I ran the ...

Post Posted: August 7th, 2005, 3:19 pm

Maybe you are the sandbox, Its a google filter for new sites.. It could take up between 3 - 6 months. Sorry, but I feel compelled to say this again :x The Google ' sandbox, filter, waiting period ' is nonsense. The reason it takes 3 to 6 months, (or whatever), is lack of backlinks. Want proof? Laun...

Post Posted: August 7th, 2005, 2:59 pm

Now google even refused to put adsense on my site, do you have any idea why? First time I ever heard of Google refusing an average site. What do you mean "refuse"? Did they actually send you an email telling you 'sorry, but we are not allowing you into Adsense'? If so, what was their reason? Bompa

Post Posted: August 7th, 2005, 3:16 am

:) this is google so you never know exact reason and i guess we were banned for ban company websites to which we linked from our directory, plus our directory looked to google like links farm with "recioprical links" functionality. So we completely removed the directory and that proved to be right....

Post Posted: August 6th, 2005, 7:01 am

The way you link to your internal pages can affect the PR distribution within your site. If every page links to every other page then the PR should be the same on every page - but this isn't really possible with a large site. Yes, that would be correct assuming no links from other domains. The thin...

Post Posted: August 6th, 2005, 6:49 am

How is it that when I search for "relient K" (just an example...i think they kinda blow...) the description under the name isnt whats displayed on their front page, but when you search for my website the description is the front page (whic...

Post Posted: August 6th, 2005, 6:42 am

I found this article ( ) that talks about this website making one million in 2004 on the site. The part I find most interesting, is that they claim to be somehow manipulating the google adwords program to increase the relevance of the ads sho...

Post Posted: August 6th, 2005, 6:11 am

But I checked his site before few days, there is no result for his site but today it's showing the BL, link popularity and got ranking for keyword. However I agree if Google bans a page it will have gray bar! In this case it is confusing! Yah, my point is that with 8 billion pages on tens of thousa...

Post Posted: August 6th, 2005, 4:17 am

I always thought Google indexes the web every single day. Search results continually change from day to day with new content being reflected in the search results. What are these "updates" that folks still speak of ? Hi, "indexing" refers to putting the pages in a certain order, with SERPs, this wo...

Post Posted: August 6th, 2005, 4:06 am

As far I as I know, a page that is banned by Google would have
a gray PR bar.

I'd say the whole thing was just a glitch as nothing we do can affect
the serps in a few days without an update (sometimes *two*


Post Posted: August 4th, 2005, 12:03 am

Thanks for your reply. I find lots of PR8 website's link page has page rank of 1 or 2 or even 0.Can anyone advice how to choose high PR websites? Ahhhhh. Here's the trick. Their link page should be linked from their homepage, cuz that is where the highest PR will always be. From the homepage count ...

Post Posted: August 3rd, 2005, 11:31 pm

What is "custom 404 pages"? Give me example also............ First, 404 is the error code which means "web page not found". Every web host has a 404 default page which is delivered to the browser if the requested page is not found. So, a custom 404 is a web page you create yourself anyway you want ...

Post Posted: August 1st, 2005, 11:46 pm

WHat is Google "sand box" exetly? Lately the Google Sandbox is just a myth which refers to a waiting period. Generally speaking, "sandbox" refers to an area to develop new things. LIke this: Bompa Some people love to mix and twist terminology, it con...

Post Posted: August 1st, 2005, 11:36 pm

Hi all... Check out this page: Old trick of putting text in the same color as the background... Is google ignore it? It has a PR of 4/10 ! Can anyone explain it? Guy. My guess is that Google does not consider those words as relevent to ...

Post Posted: August 1st, 2005, 11:06 pm

Is there any risk we get penalized for this if we use it? Why would we be penalized for mutually linking with other sites? Has someone told you that there is "good" linking and "bad" linking? Who told you that? Was it Google? Was it someone claiming to be an expert? Was it someone just repeating wh...

Post Posted: August 1st, 2005, 10:39 pm

Hmm....Some link exchanges could actually do more damage to your site than good. My friend once got his position reduced in Google & MSN due to some popular Link Exchange program. ~ CC Hi Crono, I don't know what link exchange could possibly do harm. Certainly, there are many rumors floating ar...

