For those asking, 'What's the best version of Linux'

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I've just recently discovered an interesting web site which asks you a series of questions and then recommends a few distributions of Linux based on your answers to those questions. I found it rather interesting and think that it could be quite useful as the question is often asked, "What's the best version / distribution of Linux?"
The website is here: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
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Quite a good website; It recommended me SUSE, Mandriva and Fedora, but I'm currently using Ubuntu and am happy, well except it wont except my wireless card, grr...
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Have you tried the other distro's?
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I've tryed Linspire, do you know any Distros that might accept it? (Linspire didn't by the way).
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hmm...it appears i've left my psychic abilities in my other pants ;)

what's the make/model of your wireless card? lol
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Lol ok x).

Errrm I'm not sure it's just a cheap one from Maplins... Lol, although the Linksys WPC54G didn't work either.
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hmm...does the OS recognize the card is there? or does it pretend it completely doesn't exist? does it start pcmcia? did you try installing the windows drivers with the Linuxant DriverLoader? have you tried to compile (if there is one) the linux driver for the card(s)?
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Hmmm well I have installed the drivers with Ndiswrapper, and no lights come on the card whilst it is plugged in (when the Linksys one is in the power one only comes on) and I have tryed the hardware command (I forgot what it was) and it didn't mention it at all :(.
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i was having toruble getting my wireless adapter working on debian. i finaly got it though perhaps this simple quick how to will work for you.

1. plug in your adapter (im assuming you already have ndiswrapper installed)
2. after downloading the appropriate drivers (if needed like for linksys you might need to use wine to extract the drivers) type in "ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf"
3. check with "ndiswrapper -l" it will show the driver and say if its installed correctly. if it doesnt say its installed correctly and driver is present then you have the wrong drivers buddy. but if it says hardware present then lets move on.
4. after this i did "ndiswrapper -m"
5. then "modprobe ndiswrapper"
6. if you havent already since you say your using ubuntu "apt-get install wireless-tools" (if thats not the correct name then "apt-cache search wireless" should come up somwhere"
7. now "iwconfig" it should show you info for wlan0 if so your doing good
8. now you need to configure some things try "iwlist wlan0 scan" it should then pick up wireless connections hopefully it will pick up your router if so move on.
9. now "iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid_here"
10. now "iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed"
11. now here i used dhcpclient but in theory you should be able to use dhcpcd but i liked dhcpclient better so go ahead and do an apt-cache search for either one you want and then install it.
12. if you chose dhcpclient then your going to "dhclient wlan0" if you chose dhcpcd then your going to "dhcpcd wlan0"
13. this should be it but it didnt work for me untill i rebooted so what i did was modify /etc/network/interfaces to make wlan0 primary just replace the eth0 you see with wlan0. and you also are going to have to have ndiswrapper load on boot so you modify /etc/modules
and then just simply add the line "ndiswrapper" and when you reboot it should load up ndiswrapper and it should connect to your router hopefully.

by the way if your using some kind of encryption like WEP your gonna have to add that after step 9. the command is "iwconfig wlan0 key yourkey".

guess this isnt really quick but hey hopefully this works. it worked for me after hours of trial and error.
good luck!

EDIT: i just noticed your using a pci card. i was using a usb but hopfully it shouldnt matter. once again good luck!
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i got recommended gentoo or slackware WOO!
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iHATEgentoo.....

i was recommended debian, fedora, mandriva, suse, and k/ubuntu. lol gentoo & slackware were on my "these are DAMN close to fitting your criteria" thing at the bottom. lol
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gentoo just hates you so, but she loves me : P
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hahah, its true. i was thinking about trying to install it again but.....:sigh:...maybe i'd just do the i386 version? or something? because trying to compile while telling it i had a 64-bit cpu just WAS NOT working....and i did have the right kernel, etc.
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tom, you may also want to check out this link - i believe it would aid you: http://whitepapers.techrepublic.com.com ... .6224,6278
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Thank you Enjoi_Panda_Man I have printed off your post and when I have access to my Linux computer I shall try it :D.

And AnarchY SI, thank you very much that link looks to be very useful, I am going to go read the PDF now :lol:.
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I like to say RHEL because its commercial...that means you get support, updates and people are serious about it.
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no problem. if you need me to clarify anything ask away
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Wow! Guess what I'm using to write this! Ubuntu! It worked! Thank you both so much :D

One (new >.<) problem I am having is that when I turn it on it goes straight to the shell, no login screen, no graphics what-so-ever... To get the graphics to load I have to press esc before anything loads and select 'Recovery Mode' then it takes about 15 minutes but eventually works... Any ideas as to where I might have gone wrong or how I can think fix it?

