Fonts... Why arent more supported?

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Post April 22nd, 2004, 9:36 am

I must have missed something so please correct me. Why is is that you cant get more than 4-5 fonts for writing on the web?
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Post April 22nd, 2004, 9:36 am

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Post April 22nd, 2004, 10:01 am

That's just the way it is right now. Maybe in the future more will be supported across platforms. Maybe not. This is quoted from musik, when he originally posted it in this thread...

musik wrote:
As far as standard text fonts go here is a list you can go by:

Win95+ Standard Fonts

Arial
Courier New
Marlett
Modern
Symbol
Times New Roman
Wingdings

Mac Standard Fonts

Avant Garde
Bookman
Courier
Helvetica
Helvetica Narrow
New Century Schoolbook
Palatino
Symbol
Times
Zapf Chancery
Zapf Dingbats

Microsoft Fonts on the Web (for Mac, Win3.x/95/NT)

Arial
Arial Black
Comic Sans MS
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana

So, use the above for your "guide".
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Post April 22nd, 2004, 10:48 am

Becuase there's only a small set of fonts that are installed as standard on a given windows operating system, as Nunzio pointed out...

You can use ANY font you want. If you've got 500 fonts installed on your system, you can use all 500 fonts in your page, and anybody who has those fonts installed on their system can use them.

You can embed specific fonts into pages though, just hit google and search for WEFT.
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Post April 23rd, 2004, 3:55 am

Yeah I viewed one website in my lifetime that had the cool designer font "small fonts" and looked cool on my PC – I was shocked they used it cos I bet I would be the only one who could see that font.

The main problem IMO is that if a cool font like Humanist or Cafe type fonts become standard they will no longer be cool :?

For now there is nothing wrong with Verdana (Tahoma for small bold) as this makes many webpages easy to read.
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Post April 26th, 2004, 8:14 am

You could also let the font authotr know you want to use it and have people download it immediatley apon entering your site. Put a splash page up with 2 links.....one says something like "Download XFont and enter the cool site" and the other says "Enter with plain text." Then when the user clicks on the first link they get the start download screen and do all of that and then they can see it.

Just a thought...
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Post April 26th, 2004, 8:21 am

Truce - thats unneccessary with an embedded font - the user downloads it automatically, just like a picture embedded in the page.

Plus, many people ignore anything that says download and install from the internet. :)
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Post April 26th, 2004, 8:33 am

So embedding the font doesnt even prompt the user before downloading or installing the font?
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Post April 26th, 2004, 8:45 am

...embed the font? So you have to store the font on your webspace and link to it? Fonts are large in file size are they not?
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Post April 26th, 2004, 10:02 am

Scroll up, to where I said "just hit google and search for WEFT" :)
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Post April 26th, 2004, 10:33 am

fonts aren't "HUGE"
well
not to download anyway (no idea about embedding)
but to download they are only a few kb
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Post April 26th, 2004, 10:49 am

You don't have to install the font just to view it.....
You have to install it to use it in a program like word

think of it like a set of images to download

BTW I just downloaded this font:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/demos/1/PIE0.eot
Which is all of 5kB in size

I found it by following axe's advice :)
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Post April 26th, 2004, 1:37 pm

Nunzio390 wrote:
...This is quoted from musik, when he originally posted it in...


I believe musik is a lady, not a gent :-]


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Post April 26th, 2004, 3:01 pm

rtm223 wrote:
Which is all of 5kB in size

I found it by following axe's advice :)


Yeah, for a Micro$oft product WEFT is pretty neat. It only officially supports IE (I don't know if other browsers are capable of reading the embeded font file formats - I haven't checked), but when you save it out, it only saves out the characters used in your page (or at least, that's how it is by default)...

This means that each time you edit it, if you use a character you've not used before, you'll have to export the font file out again, but you can set it to add the extra characters if you need it to.

But at leat you can elimiate characters your page may never use... like #, *, %, all the funny accented characters, fractions symbols, etc. So that cuts the file size down a lot in the exported font file.
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Post April 26th, 2004, 7:44 pm

Isn't it also only supported in IE 5.5+ ?
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Post April 26th, 2004, 8:10 pm

I don't know, but if anybody's running older than 5.5 they need to upgrade anyways.
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