Post Posted: July 30th, 2005, 1:41 pm

I recommend using a custom 404 page.

I have one that has a small menu on it :D


Post Posted: July 30th, 2005, 1:32 pm

Hi, My site is, however i'm not in google search engine, i've been around for about 2.3 months (100% Uptime) and i have many hits to my image host. If you know the problem can you please tell me how to fix it. I submitted many times before in p...

Post Posted: July 26th, 2005, 1:17 am

In my opinion, the "quality links" are the same "Theme" with our website. That will make our website relevant and get more PR Hi, How do you determine theme? Wouldn't that mean sites using the same keywords? If so, your links are to your competitors. This is where theme-linking webmasters usually s...

Post Posted: July 26th, 2005, 12:23 am

I created the same for gambling sites, so all you people with the non quality gamblings sites can automate the links exchange as well at my seo site below. *clap clap* Maybe I should start one just for the pill sites :D I'd probably make a million bucks just from advertising on it. hahaha

Post Posted: July 25th, 2005, 1:45 am

i tried several of them and found them all craps, too many spammers at those kind of exchange platforms. I dont suggest any of them. Instead try to contact personally with some quality sites also this will make you keep your site quality too. People love to say get "quality links", but there is no ...

Post Posted: July 23rd, 2005, 2:02 pm

Can you guys recommend your favourite free backlink exchange program. I have taken about 2 months to get a PR2. Now I need to get about PR4/PR5 to compete with my competitors. (cape town accommodation guides). Hi, I use several. They are small, but the links add ...

Post Posted: May 28th, 2005, 3:21 pm

Hi, Google toolbar PR has disappeared many times before. My guess is this is just a change in the way the PR value is sent to the toolbar from the datacenter. This will make all the new PR "finder" software useless until the vendor or script author figures out the new code. QUOTE: "Google Toolbar 3 ...

Post Posted: April 7th, 2005, 10:45 pm

Hi everyone, Hmm, it's been about a year since I've visited this forum, heh. Well, feels good to be back and I have a lot of reading to do :D But first, when I was here last, I had done a lot of research on Google, especially the Florida update and I've put all that one a new site for those interest...

Post Posted: November 27th, 2004, 3:59 am

vision wrote:
Anyone know of a method to see inbound links to a site, but exclude links from the site in question?

For example something like:

Hi, why exclude the site in question? Do you think those links dont

(I'm back).

Post Posted: September 30th, 2004, 4:38 pm

beefcakejcc wrote:
Is there a way I can remove just the page from Google and not the rest of my site?

Yup, go here:

I've done it and can say it works like a charm.

I'm bacccccck

Post Posted: February 24th, 2004, 1:22 pm

Anchored means the keyword is part of a link.

For example, 'philippine' is an anchored keyword in my signature.


Post Posted: February 7th, 2004, 8:40 am

I read that I should only get links from related sites. Do you think putting links in Guestbooks will help my page rank ? I haven't found anyone with a related site that wants to add link to a commercial site for free. I'm a small home based business and can't afford to pay for a link. Pesonally, I...

Post Posted: February 7th, 2004, 8:27 am

Hi. This may sound pretty silly, but has anyone noticed that if you type link: Results: 22 compared to link: Results: 11 Ok, so which is the correct way? Or, does Google count both? Curious, Melanie At

Post Posted: February 6th, 2004, 10:32 pm

Adjusting your meta tags will not help your PR Rose. To increase your PR you need to get inbound links to your site from other websites, and the higher the PR on the sites that link to you, the more likely it will increase yours. Yep, and just to keep something clear, it is the PR of the page linke...

Post Posted: February 5th, 2004, 3:50 am

Voting buttons: If you especially like or dislike a web page you're visiting and want to share your opinion with Google, you can vote thumbs up by clicking the happy face or thumbs down by clicking the unhappy face. These buttons can also be used to report especially useful or unsatisfactory result...

Post Posted: February 5th, 2004, 3:26 am

Another interesting example is that your own site gets a backlink from it's own links.html page, heh. SEO Guy - professional search engine optimization. Newest SEO Projects. Here is a list of some sites that I am currently working on ...