While I'm on the subject of my Linux problem, :lol:, For the first few minutes that Ubuntu is running the buffer is messed up or something, as it repeats the key I pressed like ten times, unless I type really slowly... Again any help with this would be very welcome :D.
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im not sure what ubuntu uses to log in. i know debian uses gdm so im guessing ubuntu does as well if so then im guessing something is wrong with that. as for your seccond problem im not sure im quite understanding. could you clarify please?
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what he's saying is that when he types, if he doesn't type at an extremely slow rate then when he presses the 'a' key, ubuntu outputs: aaaaaaaaaa, or if he typed the word 'cat' he may get ccccccccccaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt

that would be quite annoying, but i have NO clue why it would be doing that. nor have i ever encountered that. lol


when was the last time you did a system / gnome | kde | xorg update?
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Lol it was very annoying indeed, but both those problem don't matter anymore as I reinstalled Ubuntu and everything is fine now :D. Works everytime ;) :roll:.
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well thats good. lol


i still dont really like ubuntu...
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one question are you using a multimedia keyboard. if so it could have had a glitch and gotten the wrong driver and had it output a huge number of letters. just a thought
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thats true i didnt think of that. for some reason my wireless usb keyboard constantly is sending some type of input and it only really affects the console.
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Nah the computer with the problem is a crappy old Toshiba laptop. It's probably just out-dated or something >.<.
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i see. well thanks Enjoi_Panda_Man im gonna start working on the problem in a little bit
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forgot to mention that the files you have to modify to load ndiswrapper on boot and have your wlan0 be primary might be different or in a different location. not entirely sure but i think this might be the case.
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I have a project on simulating performance of the EDCF protocol used in 802.11e norme.
After implementing this norme and running an exemple there are some errors like type mac inconnu.
After that i have ommited all instructions concerning base station BS in my script, the error is segmentation error.
Without this step i can not progress please help me
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i would help you but i have no idea as to what the hell you're talking about. you should make a new post for this so more people can see your problem.
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adolphe wrote:
I have a project on simulating performance of the EDCF protocol used in 802.11e norme.
After implementing this norme and running an exemple there are some errors like type mac inconnu.
After that i have ommited all instructions concerning base station BS in my script, the error is segmentation error.
Without this step i can not progress please help me

You need to take the YTRSA and integrate it with the KGDF. The YTRSA will allow your to set your MAC which can then communicate with your base station.

If this sounds like a bunch of BS, it's because it is. Go create a NEW post asking your question properly, but before you do you need to gather pertinent information like what language your script is in, what platform it runs on, what you're using for a base station and how you're connecting to your network device. It might also help to post it in the correct forum {my guess is that this has nothing - or very little - to do with Linux}
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Thats a pretty sweet site. I got recommended "SuSe" and "Mandriva". :D
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how about the mandrake........mandrake is good version too............but i am asking how can i play a windows games like Online games (ex. world of warcraft,RFOnline,other RPG games)..........

and how about xandros is he compatible to the windows game that i mentioned earlier............
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frezasaga wrote:
how about the mandrake........mandrake is good version too............but i am asking how can i play a windows games like Online games (ex. world of warcraft,RFOnline,other RPG games)..........

and how about xandros is he compatible to the windows game that i mentioned earlier............



you're not speaking clearly. did you even go to the site?
and the games working isn't exactly distro specific. i'm not sure about online gameplay but i would imagine it wouldn't be much different than any other gameplay which you would accomplish with cedega ( http://www.transgaming.com )
oh, and mandrake isn't called mandrake anymore since they merged with another linux company. now they're mandriva. and i agree, i have a dual boot system with the mandriva 2006.0 free ed. and it works great. i dont have dependancy problems at all which is extremely rare. i'm quite surprised at that. but yea...if you dont want to pay for cedega, you could always try running your games with wine ( http://www.winehq.org ) but its not as sure fire that they'll work..
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dont even bother with wine for games. wine is very basic with little compatability. for gaming its gonna be cedega all the way. one of my buddies from college told me that linux machines running games with cedega have actualy out benchmarked pcs.
but i find that kind of hard to believe. i would try cedega out myself but i have an ati card on my linux box and any linux user will tell you how much of a bitch ati cards are to get working. i have never to this day been able to get 3d acceleration with an ati card.
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when i had a Radeon 9600 I got it to work in linux.
yes, it was a b**ch, lol
and i think my geforce mx4000 outperforms it :( lol but only in linux.

but i've actually seen benchmark results of linux + wine vs. windows from benchmarking programs, and the linux results were higher on most tests. there were some exceptions, but i was pretty surprised..
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its quite sad really. i think i would of actually gotten my radeon to work this one time. everything was going smoothly and i think all that was left was rebooting. but i never did dont remember why. i just popped my nvidia back in and was just fine. its just now i have windows on that machine as well so i use the radeon.
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To be honest, If playing games is one of your main concerns when picking an OS, Linux isn't for you.
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meman wrote:
To be honest, If playing games is one of your main concerns when picking an OS, Linux isn't for you.



