Firefox displays wrong content (newbie Question ;) )

November 7th, 2006, 3:04 pm

I will appreciate if somebody can take a look to my website enter-net.ca
and give me an idea if it is possible to fix it for Firefox. It works fine with IE.
I spent some time to make this "creature".
I like it. Tried to make it simple and easy structured.
I used Office 2000.

Thanks,
Michael.

November 7th, 2006, 3:57 pm

seen your site, i think you have to edit your css.

November 7th, 2006, 5:28 pm

I never used css

November 7th, 2006, 6:25 pm

Willing to help, but uninterested in trying to guess what the precise problem is. Misplaced photo? Dead links? Unfortunate word wrap? Flu? Protein deficiency? Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanokoniosis?

By the way I've seen several people complain about how badly behaved is HTML generated from Microsoft Word. The problem I've seen before is that Word generated an alternate HTML page for (non-Microsoft) browsers that couldn't understand the proprietary Microsoft schema used by Office when it generates its HTML-ish. Other browsers got a dead image of the web page; a kind of screen shot.

Your site doesn't have this problem. I've always suspected there was some setting in Word that made it generate HTML that was less bad, but could never find it. Did you do anything special, make any preference settings, choose any non-default options, when generating the HTML from the Word document?

To fix your site of course, whatever is wrong with it, you'll almost certainly have to change by hand some of the HTML generated by Word. CSS is one of the more benign things you'll find in your website. I couldn't say whether "editing your CSS" would be the answer you're looking for.

November 8th, 2006, 5:30 am

Thank you very much for a comprehensive answer.

>Did you do anything special, make any preference settings, choose any non-default options, when generating the HTML from the Word document?

Absolutely not. I am advanced computer person but far from being webdesigner.

I would like to have answers to 2 questions that seems to be a problem.

Just to repeat in IE there are no problems at all.

In FireFOX
1. When I use English everything is fine beside one page Photos.
No background, misplaced thumnails and etc.
I no that I created it in a strange manner because I tried to fit thumbnails.
I realise that it will be smarter to remove thumbnails and put Pic1,2,3,4.
Since I don't have appropriate knowledge how to do this right.
Sure for a pro it's matter of couple of minutes.

2. This is interesting.
In IE
When you come to my index.html click Bienvenue--> Profile it shows French
version of the page
http://enter-net.ca/FR/Profile.htm

All other link from Bienvenue go to http://enter-net.ca/FR/... (FR folder)

In FireFOX

When you click Bienvenue (very first page) it brings you to
http://enter-net.ca/FR%5Cmain%20page.htm

and than if you click Profile it brings you to
http://enter-net.ca/Profile.htm

Why happens with my French folder?

I will apprecciate your time if you can give me an idea why it happens.

The simplest for me will be just to place on my first page:

Web site is optimized for IE

Thanks again.
Regards.
Michael.

November 8th, 2006, 11:04 am

mla wrote:

The simplest for me will be just to place on my first page:
Web site is optimized for IE

I like it! It would be especially slick if you could do it in some way that the optimization warning looks terrifically clumsy in all other browsers.

mla wrote:

Absolutely not. I am advanced computer person but far from being webdesigner.

Darn. I thought perhaps you knew some important Word secret.

mla wrote:

1. When I use English everything is fine beside one page Photos. No background, misplaced thumnails and etc.

2. This is interesting. In IE When you come to my index.html click Bienvenue--> Profil...

Both problems have the same cause. Notice the URL for the Bienvenue link contains a backslash:

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http://enter-net.ca/FR\main page.htm

Simply swap it for a real slash. Backslashes in URLs are a Microsoft-ism. A browser not beholden to Windows would know that the backslash is a perfectly legitimate filename character on unix systems. Firefox can accommodate backslashes the way IE wants to some degree, but it can't pretend they're first-class path separators the way IE can.

While we're here, is there some way to make Word use HTML character entities for high-bit ASCII characters? I haven't tried it but I suspect your French pages are full of bad characters on any machine but a Windows box using a Latin character set. It's much more compatible to use, for example, é to display an e with an acute accent, than to embed the non-standard character directly. I imagine the only practical way for you to accomplish this translation would be to find some preference to flip in Word's HTML generation.

November 8th, 2006, 12:44 pm

Hi Grey,
I appreciate your professional answer and patience.
I started fixing... There are immediate result. Main link is working fine (from Bienvenue).
English Photo link is fine. I will fix links from French page.

Thanks,
Michael.

November 8th, 2006, 4:09 pm

My site is completly fixed and nicely works from IE and FF.
Absolutely no problem with French pages.
The issue was Wind-ish \ ))

I did my site page by page, manualy without any tool.
I started with Front Page but had some troubles and decided to make it in
slow but sure way.

Could you please advice What HTML editor may help me to edit my site and to see a structure. Or it's impossible since it was created page by page?

Thanks for your time.
Michael.

November 9th, 2006, 10:57 am

Glad to hear you won't need the "optimized for IE" tag after all.

The source of your web pages makes it look like you used Microsoft Word to build them. Maybe I don't understand:

mla wrote:

What HTML editor may help me to edit my site and to see a structure. Or it's impossible since it was created page by page?

Are you looking for something that keeps track of the structure of your entire site, more than you're looking for something that edits individual pages?

Personally I just use a text editor and FTP, so I don't have any experience with automated maintenance. You may have better luck asking this question under a new topic, because it seems no one is answering.

Meanwhile I'll point out an earlier thread discussing HTML editors. It's a worthwhile read, though I must disagree with Axe's positive opinion of FrontPage. I've seen too many clumsily constructed web pages that were full of IE-specific constructs, written in FrontPage. I've used Dreamweaver and liked it. I have to mention Nvu as worth looking at. And heck, there's a pretty good article on HTML editors in Wikipedia.

November 9th, 2006, 1:04 pm

Thank you very much.