Post Posted: February 5th, 2004, 3:00 am

Wow fiesty :-) Hi, You said, "it has been shown". Usually when that expression is used, it means that several studies have been conducted and the findings of those studies agree on similar or same findings. (At lease that's my perception.) That's why I asked for your source.

Post Posted: February 4th, 2004, 7:17 pm

Also it has been shown that pages called "links" do not pass Pr or backlinks its best to go for sites that have someting different for a file name such as "resources.html" etc I think that's totally ridiculous, but you say 'it has been shown', so can we have the url to the publically documented tes...

Post Posted: January 28th, 2004, 4:11 am

I take SEO seriously but I only swap with related sites cos that what my user wants. Put users 1st then SEO However Inktomi reads Bold and Headed text on the referring url so Google could do the same in the future! The Theory is talked about in googe By making...

Post Posted: January 24th, 2004, 3:17 am

Every question has been asked and discussed at great length. If we are going to allow only new topics, this forum is going to get very quiet. I don't see any effort coming from you on this question either...probably because the posts I was referring to were yours and we all know to type every answe...

Post Posted: January 24th, 2004, 2:52 am

I would agree with Unflux --- although it might be a little time-consuming for one person to check against all the posted topics, a new topic posted is less-time consuming for the individual but more time-consuming for everyone in general. Yes, good point, but Unflux did not suggest that he utilize...

Post Posted: January 21st, 2004, 1:16 am

moved since PR = google this question has been asked and discussed many many times at great length. Search ozzu and start reading, because I assure you it's a lot. Every question has been asked and discussed at great length. If we are going to allow only new topics, this forum is going to get very ...

Post Posted: January 19th, 2004, 10:09 pm

I need help with Google PR of my sites. How can I increase my PR already tried everything possible. I'm participating in JS Commission Linkexchange program and the guys are telling me that only link exchange can help me. I am very happy I am working with them but s...

Post Posted: January 14th, 2004, 1:35 pm

gkboomus wrote:
what do you think about fooling the googlebot, so when
you detect it you output something else well prepared for
google page rank algoritm?

what are the drawbacks?

You have no idea what ominous forces you are upagainst!


Post Posted: January 13th, 2004, 11:36 pm

Wondering if anyone knows if you can get a banned site back into google? In my case the site was dropped from google's index close to a year ago. It now shows a page rank 0, and 0 backward links, even though there are many sites with decent (4 or higher) pagerank that still point to it. When I got ...

Post Posted: January 13th, 2004, 4:23 am

This thread is starting to sound like a bunch of old unix geeks saying that point and click is silly; nothing like good 'ole text commands. :)

Post Posted: January 8th, 2004, 12:17 am

Hello everyone, I started this thread in order to debunk some very common beliefs about Google's search engine results positioning, (SERP). It's not that I have any special knowledge, expertise, inside information, or otherwise relevant skills, it's just that I don't believe things simply because so...

Post Posted: January 6th, 2004, 6:37 am

Hi, I'll take a stab at this one. The PR showing on your site is that of the page on your site' host, while the PR of the backlink is the PR of that page not on your site's host, but on one of Google's servers. That's just a guess, but in any case, the difference between a PR0 and a PR1 ain't much. ...

Post Posted: January 6th, 2004, 12:20 am

I have some marketing experience, but I'm a complete amateur at search engine optimization and web design. I have a bunch of affiliates from the Clickbank network. My site has 909 diferent webpages linking to it the last time I checked. However, I can't seem to get listed in the search engines. Hel...

Post Posted: December 26th, 2003, 5:06 pm

I downloaded the google toolbar so I could follow my page rank and the page rank of my competitors. It worked fine until a little while ago where it dissapeared off the toolbar and now I can't seem to get it back. Anyone know how? OH wait! At first I thought you meant the whole toolbar disappeared,...

Post Posted: December 26th, 2003, 5:03 pm

1.) I downloaded the google toolbar so I could follow my page rank and the page rank of my competitors. It worked fine until a little while ago where it dissapeared off the toolbar and now I can't seem to get it back. Anyone know how? Yipes! 2.) Does google automatically recrawl my page and how oft...

