I hacked 3 sites and Microsoft Servers.

HA! I knew that title would get you to click it, and if you are a Mod, you probably knocked your coffee over trying to get in here and lock this post lol. But yea my question is Why can't there be a hacking forum? I always tune my networking teacher out when he talks about cyber law, so is it illegal or something to tell someone how to circumvent software and security? Or do we all put on our "White hat" when it comes to Ozzu

Its not illegal to talk about circumnavigating security measures, but its illegal to do it.
And understandably OZZU wouldn't want to attract people interested in doing it.

Go to any security forum and see how many threads get locked because people just dont get what it's about.

Plus i dont really see how "hacking" would fit in with OZZU. It would be as out of place as a "we love britney" forum.

Meman, that is perhaps the best reply I have seen you make at OZZU. Thanks for saying it. Saves me the trouble.

Maybe I misunderstand the word "Webmaster" or maybe misunderstand Ozzus' definition of a "Webmaster". What master do you know goes down a tunnel of knowledge, a master runs through a forest stopping at every tree and learning all about it.

Maybe a section for discussing how to secure your website would be nice but not discussing the hacking techniques in detail how this circumvention can or would be achieved.

This kind of section would be interesting but for this a certain amount of people with hacking or cracking skills is needed and only tips could may be given to webmasters here to improve their security regarding defacement or other type of actions that can seriously damage your website.

It would be like inviting a ex-burglar to your house and letting him make an evaluation on your residence...he wouldn't have to tell you how he would be making advantages of your weaknesses but only how to improve your security so you have these weaknesses resolved in an effective manor or better manor then before.

But making a section on the forum for specificly discussing techniques how to circumvent security measures would be a mistake to have on this forum but having a section for improving or evaluating your website's security would be a good thing to have in my oppinion.

Here are several definitions of Webmaster.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=de ... +webmaster

None of them mentions hacking. Like most forums they start out with one thing in mind, in this case Web design was probably the main focus but over time other forums developed because a demand was needed.

Hacking is one of those touchy taboo topics that people are interested in but don't necessarily want to be involved in. Creating that type of forum would invite a mess. There are plenty of sites dedicated to hacking and cracking. No need to start one here.

You are absolutely right but a section as i described would in my oppinion be quite usefull.

Security I agree with. Security can cover a broad spectrum of topics such as websites, databases, servers, so on and so forth. And it doesn't necessarily need people with hacking/cracking experience, it needs people that are experienced in security. Sometimes those two are hand in hand. It would require the moderators to keep a very keen eye on the forum to ensure that hacking info wasn't being posted.

So that means that you follow one of those definitions?....No? What's that? You have your own definition? So wouldn't that make your argument irrelevant? Oh sorry you said you do follow one of those definitions, so that means at no time do you stray from that definition, must be boring.

but ok, I guess an Integration of Jinx and Ozzu is out of the question.

I was thinking....Jozzu or Ozzinx

While we appreciate the suggestion, there will be no hacking forums here. For the most part it attracts the wrong audience.

I do sorta agree with that in a way, my college is going to be offering a course and they are actually going to call it a Hacking Course and I got into an argument with my teacher about how it would only attract stupid people that have no idea of what a computer was until movies like Sneakers and Hackers came out and that all intelligent people would be turned off by it just because of the name and he should just call it advanced network security and everytime he felt the urge to say hacking just say advanced security. Only thing cool about the school is that they will offer any course if enough people want it *prays for C++*

You know what's cool. Search engines see Cpp and C++ as the same thing.

Actually, I am not a webmaster at all. I am a network/systems administrator. I have very limited knowledge when it comes to being a webmaster. Yes I can write html/xhtml by hand, yes I can set up a webserver using Apache or IIS and yes I know how to secure them. But in no way, shape or form do I consider myself a webmaster. That is why I only moderate the Windows and Hardware forum.

I just wanted you to know what the common definition of a webmaster was and I never said I followed one of those definitions.

Are you a guy, because I swear that every time I have an argument with a girl I hear that last line.

O. o. Methinks GeekSince3 just insulted a Marine! *sits back and waits for the fireworks...