*nods*
its true.
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there are a variety of nice free games out there for linux or better yet crossplatform. quite addicting but yeah nothing that equalls the quality of alot of these newer pc titles coming out.
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AnarchY SI wrote:
meman wrote:
To be honest, If playing games is one of your main concerns when picking an OS, Linux isn't for you.



*nods*
its true.



heh, funny one. Though one could play quite a lot of games if you fiddle around enough :)

Loki Games, AFAIK, have ports for many common games, and funny enough Quake seems to work much better on Linux (on same PC) than windows
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...and funny enough Quake seems to work much better on Linux (on same PC) than windows


what version of quake?
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Uh, Q3 :)
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That test gave me the same two distro's of linux im using now :D
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I was told to use Mandriva and Fedora Core..... Hmm, I like Suse and Ubuntu though :)
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i like suse and fedora.
ubuntu doesn't like my x800 :(

i was figuring it was Q3...i'll have to give that a try.


tom, what distro's are those?
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Mandriva and Kubuntu
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SoftDux wrote:
...and funny enough Quake seems to work much better on Linux (on same PC) than windows



mm...i'm running suse 10.1 and q3 runs for $hit on my box.
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odd.


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Mandriva and Kubuntu

oic. idky i just never really liked the feel of mandrake/mandriva...
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i concure anarchy mandrake/mandriva is icky. although mandrake was my first distro. i recently installed ubuntu and have been using it thoroughly. must say im quite pleased and impressed with its ease of use. but the partitioner on the ubuntu live cd is crap. it wouldnt recognize partitions it had just created. stupid if you ask me. had to use a debian netinstall cd to partition my HD.
also havent been able to get xgl working on ubuntu. got it working on suse but i didnt like suse's yast. talk about SLOW.
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mm...i had suse 9.1 for my first distro. last one before novell took over, lol. the speed of the install hasn't increased :(
ubuntu 6.06 won't recognize my x800 so it drops me to console. and not the good console, like all of the text wraps around the screen instead of breaking for lines. its rather impossible.
yast is slow, i'll DEFINITELY agree. but thats why smartpm works with suse ;]
however i havne't gotten my WinTV card working with MythTV yet so yea...i think i'm doing something wrong.
but i still think i prefer fedora overall.. ^_^
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*bump*

in case any people are thinking wondering.. O=)
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Did I try this before? Can't remember..

Interesting result. Debian, which is what I'm running right now, then ubuntu (yeeeuch) and kubuntu, pointless. I don't like KDE and answered that I didn't during the test..

Funny thing is.. I'm thinking of changing over to slackware.
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lol nice.
i have it downloaded.
never felt like installing it.
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Ubuntu, Debian, Kubuntu.

That's pretty fair (it's all I've used for the last few years), although tbh, after selecting "deb" as my preferred package choice, the decision must've been made easier. ;)
Nice link AnarchY.
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dyefade wrote:
...although tbh, after selecting "deb" as my preferred package choice, the decision must've been made easier. ;)
Nice link AnarchY.


lol pretty much. you should give fedora a try.. :] there's apt/synaptic for it, which i prefer because its faster than yumex. although i do prefer the menu's in suse 10.2..
thanks tho :] i thought so.


i just retook the test and it told me:
kubuntu, ubuntu, debian, fedora, mandriva.
i've tried the newest versions of k/ubuntu & fedora, for some reason mandriva didn't want to work :( and debian is just too damn large. lol i downloaded like 16 CD's and 2 DVD's (of dif versions) and swore that off rather rapidly :] thats just ridiculous, lol
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I did download FC6 recently, but it failed the MD5 check and wouldn't install - at the time I didn't have time to mess about, and went back to install Ubuntu. I intend to try Fedora in the future though.

The thing is, I'm at a stage now where I don't use Linux to mess with, it just has to work. I'm willing to go through some config/setup - but I'm not in it for the fun, or the "f%$k you M$" anymore.
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lol yea.. thats sad.
but its odd that it didn't work. i haven't had a recent burn fail installation except for when i tried using the fedora extras during the installation. but that may not have been the true issue. *shrug*
you could always try the FC7 test livecd ;)

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