Post Posted: December 25th, 2003, 12:07 am

As you are not listed within Google or the other major search engines yet, it may be best to exchange links with a few good sites that has similar content to what your site has to offer. Hi john, I realize that it is the popular thought that one should link with "similar" or "related" sites, but in...

Post Posted: December 24th, 2003, 11:32 pm

I'll just say that I agree with pompei and john52, I think they both
gave common sense advice and there's no need for me to repeat it.


Post Posted: December 24th, 2003, 11:30 pm

Hi Bompa, I disagree on a part of what you said. I don't believe there's any limit to the number of reciprocal links a page or site can have. In fact, I think the more the better. Yes I agree that it is good for a site to have as many reciprocal links on it as possible. But I don't agree with what ...

Post Posted: December 24th, 2003, 8:26 pm

Is there a difference in putting these in your meta tags? large shirts, medium shirts and large, medium, shirts My guess is that it depends on the search engine and that adjectives like "large" and "small" would be dropped; not counted at all. In fact, a few years ago, I did some coding work on a p...

Post Posted: December 24th, 2003, 8:23 pm

look my other post... and sincerly .. use your time for other meta tags since the search engine are not using those keywords anymore I realize that what you're saying is popular opinion, but I've never heard of any verifiable proof or ...

Post Posted: December 24th, 2003, 8:16 pm

paulk wrote:
Just don't link to sites that look spammy

Define "spammy"

Post Posted: December 23rd, 2003, 4:40 am

Bigwebmaster wrote:
If you submit to become an editor of a large category right away, there is about a 99.9% chance you will be rejected.

Are dmoz editors allowed to put ummm... "dmoz editor" in their
forum signatures and other such things?

Also, do dmoz editors ever recommend people for editor postions?

Post Posted: December 23rd, 2003, 4:36 am

homer simpson wrote:
what are the other basic factors that I didn't include?

Can you say "anchored keywords"? :)

Post Posted: December 23rd, 2003, 4:33 am

I don't think cross-linking is considered bad at all. Everything is fine as long as its done in moderation --- extensive amounts of cross-linking will eventually appear artificial (e.g. 1000 links out to pages that each link back), in which case they would be penalized as artificially trying to boo...

Post Posted: December 22nd, 2003, 3:43 pm

I wonder how well Google's page rank works. I have a 3 page rank in Google, and I don't get very much traffic. In fact, I started a message board... and it still has no posts. I can't understand how Google works. Neither can I, heh. What's your site's URL? What keyword are you most targeting? Bompa

Post Posted: December 22nd, 2003, 3:36 pm

I know that one way to get popular in search engines is to get popular sites to link to you. How can I find sites that will link to me? And, how do I go about asking them to link to me? Thanks. Try reading my amateur article... Bompa

Post Posted: December 20th, 2003, 5:46 am

I'm not sure how irrelevant Google's indexing is compared to before. Google had one big problem, and that was spam in highly competitive keywords (like credit cards) where the results were quite simply terribly spammy. At least now, some results show non-profit sites that actually display informati...

Post Posted: December 19th, 2003, 4:02 pm

Before the last few Google updates, the health insurance site I believe was in the top 20. The last update seriously hurt the site. The site lost numerous rankings. Also I believe Pompei could be right, Wow! Are you planning on splitting up any of your sites to different servers? I think Google als...

Post Posted: December 19th, 2003, 3:48 pm

I know this is SLIGHTLY off topic, but the focus of this discussion is how long it takes, and I am asking an even more focused question about how long does it take? How long does it take to have a new category created? How long does it take to get listed in a category that already exists and HAS NO...

Post Posted: December 19th, 2003, 6:29 am

If you ever have the time, I would be curious what you could research on: health insurance and if it goes along with the findings you found before. I might get to that soon. However, in checking your health-insurance site, out of curiousity, I noticed that it has a PR7 and over 4,000 Google backlin...

Post Posted: December 19th, 2003, 5:54 am

Personally, I think "bad neighborhood" is a term that Google's
public relations department dreamed up in order to make us
paranoid, heh.

They know that we can't avoid "bad" sites if they don't define


Post Posted: December 19th, 2003, 5:48 am

I'm interested in the DMOZ debate --- whether it makes a difference getting listed or not. I _feel_ like getting listed is a boost, because the source for the link is quite reliable and it would be pretty simple for Google to give additional weight to its anchor text. If I was a Google engineer, I ...

Post Posted: December 19th, 2003, 5:31 am

pompei wrote:
Most quality websites have a unique server IP though...

The quality of a site has absolutely nothing to do with having
a unique ip or sharing an ip.


Post Posted: December 17th, 2003, 5:24 am

My site uses frames, and I hear that causes problems for search engines. If I made my index (first page loaded) a little welcome screen with no frames, would that allow the page to be found better? Any tips/tricks appreciated! I don't know where you heard that, but I don't think frames are a proble...

Post Posted: December 16th, 2003, 8:25 pm

Many people are convinced that they should swap links only with related sites. They feel that this is so important that they routinely reject link swap offers because the site is not related to theirs and they dictate link swap policy that excludes non-related site. When I ask them why they believe ...

Post Posted: December 16th, 2003, 5:14 am

Will SE's pick up pages that have shorter roots and list them better and more quickly? i.e. vs. vs. A few people think so, my personal opinion is that it is not the depth of the directory structure, but rather ...

Post Posted: December 16th, 2003, 1:30 am

I only get about 5% of my traffic from Google :(

I am missing a huge amount of traffic because my site is still
not near the top of the SERPs.

Almost all my traffic comes from niche directories.

But maybe if I took my hat off, I could see what I'm doing ;)


Post Posted: December 13th, 2003, 9:47 am

Thanol wrote:
Oh and I never said they penalized people for interlinking sites. Your words not mine.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that.

Post Posted: December 12th, 2003, 8:23 pm

Accually Google does care now. They've institued LocalRank. Thanks for the reference. In reading that article, the first thing that strikes me is that the author clearly points out that he is repeating the theories of others, not known facts. Also, according to his explanation of LocalRank, owners ...

Post Posted: December 12th, 2003, 2:19 pm

Here's a dandy: >>CSS to design the site instead of tables Although it doesn't help directly, it makes your html pages much smaller - thus a better text to code ratio - thus better placement. Oooooo.... "a better text to code ratio". . That's a good one; it sounds so techie. ;) The quote above...

Post Posted: December 11th, 2003, 7:22 pm

YEAH!! thats it thanks! i wasnt too far off i guess with eliza haha Eliza is an artificial intelligence robot which attempts to respond with an ummm...intelligent remark whenever it's name is mentioned in an IRC chatroom. It's been around for a long time, it was one of the first of it's type. Of co...

Post Posted: December 11th, 2003, 7:14 pm

How bad will trading links w/ your own sites on the same server be in regards to PR and Google positioning? Will it hurt? If you sites are different, not duplicates, it's a great thing to do. To my knowledge, Google does not check who owns the site nor does Google care if two sites are on the same ...

Post Posted: December 11th, 2003, 7:09 pm

homer simpson wrote:
Why is cross linking so bad and bascally isn't cross linking just link trading?

What exactly do you mean by cross linking?


Post Posted: December 11th, 2003, 7:00 pm

I see alot of posts about PR and link backs and how important they are but I also see alot of high PR sites w/ good placement w/ very few link backs and not so high PR sites that are listed high on keyword searches, why is that? I know what you mean. A couple things have already been mentioned. A f...

Post Posted: December 11th, 2003, 3:56 pm

Phaugh, thanks for your example. I think the 100 link suggesstion is more about plain simple eye appeal than anything else. Plus, the PR, (strength of the vote), is so small at that point that Google may see it as a waste of it's time to calculate, hehe. Remember, Google tells us what they want us t...

Post Posted: December 11th, 2003, 3:47 pm

cardesign wrote:
Many sites that relied greatly on forum sig links have had their PR drop a value

Any webmaster that relies on forum signature links for PR deserves a drop in PR, good for Google.


Post Posted: December 10th, 2003, 6:56 pm

Yeah i would not call it "misinformation" persay, but rather "different opinions" ! :D Yes, I know what you're saying. It's an odd phenomenon. In real life, when I'm talking person to person with somebody, they always preface their statements with "I think..." or "Maybe..." or "I wonder if it could...

Post Posted: December 10th, 2003, 4:57 pm

...You have to remember quality links come without an exchange e.g. I link somewhere to provide useful info. Those are the kind of links Google likes. That's not necessarily true. How could it be? Let's say for example, that I have a webmaster resource site and that you also have a webmaster resour...

Post Posted: December 10th, 2003, 4:33 pm

I wasn't poking fun at anyone's question. I was trying to answer it with a guess, and it appears I was right. Not sure why you feel that I was doing so... :? Oh ok. I thought you were joking because I thought everyone learned that term in their first few days in a webmaster forum, sorry. SEO = sear...

Post Posted: December 9th, 2003, 11:26 pm

Go ahead, poke fun at my question, but Ed implied that Google has an "SEO filter" in place and he claims to have actually seen sites that have been penalized for "SEO techniques". My question fell on deaf ears. Search engine optimization is no different than making your site search engine friendly, ...

Post Posted: December 9th, 2003, 2:07 pm

Especially from me. I am a speculator. heh, well there's nothing wrong with speculation if it's writen as such, but if it's written as though it were fact, then I have a problem with it and a problem with it's author. There is so much misinformation on these webmaster forums that it boggles the min...

Post Posted: December 9th, 2003, 1:52 pm

venom wrote:
How exactly does the gogle ranking work?

None of us know exactly. It's a secret that Google holds tightly, but stick around and you'll read many, many speculations about it.

Post Posted: December 9th, 2003, 1:49 pm

Many people have the idea that an SEO filter has been applied and this cannot be good. There has been evidence against this but I have seen a lot of sites that have been penalised for using SEO techniques. Hi Ed, What do you mean by "SEO filter"? I don't think I've heard that term before. Also, how...

Post Posted: December 9th, 2003, 12:46 am

Originally posted on a different forum: "If there are more than 100 links on a page then Google will ingore the page because they have said that more than 100 links is too many. If you have 50 links on a page, it is unlikely that much pr will get passed. You want to try to keep it at a maximum of 25...

Post Posted: December 8th, 2003, 8:10 pm

From another webmaster type forum: "A link from DMOZ is counted greatly because Google likes web sites that are indexed in DMOZ. Google themselves uses DMOZ listings in their directory, which will count as another good link. Google sees DMOZ to be very important." How many times have you heard that?...

Post Posted: December 8th, 2003, 5:54 am

"Here's what I have so far..."

Marcus, did you collect those yourself?

I assume it's okay if I add them to the list on my site?
It's a free resource.

If the list is yours, in that, you compiled it yourself, I'm
certainly willing to give you credit.


Post Posted: December 8th, 2003, 5:45 am

Minne wrote:
is ther a list of a lot of directories so i can add my site to them

Someone gave me a list long ago and I've made it available
on my new webmaster tools site, see my sig.


Post Posted: December 8th, 2003, 5:40 am

I know, but then when i goto a meta tag thing that tellsm e if my meta tag info is good ad they say its sucks! and that means i suck at writing up stuff for the tags Maybe you could post them here, one at a time, and let folks critique them? Personally, I'd love a shot at you, errrrr...them hehehe ...

Post Posted: December 8th, 2003, 5:36 am

Looks like Google is updating PR and my portfolio we site went from 3 to 5 :) Congratulations, that's a nice jump. I also went up just this past Saturday from 4 to 5. I got many, many more backlinks during November, I'm pretty sure that's what did it for me. What do you attribute your PR increase t...

Post Posted: December 7th, 2003, 12:23 pm

It does reduce the validity of them though. People prefer to swap with links pages that include less pages Yes, you're right there, the strength of a page's 'vote' is reduced by the number of outgoing links. I'm not sure of the math, maybe someone who's studied the PR docs could comment. Bompa

Post Posted: December 7th, 2003, 11:03 am

...but if you have over 30 links on one page then you start to look like a link farm and google can penalise you for this. Ed, Think. If that were the case, Google would be penalizing dmoz and thousands of other directories. By the way, what's the difference between a directory and a link farm? Ask...

Post Posted: December 7th, 2003, 8:48 am

cardesign wrote:
The main reason is the I don't want a crowded links page. .

Well, you've met your objective there, hehe.

One other method is submitting to directories, especially the small niche directories, many don't require a back link which is right up your alley.

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 10:07 pm

darkmonkey wrote:
i ve inserted a noframes tag, could you try to view it agian, and tell me?

Still doesn't load for me, must just be me, since Rich can load it.

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 10:04 pm

Hi. I've just signed up to this forum because I am a webmaster for the first time and I don't have much experience and all that... However my problem is this. I had my site on google until the other day (with a low rank that's true) and now it disappeared, don't know why. Maybe someone could give m...

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 10:02 pm

I currently have a pr of 5 on my main site Blue Universe (link in sig) but I am hoping to build this up to something like a PR of 7. I need links but these are very hard to get. How would you recommend going about getting them. I bet the links that you already have are pretty good ones, right? PR6'...

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 9:51 pm

If you check the -googlegoo results closely you'll find they are not the same as last months SERPs and the non commercial searches that are meant to be identical (non commercial 'keyword -googlegoo' = 'keyword)' are not so the entire theory falls apart.). -googlegoo ? commerical, non-comercial? I h...

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 9:47 pm

6. Inbound links yes, try to get your keyaords in the anchor text, very important. Outbound links no (a big no), every link out leaks PR from your site and this means overall your pages will be harmed. Com'on! My homepage has been a PR4 for months with 3 backlinks showing with Google. In November I...

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 7:03 am

Thanks plaugh. "... emphasized more traditional factors such as anchor text..." It just seems to me that anchored text, being part of a link, is also part of the PageRank system, and therefore, this is not news and not a change. In another forum, a poster started a new thread titled "This is what's ...

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 6:38 am

do you have to sumbit your site to be on google, or does it just search through the net?, if so why doesnt mine appear? Yah, Google will find your site via links, IF you have links from other sites. Where are you expecting your site to show? I tried viewing your site, but it wouldn't load. If you a...

Post Posted: December 6th, 2003, 6:29 am

I did extensive research on the top 100 sites under my keyphrase and 1 was PR7 13 were PR6, 55 were PR5, 27 were PR4 2 were PR3 0 were PR2 0 were PR1 2 were PR0 I checked many other factors besides PR. I was trying to determine how my competition got to the top. The results of my research are docum...

Post Posted: December 5th, 2003, 5:58 am

Looks like anchor text in the new King.... "In an effort to weed out the noise, Google constantly refines its weighting algorithm, which it says is a combination of a hundred different factors. In an attempt to thwart deliberate gaming by link farms and blog noise (exacerbated by lossy software gim...

Post Posted: December 3rd, 2003, 6:19 am

Minne wrote:
see i just noticed my google page rank was 4. is 4 good? is your site??

It looks like a PR5 to me, you must be doing something

Need another link? I'll link with you :)

Post Posted: December 3rd, 2003, 6:14 am

see i just noticed my google page rank was 4. is 4 good? Well, yes a PR4 is good, but I think it's also slightly below average. My homepage is also PR4 :( I did extensive research on the top 100 sites under my keyphrase and 1 was PR7 13 were PR6, 55 were PR5, 27 were PR4 2 were PR3 0 were PR2 0 wer...

Post Posted: December 2nd, 2003, 4:20 pm

No, it's not the last new one, it's the new new one :p From what I am understanding, they are changing several things in their importance structure, sort of going to a weighted linking system. Basically they're looking to make the system "truly democratic," or something similar. This impacts link e...

Post Posted: November 22nd, 2003, 9:19 am

Hello Everyone, I'm Bompa and I just joined this forum. I'm from Massachusetts, usa. I enrolled in The School of Hard Knocks this past June when I started my first, (commercial), web site. I spend hours everyday aimlessly surfing the web and prayerfully trying to improve my site's conversion ratio a...
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